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Keep different cultures different... Keep the Qunari as Qunari. You can't tackle issues without prejudice.


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The Grey Wardens would be an exception because they can afford to recruit only the best (overlooking numerous issues with their own structure for supporting such an armed force), national armies wouldn't have that luxury.

 

And the Wardens just so happen to be mostly men. Probably just a coincidence though.


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And it is your prerogative to ask or try and reason out better explanations, gods know I won't stop you.

 

The Grey Wardens would be an exception because they can afford to recruit only the best (overlooking numerous issues with their own structure for supporting such an armed force), national armies wouldn't have that luxury.

 

The rest of your post goes into why I am disappointed in Thedas being a medieval-esque setting, it would have been much better served in post-industrial revolution  setting based on that.  (againt o ignore questions such as the average peasant's access to magical healing services which I imagine would be pretty rare due to the nature of Circles and costs involved in getting and paying there, and apostates)

 

Its not medieval realism, its medieval fantasy. As far as historic changes go, letting females into the military is relatively small



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Its not medieval realism, its medieval fantasy. As far as historic changes go, letting females into the military is relatively small

which is why I have been saying "medieval-esque"  i get that this is a fantasy world, but just completely side stepping all of these potentiall interesting cultural practices is at best irritating



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*Looks at the direction the thread has been taking*

 

Personally if women want to put themselves on the front line and be "heroic", let them, Qun or no Qun.

 

I use quotation marks because being a soldier is not heroic, it is a miserable and traumatic life, just look at most of the veterans of war, in fiction or in reality. Look at Iron Bull or at Blackwall or at Loghain.

 

Men have been disposable meat shields for the ruling class for ages now so if women want to get that same "privilege" of disposability, let them. So in some ways, I am glad the Qun has this policy of sorts. 

 

After all, fighting for, being injured for, being traumatized for, being indoctrinated for and dying for a totalitarian and oppressive regime is truly empowering... :rolleyes:


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#330
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Seeker abilities are magical in nature due to their unique training

If I were to point to an irl example, faith and confidence can easily be used to help boost morale and fighting spirit (assuming the prayer itself isn't powerful which is entirely possible in universe ex. The Littany of Adrala)

Templars derive power from lyrium, a magical substance

Reavers derive power from dragon's blood, also magical

Yeah exactly, so it's not just muscles.



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Yeah exactly, so it's not just muscles.

which is why I raise no objection to female warriors like Cassandra or a Grey Warden, I'm talking about random women in national armies that make less sense



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And the Wardens just so happen to be mostly men. Probably just a coincidence though.

Well, the Wardens being mostly men could also be due to the risks that having a female Warden could present. Mainly either during her duty or more likely durig her Calling she is captured and force fed until turned into a Broodmother. 


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which is why I raise no objection to female warriors like Cassandra or a Grey Warden, I'm talking about random women in national armies that make less sense

I don't know much about Chevaliers and random Guards, but I assume they also use potions and such.



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Well, the Wardens being mostly men could also be due to the risks that having a female Warden could present. Mainly either during her duty or more likely durig her Calling she is captured and force fed until turned into a Broodmother. 

 

If that were the reasoning you'd think they would just not recruit women at all, instead of only recruiting a few.



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I don't know much about Chevaliers and random Guards, but I assume they also use potions and such.

Chevaliers are an elite unit so it doesn't extend to them either, Guards less so, but besides Aveline (who was already a fantastic warrior) we don't see any of them who are particularly stand out iirc



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In all the dragon Age games i've played (which is three) i never once though wow the Wardens are full of men? nearly every cutscene with wardens in them had just as many females in them as men? Strange how others seem to get a different vibe to me..

 

Obviously Early DA:O had only men (if you played one of course) because they all got wiped out.. Awakening had a female at the start (she died) Corphy DLC had females, every scene had many females to me..



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I don't know much about Chevaliers and random Guards, but I assume they also use potions and such.

 

That doesnt really change anything though. Either male and female guards both use potions, and thus it has no net effect on how strong women are compared to the men, or only women use potions and they are a drain on resources so why would you hire them over men who are cheaper to maintain as a fighting force?


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In all the dragon Age games i've played (which is three) i never once though wow the Wardens are full of men? nearly every cutscene with wardens in them had just as many females in them as men? Strange how others seem to get a different vibe to me..

 

Obviously Early DA:O had only men (if you played one of course) because they all got wiped out.. Awakening had a female at the start (she died) Corphy DLC had females, every scene had many females to me..

 

Because you were actually playing the game. 



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Did this thread really get turned into a gender issue?



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Did this thread really get turned into a gender issue?

 

This is BSN, are you really surprised?



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Chevaliers are an elite unit so it doesn't extend to them either, Guards less so, but besides Aveline (who was already a fantastic warrior) we don't see any of them who are particularly stand out iirc

we don't see any random male either or I might not remember something.

 

I'm starting to lose the train of thoughts there, I started this by saying that DA army doesn't relies solely on strength which seems to stand, i'm not sure what we are talking about now.



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That doesnt really change anything though. Either male and female guards both use potions, and thus it has no net effect on how strong women are compared to the men, or only women use potions and they are a drain on resources so why would you hire them over men who are cheaper to maintain as a fighting force?

It does, you could say that men use less  potions and women use more, plus in large conflicts mages are employed.

 

I see your point about cost, thought



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we don't see any random male either or I might not remember something.

 

I'm starting to lose the train of thoughts there, I started this by saying that DA army doesn't relies solely on strength which seems to stand, i'm not sure what we are talking about now.

and I'd say that elite units such as Chevaliers and Grey Wardens have access to potions and magic and whatnot that would make them more effective, but not the rank and file of a nation army

 

though by this point I'm just listening to REM and barely even putting serious effort in this anymore



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though by this point I'm just listening to REM and barely even putting serious effort in this anymore

I need to go to bed, i can only think of pillows at this point.



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This is BSN, are you really surprised?

I'm surprised it took this many pages. Does that count? :P


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#346
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Yea, well Chevaliers and Grey Wardens have nothing on this dude :P
 

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#347
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Yea, well Chevaliers and Grey Wardens have nothing on this dude :P
 

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Nobody has anything on that dude. It took him giving one of his own blessed swords to the protagonist for said protagonist to defeat him. 



#348
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Nobody has anything on that dude. It took him giving one of his own blessed swords to the protagonist for said protagonist to defeat him. 

 

Dragon Age could use an OP villain like him :P


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#349
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Dragon Age could use an OP villain like him :P

we had a darkspawn wannabe God who was quasi-immortal and an incredibly powerful magister, and he wasn't even their top 3 best villains



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Dragon Age could use an OP villain like him :P

I would love a villain like The Black Knight as a Bioware villain. Not only is he OP, but he is also a complex character with an interesting story arc.