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Making Leliana a romance option in Inquisition


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I meant they would actually have less options then. Not just feeling like they have less options for whatever reason, when they have the same as pretty much everyone else but feel entitled to more for whatever reason. :S


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True, i'm not saying you're wrong. 
Well, at least they didn't take a route like in II where you could do almost EVERYBODY in your party. 
 



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So, i was pretty disappointed with the fact Leliana is the ONLY advisor to not be romanceable in the game. Not even a pseudo-romance like Scout Harding (which should have been a full one because come on, she's the best looking Dwarf ever). Which, leads me to think that she is the canon romance for the Warden-Commander, not Morrigan or any of the other options. 
So, it'd be pretty cool if Bioware could somehow implement, in a patch or it's own add on pack  her as a option. 
Cassandra and Josephine are alright, but there's not a lot from their characters that makes me feel a connection to them. 
Leliana also improved greatly as a character from her Origins appearance (I dunno, she acts so naive and childish that I can never bring myself to complete the romance. Morrigan may be cold hearted shrew but she seems to show more affection to the Warden in her own, special way.) 
ANYWAY
They could make it a more difficult to obtain romance for the Inquisitor. 
Add in a few more personal quests for her, like offering to track down that traitor early on while still in Haven, helping her honor the Divine's memory with her own memorial in the ruins of Lothering, then of course her already in game personal quest. Along with more dialogue and flirt options. 
She'd only be an option if: 
-She didn't romance an Origins PC, whether they died killing the Archdemon or lived 
-Choosing the right dialogue during her personal quests, and conversations (supporting her religious beliefs, or sharing them)
-Certain main storyline decisions (freeing the Mages, conscripting the Wardens, yes, imprisoning Mages, exiling Wardens, no.) 

It's obvious it won't happen, but the romances in Inquisition, for a straight male Inquisitor are EXTREMELY limited. 

But i'm not going to go in detail about that because who wants SJW's on their back over something that isn't even real. 

I don't rate Cassandra an option for romance at all as a straight male! Too Amazonian, too uptight, and overkeen  on the whipcracking thing. I prefer to get all my injuries during combat not sex

Josephine is a better option for a human mage who wants to politic, but in both cases the love talks are fragmented and occur between field trips. Why someone abandoned the idea of having friendly chats at Inquisition camps I can't imagine, but quite frankly spending 160 hours gameplay with that lot made me want to sign the pledge and just read a book alone

Why on earth does everyone keep going on about romances? Personally I think David Gaider (was he involved in this game) got fed up with writing them and ever since, the romance options have been put in just to get a response rather than any sort of serious attempt to get characters to do some in depth bonding

Leliana irrespective of the outcome of her relationship with the Grey warden in DAO should never be a romance option. She was a Chantry creature in DAO and had her own agenda and instructions unknown (but suspected of) by the Hero of Ferelden. Neither should Cassandra. Now if this was a DAO style of game then Vivienne would be a good choice to further the inquisitor's political career, or even the Empress Celine, or maybe Duke Caspar's sister if you could stay alive long enough to enjoy the physical benefits.

Now the Witcher handles this sort of thing in a much better way. As well as having a long term romance option, it also has brothels and other passing interests scattered around which the PC can make frequent use of after a decent bout of bloodletting 



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No.


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download.jpgthere should be only one romance in this game
(there was supposed to be the Nigel Thornberry character here but yeah, it decided to not link it)
but really, the general view is no, and I get that 
still made a halfway decent debate though, when some actually debated it. download.jpg



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So, i was pretty disappointed with the fact Leliana is the ONLY advisor to not be romanceable in the game. Not even a pseudo-romance like Scout Harding (which should have been a full one because come on, she's the best looking Dwarf ever). Which, leads me to think that she is the canon romance for the Warden-Commander, not Morrigan or any of the other options. 
So, it'd be pretty cool if Bioware could somehow implement, in a patch or it's own add on pack  her as a option. 
Cassandra and Josephine are alright, but there's not a lot from their characters that makes me feel a connection to them. 
Leliana also improved greatly as a character from her Origins appearance (I dunno, she acts so naive and childish that I can never bring myself to complete the romance. Morrigan may be cold hearted shrew but she seems to show more affection to the Warden in her own, special way.) 
ANYWAY
They could make it a more difficult to obtain romance for the Inquisitor. 
Add in a few more personal quests for her, like offering to track down that traitor early on while still in Haven, helping her honor the Divine's memory with her own memorial in the ruins of Lothering, then of course her already in game personal quest. Along with more dialogue and flirt options. 
She'd only be an option if: 
-She didn't romance an Origins PC, whether they died killing the Archdemon or lived 
-Choosing the right dialogue during her personal quests, and conversations (supporting her religious beliefs, or sharing them)
-Certain main storyline decisions (freeing the Mages, conscripting the Wardens, yes, imprisoning Mages, exiling Wardens, no.) 

It's obvious it won't happen, but the romances in Inquisition, for a straight male Inquisitor are EXTREMELY limited. 

But i'm not going to go in detail about that because who wants SJW's on their back over something that isn't even real. 

That is pretty true that the options are a tad bit lacking, but instead of having Leliana as an option, they should have had other options like Scout Harding.



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Now the Witcher handles this sort of thing in a much better way. As well as having a long term romance option, it also has brothels and other passing interests scattered around which the PC can make frequent use of after a decent bout of bloodletting

Suggesting that a brothel is an acceptable alternative to a romance option is like suggesting that a Big Mac is a suitable replacement for a USDA prime grade porterhouse steak.

The players who clamor for more romance options, generally speaking, do so because they want to play out more love stories. Love stories. Not simply (cue music) bow-chicky-chicky-chicky-bow-bow! (fade to black).

Having said, I think Leliana is a terrible choice for reasons that have already been enumerated by others.
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I do not like Cassandra or Josephine, but it's not because they are ugly. Cassandra is OK, I liked her look better in DA2, and in the small cameo she played in another game (can't remember name but she was young), her portrait is pretty though for the ptarrot card.

 

Josephine was just not my type at all..

 

BUT I WOULD NEVER be okay with them making leliana a romance option. It just doesn't fit in DAI, let her romance stay in DAO. Even though I enjoy her personality (the darker one), and her appearance, I don't agree with her being an option because the writers did not make it an option for HoF reasons or what have they.



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And, finally, they've already stated that there will be no companions or romances added via DLC, so it's all a moo point. Like a cow's opinion......


A Friends reference on a DA forum?....
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Cassandra, to me, is "stealth-sexy" in that she's not sexy in a way that's immediately obvious. It just kind of creeps up on you and takes you by surprise.

Once I found out how soft she was on the inside then I suddenly found her harder physical traits to be incredibly sexy. The scar. The cute angry face she has on all the time where she looks as though she might chop my head off at any moment. I just fell in love with her.

And I love an honest woman. Cassandra is nothing if not bluntly honest.
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Cassandra, to me, is "stealth-sexy" in that she's not sexy in a way that's immediately obvious. It just kind of creeps up on you and takes you by surprise.

Once I found out how soft she was on the inside then I suddenly found her harder physical traits to be incredibly sexy. The scar. The cute angry face she has on all the time where she looks as though she might chop my head off at any moment. I just fell in love with her.

And I love an honest woman. Cassandra is nothing if not bluntly honest.

 

For me, I didn't like the cuter softer side. It was a major let down. They used this trope with a character I enjoyed from DA2.

 

Aveline is more of my type.



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I do not like Cassandra or Josephine, but it's not because they are ugly. Cassandra is OK, I liked her look better in DA2, and in the small cameo she played in another game (can't remember name but she was young), her portrait is pretty though for the ptarrot card.
 
Josephine was just not my type at all..
 
BUT I WOULD NEVER be okay with them making leliana a romance option. It just doesn't fit in DAI, let her romance stay in DAO. Even though I enjoy her personality (the darker one), and her appearance, I don't agree with her being an option because the writers did not make it an option for HoF reasons or what have they.


To me, it makes sense that Lel isn't a romance option... on both sides of the coin.

E.g If you romanced her in Origins, she's still in love with the Warden (regardless of whether he or she lived or died, etc)

On the other side: she probably got screwed, majorly, leaving her bitter. (Especially if she was stabbed and "killed").. which would drive anybody to bitterness, and make a person not want to trust anybody ever again, leaving very little room for love and romance.

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Am I having serious deja-vu with this or has someone posted identical/very similar thread before?



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It's obvious it won't happen, but the romances in Inquisition, for a straight male Inquisitor are EXTREMELY limited. 

But i'm not going to go in detail about that because who wants SJW's on their back over something that isn't even real. 

I am all for + romances for straights males(straight females already have everything except only dwarf male for dwarf female)

 

But never for bard and Chantry spy Lelianna or bard Brialla romances, never as with Isabella and others like them, especially for Lelianna, may she rot in grave with others as she deserve.

 

Would like a new female non-human, non-andrastian companion, advisor/agent who would be a romance option, in dlc for DAI of in DA4

 

Someone who have personality and character  what would be more like female version of Solas, or someone like Vellana or Morrigan, or Merril, or Mithris...and it would be good if they would have some from Dagna.

 

A person who is like study and learning, who is not afraid magic, using "evil" magic, who is fun-sarcastic-trickster(dark and sometimes have a cruel humor),

 

Who is pro-elven(pro-nonhumans), pro-mages, anti-Orlais, anti-Orlais Chantry, anti-templars, anti-Qunari person

 

Who will not romance everyone and have her preferences(human templar? =hell no), will not be effected by presents like in DAO  and can even smash us if we do something what she will not approve and leave us, person who would be independent and would stand for what she is beliefs

 

Someone like apostage Dalish mage or Laetan Magister from Tevinter or even ancient elven guardian from other temples of Elven Creators like Abelas or Solas

 

The one of the main points of this, that we do not have representations of some groups, factions and our Inquittion alliances in our party

 

Many our companions as Sera and Cole, Blackwall are more suited to be agents at least but not a main circle of our organization and "shield brothers" of our leader-Inquisitior who would be and fight with him..they are noone and not represent anyone except themselfs

 

We do not have companions and advisors who will represent rebels mages, dalish, city elfs rebellions, Orzammar dwarves, non-andrastian barbarians like Avvars/Chasinds,  Tevinters(Dorian is not), Nevarrans(Cassandra is not), free marshes and fereldens forces and a grey wardens

 

Even Iron Bull is not a real Tal vashot and just another Qunari spy who can become one in the end..he represent just a small "army" of mercenaries and we can or can not have a Qunari support

 

And yeah, we have a huge lack of females, and non-human females in our party



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They're not going to make a past romance a romance again. It would be a complete waste of time and effort that would be better spent somewhere else. 

 

If she romanced the HoF she is taken and loyal, if she didn't she isn't interested in romance anymore. 

 

 

 

You have just as many options as you ever had

 

^ This.

Why should Leliana cheat on the Warden? Why should Fenris cheat on Hawke? Same goes for Morrigan, Zevran, Anders and all the other companions who were a romance option. They won't ever be romanceable again. At least, not with new PCs who are not the original partner they were meant to fall in love.

But it's our fault, we shouldn't feed the troll.



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Am I having serious deja-vu with this or has someone posted identical/very similar thread before?


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^ This.

Why should Leliana cheat on the Warden? Why should Fenris cheat on Hawke? Same goes for Morrigan, Zevran, Anders and all the other companions who were a romance option. They won't ever be romanceable again. At least, not with new PCs who are not the original partner they were meant to fall in love.

But it's our fault, we shouldn't feed the troll.

 

Personally I think it's likely that Leliana would have already broke up with Warden. Relationship that lasts over 10 years? Not very normal in my mind :P



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Personally I think it's likely that Leliana would have already broke up with Warden. Relationship that lasts over 10 years? Not very normal in my mind :P


Little pessimistic, don't you think? It's evidently not strange in Leliana's mind.
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Personally I think it's likely that Leliana would have already broke up with Warden. Relationship that lasts over 10 years? Not very normal in my mind :P

 

THEIR LOVE IS ETERNAL AND PERFECT

 

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THEIR LOVE IS ETERNAL AND PERFECT

 

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Yes eternal love and miss right, that mushy stuff.



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Personally I think it's likely that Leliana would have already broke up with Warden. Relationship that lasts over 10 years? Not very normal in my mind :P


On the flip side I think that wouldn't be normal. Just play with an ultimate sacrifice/Leliana romance playthrough. The Warden's death completely ruined her, to the point where she can still hardly speak about it ten years later without sounding like she's going to break down right there. The Warden meant a lot to her, probably more than anyone ever has. Switching over to a living Warden and getting a 'Meh.' would be completely silly.
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We have as many options as before, straight dudes.

 

I'd argue the variety is.. strikingly too similar. But other than that, anyone saying we have less options (by number) shouldn re-evaluate their stance by looking at DAO and DA2


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It's hard for me not to read Cassandra's obsession with romance novels to the point of actually urging the Inquisitor to command Varric to write another book as meta-commentary on fan demands for more romance.

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Personally I think it's likely that Leliana would have already broke up with Warden. Relationship that lasts over 10 years? Not very normal in my mind :P


Leliana's still very much invested in the Warden if they romanced her. Besides, what's wrong with a long lasting relationship? Plenty of people have made that work.
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