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[Octarin]

.... there will be any fixes for the old gen consoles in any soon-ish upcoming patch?

 

 

 

 

Yes, yes, I know, it's been asked before and said before and discussed before, and there's a bigger thread about it around, with more than 60,000 replies so far, that noone is taking heed of and Bioware seems to be heartily hellbent on ignoring, and my thread here is redundant, and I possibly annoy everyone else who has a wonderful experience with the game, but still, I have to ask. 

 

 

 

So,

 

will there be any fixes for the old gen consoles in any soon-ish upcoming patch or not? And no, the usual "You'll just have to wait" won't do.

 

Please answer Bioware.

 

Thanks. 

[b10d1v]

Honestly the game engine is new technology that has the potential to stress the PC and high end consoles - Do you really want to stay in the past?

[Fade-Touched-in-the-head]

*stares contemplatively at his Atari 2600*

[JumboWheat01]

Honestly the game engine is new technology that has the potential to stress the PC and high end consoles - Do you really want to stay in the past?

 

Not all have a console's cost in the budget, and some have such a large number of games on their older ones that they want to/need to play, that getting a new system is pointless and silly.  So please, keep that in mind before future comments like that, thank you.

 

 

*stares contemplatively at his Atari 2600*

 

Man, I wish I could say the same.  Unfortunately, I just had to lay my poor SNES to rest.  So many fun memories there...

 

 

Now, back on topic, no, we have a HUGE thread about bugs and what-not on the "old-gen" consoles, and there hasn't been a reply on there for who knows how many posts.  And from what I've seen, calling out to developers and the like is a sure-fire way for your thread to be promptly ignored.  Try their twitter handles.  A twitter account is free, if you don't have one, and you don't need to live by it, so don't be so repulsed.

 

That said, I wouldn't mind an official note of some way shape or form about the state of "old-gen" consoles.  Until then, don't hold your breath, just play as best you can.  You did spend the coin on the game, after all.

[coldflame]

*stares contemplatively at his Atari 2600*

 

I am actually curious to find out how much is an Atari 2600 console kept in a premium condition worth nowadays?

[Shechinah]

(to Octarin) I'm not so experienced with finding information about patches but I gave it a try; http://forum.bioware...platforms-feb-4- Is this per chance what you were looking for?

[spacefiddle]

I am actually curious to find out how much is an Atari 2600 console kept in a premium condition worth nowadays?

 

Ebay says anywhere from $50 - $150.  The high end coming with extra controllers and many or most games.

[spacefiddle]

(to Octarin) I'm not so experienced with finding information about patches but I gave it a try; http://forum.bioware...platforms-feb-4- Is this per chance what you were looking for?

 

Nope, that was what we assumed would be the "Patch 3 hotfix," but Allan explained that the versioning system would get a migraine trying to keep something like a "patch 3.5" straight across all platforms, so that's 4.  The first 4 patches, to date, have not eliminated many of the major crashes and blockers that have been reported here and on the Tech Support "EA Answers" forum.

 

Patch 5 is likely to be the major update that tackles many or most of the long-standing issues, but we've as of yet no ETA on it, nor any details on what it will cover; the latter most likely being because that list of what it covers is not yet finalized.

[Average Designer]

Not everyone can afford a new console. Furthermore new consoles don't have as many games to play as the old consoles do. Right now getting a new gen console really isn't worth shelling out 350 dollars for.

 

Plus games are still being made for the last gen consoles which really states that we don't need to upgrade for a while. By then the consoles will be cheaper and people will have played all their games on the old gen and can safely upgrade to a new gen console.

[TravisTrevelyan]

They most likely will, but seeing as files are super compressed for older consoles, it may take a little longer then the rest. Plus, console patches always come after the PC ones anyway, with the next gen systems being the first to get it. 
Its just how it goes now, lets just hope that the old gen systems don't become like the PS2 and live their last few years with nothing but downgraded sports games released onto them. 

[Jeffry]

Honestly the game engine is new technology that has the potential to stress the PC and high end consoles - Do you really want to stay in the past?

 

The game shouldn't have been released on old gen consoles in the first place. But since it was and since BW promised it will run on them just fine, they should now make sure it does run just fine for everybody, not just for a lucky few.

[DarkAmaranth1966]

Be glad you aren't a PC gamer that wanted this game but had a 32 bit PC - you'd have had to buy a new computer and, one of those that will run this game cost a good bit more than a console.

[spacefiddle]

Be glad you aren't a PC gamer that wanted this game but had a 32 bit PC - you'd have had to buy a new computer and, one of those that will run this game cost a good bit more than a console.

 

Ehhhhh..... i agree with you to a point, in principle, buuuuut.... hardware, and the majority of WIndows installs out there, are 64-bit.  Outside of a few corporate entities, 32-bit environments are not common; and even those large behemoths are slowly upgrading.

 

(I'm part of a team dealing with upgrading legacy Windows Server 2003 boxes and 32-bit Win7 machines.  Win Server 2k3 support ends in July.  Fun project.  Ever reach out to 150 app owners and tell them you're scheduling the demise of their server in a few months? Don't ask.)

 

The PS3 and XB360 are also 64-bit machines, so even the previous-gen consoles the game is sold on aren't 32-bit programs... there's a point where you have to drop support for legacy hardware and OSes, and with four consoles and a PC version.... I'll be the first to point at EA when I think they're cheaping out on something, but I just can't fault them for not also supporting 32-bit systems.

[Jeffry]

Plus you can always pirate the 64 bit OS anytime, not that I would support it, but the option is there. But IMO the problem is, that computers that run 32 bit OS would not be strong enough to run DAI anyway. There is sometimes a need to upgrade the HW, while DAI doesn't look so spectacular it would warrant a new strong computer, there will be plenty of use for it in the future. AAA games will only get more HW-demanding.

[Octarin]

Yeah.. nah.

 

And if they do, chances are, it will just make the game worse.
 

 

Experience has shown that to be the case, hasn't it, lol!

[Octarin]

Yep. And a touch of bitter cynicism.

 

Well, I read Gaider's reply. How disheartening. He more or less spat on the entire community over here calling us stupid for being here. How nice.

[Joxer]

Well, I read Gaider's reply. How disheartening. He more or less spat on the entire community over here calling us stupid for being here. How nice.

What?! Where?

 

Anyway, before asking what the patch will be about, I believe the more important question is - when.

[Octarin]

What?! Where?

 

Anyway, before asking what the patch will be about, I believe the more important question is - when.

 

 

Right here. Honestly, this is what's called "burning bridges". I don't think I could be more disappointed. I actually had some hope this would all miraculously improve, they'd start talking to us, they'd start responding etc... but... 

 

http://forum.bioware...ths/?p=18591153

[FKA_Servo]

Well, I read Gaider's reply. How disheartening. He more or less spat on the entire community over here calling us stupid for being here. How nice.

 

This isn't remotely what he did.

 

And again, unless you can patch better hardware into your Xbox, I don't think a fix is forthcoming. Hopefully EA learns their lesson from this.

[Fade-Touched-in-the-head]

This isn't remotely what he did.

No, it's not, I agree. Seems like someone is reading what they want to read.

[Octarin]

This isn't remotely what he did.

 

And again, unless you can patch better hardware into your Xbox, I don't think a fix is forthcoming. Hopefully EA learns their lesson from this.

 

Actually, yes he did. Not in those exact words, but that's pure semantics. 

 

"I could see it being frustrating if you perceived the role of the forums as a way to "get a response" from the dev team about anything, whether it be a complaint or an attempt to engage the team in some kind of discussion about our future plans. That's really never been its role, but it seems you think it should be-- or at least be more active it engaging the folks who choose (for whatever reason) to hang around here? Fair enough. Personally, I'd see any kind of organized effort to engage in that discussion as too much effort for far too little gain [...]"

 

So, we choose for whatever reason to be here, and he's totally clueless as to the reason when we have been screaming our lungs out since November that OUR GAMES ARE UNPLAYABLE?!?! Really? And he can't fathom the reason we're here, at all? I mean, come on now, alright? It's not the role of the forums to get feedback to the devs but ....

 

"Mostly these forums exist for the fans to talk to each other."

 

In light of everything that's happened since November, I perceive this as another dev giving us the finger royally and officially. 

[Fade-Touched-in-the-head]

Precisely what is wrong with "Mostly these forums exist for the fans to talk to each other? That's an objective statement of fact. The feedback and suggestions section only accounts for a portion of the forum. The rest isn't about bending their ears. It's for us to get help from other players, or discuss story and character, or share fan fiction, or whatever.

Which is why he said "for whatever reason" we come here.

[Octarin]

Precisely what is wrong with "Mostly these forums exist for the fans to talk to each other? That's an objective statement of fact. The feedback and suggestions section only accounts for a portion of the forum. The rest isn't about bending their ears. It's for us to get help from other players, or discuss story and character, or share fan fiction, or whatever.

Which is why he said "for whatever reason" we come here.

 

You might wanna check the forum title sometime.