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Dear BioWare, Please don't weaken Tevinter. Yours Truly, Bruce Wayne


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#26
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Both are true, if simplified, and you didn't contradict anything I said. Rome was never able to govern Germania and their northward expansion was halted. That effectively halted their eastward expansion, since they could never be secure on their land routes to the east, and always had to play back-and-forth between incursions on the northern and eastern borders. If anything, you could say that Germany was conquered culturally by Christianization and from back door assimilation through the Carolignians.

Byzantium was powerful, but limited. It was never able to live up to its occasional bursts of expansionist ambitions. Its history can be called one long retreat, and it endured only because of Constantinople's walls. In that it is much like Tevinter, it seems, since the same is said of Minrathous.

I don't want to see Tevinter ended. That would be bad for southern Thedas, and if Mehmet is the Qun then it would be really, really bad. But, I'd like to see it continue to be humbled, for its own good and that of its neighbors.

It's nice having two of Thedas's scariest powers facing off against each other, isn't it? :)

I would love to see a Tevinter/Qunari battle in action, however. Not like Iron Bull's mission, but a full-scale naval conflict. Mages, dreadnoughts, marines, funny hats and doggie paddling Qunari.

I don't see any way for a Dragon Age game to take place in Tevinter without getting much darker than Inquisition was without changing Tevinter itself, however. That's not a bad thing, though. DA does dark and complex very well.



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Tevinter is not Kirkwall.

Of course not kirkwall had more sane mages and less blood magic ;)



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Tevinter will burn. Burn!
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I'm afraid. Tevinter's portrayal has been exceptionally ham-fisted throughout the franchise. Bioware knows a lot of people want to destroy them. I just hope they won't do their setting the great disservice of having them "brought to justice" by the equally hypocritical and scummy-ass Orlesians or Qunari.


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"Expansionist empire?" Tevinter is an echo of what it was. A monument to past glories where the tour guide insists that it can be great again, if it weren't for the better museums down the street. There's no comparison to Rome, unless you're talking about modern-day Rome.


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I'm afraid. Tevinter's portrayal has been exceptionally ham-fisted throughout the franchise. Bioware knows a lot of people want to destroy them. I just hope they won't do their setting the great disservice of having them "brought to justice" by the equally hypocritical and scummy-ass Orlesians or Qunari.

Absolutely. I would like to see Tevinter changed at least to the point that it loses its "Evil Empire" status, but if the decision is "Tevinter as it is" or "the Qunari as they are", I know who I'd support.



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I hope so to OP Tevinter is my favorite nation in Thedas and I like them just the way they are.



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I agree, but only because I want to be the one who weakens Tevinter myself. Wah ha hah ha!



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Lost glory...do you mean the part involving the magical secrets/techniques that the Tevinter apparently scavenged from the elves who self-destructed? Because my aspiration in life is to scavenge like a vulture! *snerk* Whatever they are now, they are nothing like the magisters of old.

The Romans had their good points and their bad ones - and similarly, if we head off to Tevinter, I'm going to expect to see both the good and the bad. I don't really believe that Tevinter is particularly resurgent, personally, and even if there's some sort of hypothetical spike in power, we all know what eventually happens to expansionist empires that can't control all their territory and can't bear the financial/economic costs involved in maintaining far-flung borders. *points at the fall of the Roman Empire*

Then there's the entrenched corruption and infighting in the Magisterium, all of which sounds like more trouble than dealing with either the Roman Senate or the worst of the Roman emperors was. Additionally, I think Tevinter will eventually need to go through some level of reform. If a large portion of your citizenry - like the people who aren't mages - eventually decides to rise up after being oppressed or after seeing too many excesses and abuses of power, well, good luck with quashing repeated rebellions and dealing with the qunari at the same time.

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and arent abominations supossed to be rare lol

Do you not know how and why Kirkwall was made? It did not just turn crazy on it's own...It was made that way.



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I'm afraid. Tevinter's portrayal has been exceptionally ham-fisted throughout the franchise. Bioware knows a lot of people want to destroy them. I just hope they won't do their setting the great disservice of having them "brought to justice" by the equally hypocritical and scummy-ass Orlesians or Qunari.

*Points to Dorian.

 

Please say that again?



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*Points to Dorian.

 

Please say that again?

 

Yes, that one guy, The Redeemer, whose job isn't so much to offer a balanced perspective but to stand around and say "Yeah, Tevinter is pretty ****ty, I wish it wasn't so ****ty. Cool architecture, though".


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Do you not know how and why Kirkwall was made? It did not just turn crazy on it's own...It was made that way.

no i forgot remind me bad plot gameplay-lore breaks idk

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I would help the Qunari Destroy Tevinter, then team up with Ferelden to take it back from Orlais.

Sadly bioware reinvented the qunari yet again. Gone are the arishoks of old, now they're all so... pretty. With big blue eyes and facial hair.

The qunari whose religion once thought women are for cooking are gone. Every culture in DA is the same now. Too bad too, the conversations with Sten and the Arishok were awesome. It was a different world.

I miss the horns, armor, eyes, body paints from DA2. Those Quanri were frigthening. You can't come anywhere close in the cc.


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I'm expecting the streets to be littered with pointy-hooded wizards and rickshaws drawn by elven slaves.

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Yes, that one guy, The Redeemer, whose job isn't so much to offer a balanced perspective but to stand around and say "Yeah, Tevinter is pretty ****ty, I wish it wasn't so ****ty. Cool architecture, though".

Their's more.

*points to Maevaris.



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no i forgot remind me bad plot gameplay-lore breaks idk

The city was built on top of one of the unbounded demons...The one that taught everyone blood magic to the tevintor mages of old. And the city was made as a slave city just to kill people in mass for blood magic spells. The veil is naturally weak and was weaken more by the mages who founded the city. Yep , it was made crazy.



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I don't think 'ruthlessly efficient' means what you think it means.

 

Despite what television programs depict, pissing off everyone around you is not 'ruthlessly efficient.' or 'pragmatic.' It's generally much more the mark of someone who is very, very stupid.



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I don't think 'ruthlessly efficient' means what you think it means.

 

Despite what television programs depict, pissing off everyone around you is not 'ruthlessly efficient.' or 'pragmatic.' It's generally much more the mark of someone who is very, very stupid.

*Point to the dalish elves.

They still have yet understand that from the fall of the dales. And say "We're different from Tevinter.



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If we're going to do prequels, I want the fall of Arlathan, why it fell, who brought it down, etc. Then perhaps, the rise of Tevinter, the old, Tevinter. the one before Andraste and the Chantries and all that. 



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I don't think 'ruthlessly efficient' means what you think it means.

 

Despite what television programs depict, pissing off everyone around you is not 'ruthlessly efficient.' or 'pragmatic.' It's generally much more the mark of someone who is very, very stupid.

Tevinter's legendary foreign relations department suffered a possession and following massive incineration, leading to them being replaced by a particularly drunken Altus and his squad of addled imported Fex.

It's a shame, really.

(Orlais has had a similar problem, having invaded and occupied all of their neighbors at some point.)



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Hi everyone. I noticed the thread is already derailing into long historical posts. Please keep posts game related, if the thread turns into a  history debate it will have to be locked.

 

Why?

 

Tevinter is quite obviously based on the Byzantine Empire. So it is sort of relevant. Also plenty of threads veer off topic without threats of lock down. Singling out history for lockdown threats seems like an overreaction.



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Tevinter will burn. Burn!

HERETIC!!!!!


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The absence of certain heathen is disappointing....and here I expected Cuddly Qun, and a fleet of Inflammable dreadnought. :P

 

Oh well, at least there's already enough treason and blasphemy against the Imperium. Heretic and uncultured heathen everywhere, it's gonna be awesome helping the Glorious Tevinter Imperium bringing order and civilization to barbaric lands of Southern Thedas, and not to mention drown Par Vollen in Qunari's blood. It's not even my birthday.  :D



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Who doesn't love hot man-on-man action, after all?


Nobody worth knowing, that's for sure.