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#126
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It's fine...to say what you want ..grinding and long hours don't make me a good player nor do my stats but I state them to say I have experience and time in the game more so then most...and that maybe I have noticed something alot of the theories i'v read fall apart with my high lvl stats ... or just don't add up... if you would like to join me to test anything using logic and a scientific method of reasonable deduction...we can do that... and many who play with me tend to see my point... say what you will bUT alot of ppl learn and benefit from my advice... and regardless of the negativity I get from this forum the positive feed back I get in game far out wieght and eclipse any negativity that is spat at me on these forums.... I love to see ppl grow and evolve and just knowing that I had a slight or major part in that makes me very happy... so I'll keep on posting grinding climbing and improving ....^^ and I hope you all will join me for the journy... and it would be nice if bio ware put some definitive stats out so we can stop the guessing game as it were

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It's fine...to say what you want ..grinding and long hours don't make me a good player nor do my stats but I state them to say I have experience and time in the game more so then most...and that maybe I have noticed something alot of the theories i'v read fall apart with my high lvl stats ... or just don't add up... if you would like to join me to test anything using logic and a scientific method of reasonable deduction...we can do that... and many who play with me tend to see my point... say what you will bUT alot of ppl learn and benefit from my advice... and regardless of the negativity I get from this forum the positive feed back I get in game far out wieght and eclipse any negativity that is spat at me on these forums.... I love to see ppl grow and evolve and just knowing that I had a slight or major part in that makes me very happy... so I'll keep on posting grinding climbing and improving ....^^ and I hope you all will join me for the journy... and it would be nice if bio ware put some definitive stats out so we can stop the guessing game as it were

 

Way to avoid answering the question. I wonder why?



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It's fine...to say what you want ..grinding and long hours don't make me a good player nor do my stats but I state them to say I have experience and time in the game more so then most...and that maybe I have noticed something alot of the theories i'v read fall apart with my high lvl stats ... or just don't add up... if you would like to join me to test anything using logic and a scientific method of reasonable deduction...we can do that... and many who play with me tend to see my point... say what you will bUT alot of ppl learn and benefit from my advice... and regardless of the negativity I get from this forum the positive feed back I get in game far out wieght and eclipse any negativity that is spat at me on these forums.... I love to see ppl grow and evolve and just knowing that I had a slight or major part in that makes me very happy... so I'll keep on posting grinding climbing and improving ....^^ and I hope you all will join me for the journy... and it would be nice if bio ware put some definitive stats out so we can stop the guessing game as it were

I don't think anyone here is disputing the method. Perhaps, it has to do with the way you present said info. I'm not going to lie, some of your comments were over 9000 on the elitist dbag scale( not saying you are but, this is BSN where people feed on the tears of others. And some of your comments were like putting a bullseye on you ).
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Way to avoid answering the question. I wonder why?

 

Yeah, he just straight up ignored what I said.



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I grab chest when the party seems interested in them.

I will run strait past if party doesn't seem interested.

A pot on perilous yields almost as much gold that a routine chest does though.

Food for thought.

F u grammar police... I have a buzz and auto spell
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I don´t want playing a game becomes a work.


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#132
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So... is it any fun, Medallian?



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The only thing I find offensive about this guide is that you self-titled yourself "Father of Speedrun" without kissing my ring first. Noone becomes a made-man in DAMP without my blessing.  :lol: 

Here's where you went wrong:
1. When speaking on a topic that makes you sound like an elitist use humor.
2. You always have to account for how that applies to noobies as well. They won't understand if they cannot duplicate it to see the result or have a good understanding why it is done.

3. Don't stick to only one avenue. You have to cover multiple bases to explain your point(s) (i.e. not just discussing Perilous).

The Truth of Why People Skip Chests:
1.  Survival - If you are under-equipped particular to your Level/Prestige/Gear combination vs the Difficulty then it's a good idea to forgo possible Boss Rooms and loot the safe rooms only.

 

2. Chickenish - This mostly applies to Perilous players, but can apply to anyone who is intentionally playing above their difficulty. They are scared of getting wiped by a chest boss. This is why many loot vases first before opening chests or outright skip them.

 

3. The mathematics - Doing too much of any one thing will negatively impact another. Running thru and skipping all chests and vases will net you less gold/hr same as looting too many vases/boss rooms. I find the Run-N-Gun most effective. Hitting all safe rooms, looting visible vases and splitting the party if they are strong enough (2 hit the spawns and 2 take out a treasure room). It works best for Routine and Threatening. It does NOT work for noobie teams or Perilous (not with an under-equipped team at least). Noobies can use a run-n-gun strategy but what they lack is map knowledge.

 

What SRs have failed to provide is tactics on HOW to SR and which rooms to hit. There's no reason to dispute if SR is more effective anymore (or as some originally tried to say, "ineffective"), nor if it's possible to successfully do with Pugs vs private matches. That's been debunked for the most part. If you want to "convince" people of your tactics then produce videos or documentation showing how it works (i.e. safe rooms on each map, how to alternate run-aheads, the advantage of ranged vs melee).


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Shadohz,pls



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Shadohz,pls

lolwut? I'm just trying to help the guy/girl be a better guide-writing rather than doing an op-ed. Or are you saying don't be encouraging Medallion to start making vids and doing SR threads?



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lolwut? I'm just trying to help the guy/girl be a better guide-writing rather than doing an op-ed.

I understand,but you are shouting into the wind.



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I understand,but you are shouting into the wind.

That may be so. I don't know Med well enough to know if he's willing to accept criticism or feedback. However personally attacking an author and derailing his/her thread for a POV not related to their post is just as counter-productive. I'm all for derailing a thread to inject humor. It is the BSN way afterall. If the mere presence of someone's avater or username makes a person butthurt, then don't respond to their post unless you plan on sticking to the topic.

 

edit: I'm referring to people in general, not you personally.


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That may be so. I don't know Med well enough to know if he's willing to accept criticism or feedback. However personally attacking an author and derailing his/her thread for a POV not related to their post is just as counter-productive. I'm all for derailing a thread to inject humor. It is the BSN way afterall. If the mere presence of someone's avater or username makes a person butthurt, then don't respond to their post unless you plan on sticking to the topic.

 

edit: I'm referring to people in general, not you personally.

No worries.I am on BSN for a while,so know what could expect from it :lol:



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In all fairness, you don't need an account to read the forums. But still, I think we have a Medallian alt here.

 

Do you think he has time for that between speed runs?

 

They hate you cos they ain't you medallion. lol.

 

Not hate. "Think is dim and silly."

 


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lol not even you can.loom the name up on xb1 he is a recent friend some one who plays with me...so it's ok for you guys to group bash me but not ok for some one to defend me further more the thought of some one defending me is so outrageous to you...you preclaim it a medallian alt.... rofl...wow..just wow

 

 

Looming someone's name on Xb1 would take forever. You'd have to buy memberships for all the wool, so it would cost a fortune, too. And "proclaim" does not mean "I think" (the words he actually used.) And no one used the word "outrageous," but I'm starting to think it is, indeed, the right word for this situation.


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Well as Kat Williams would say if you don't have haters your not doing it right lol..... let em hate...haters make me...and motivate me...

Lol ..

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Lol @ anyone over 15 using "haters" non-ironically.


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Well as Kat Williams would say if you don't have haters your not doing it right lol..... let em hate...haters make me...and motivate me...

 

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#145
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Dali had a pet Ocelot?  Why can't I have nice things like that?



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Play nice guys. I'd hate to see any of you get put in the same time-out chair PF got. js


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I feel like the time for intervention was 5 pages ago. It's lord of the flies and we have the conch.


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Play nice guys. I'd hate to see any of you get put in the same time-out chair PF got. js

 

I don't see anyone making a video criticising biower employees here....



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Moment of truth! Here they come! Confess!

 

I confess that I haven't played DAMP in the last week. I wouldn't say, I've retired - you know me, guys: If I retired, I would go in a super blaze.


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Moment of truth! Here they come! Confess!
 
I confess that I haven't played DAMP in the last week. I wouldn't say, I've retired - you know me, guys: If I retired, I would go in a super blaze.


I see what you did there...