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[DeckardWasAReplicant]

Those of you that really understand the draft and free agency, please speak up. This all looks pretty arcane to some of us, including me...

What do you want to know?

[Katiefrost]

Lets talk QBs. What is your guys top 5 in the NFL right now?
 
1.Tom Brady the best I have ever seen play(it hurt so much for me to say this)
2.Aaron Rodgers(also hurts for me to say this)
3.Peyton Manning(still unbelievably good at the line)
4.Andrew Luck (does more with less)
5. Russell Wilson

I believe you're underestimating Russell Wilson, IMHO. And remember, if age hasn't caught up to some of the older QBs yet, remember that it will at some point.

[Dermain]

I believe you're underestimating Russell Wilson, IMHO. And remember, if age hasn't caught up to some of the older QBs yet, remember that it will at some point.

 

I believe you may be slightly biased about that... 

[Katiefrost]

What do you want to know?

Could you go into detail about how the rounds work and how teams sometimes trade their turns to pick with other teams? I'll read the answer tomorrow, I've got to log off now. Thanks...

[DeckardWasAReplicant]

I believe you're underestimating Russell Wilson, IMHO. And remember, if age hasn't caught up to some of the older QBs yet, remember that it will at some point.

Russell Wilson is good but he is playing with a great RB and a great Defense. And Manning and Brady are older but I would take them over almost anyone

 

Could you go into detail about how the rounds work and how teams sometimes trade their turns to pick with other teams? I'll read the answer tomorrow, I've got to log off now. Thanks...

The rounds work like this, Each team gets a draft spot based on how they finished the season, the worst gets the #1 pick and the SB winner gets the last pick. Teams trade picks because they want a player or want more picks. Lets say the Seahawks know Lynch isnt coming back and they have a RB they want to pick, but are scared he will get picked before they have a chance to pick him, well they might want to move up in the draft and take him with trading more of their picks or players. And it also works the other way around. If there isnt anyone mind blowing to a team at their pick number they might want to trade down and get more picks to fill more of their needs.

[L. Han]

I don't want to interrupt your passion for the Superbowl, but isn't it a bit early to talk about the next one?

[themikefest]

No. Its never too early to talk about the Superbowl

 

 

 

Russell Wilson about the interception

http://espn.go.com/n...ix-interception

[Katiefrost]

The rounds work like this, Each team gets a draft spot based on how they finished the season, the worst gets the #1 pick and the SB winner gets the last pick. Teams trade picks because they want a player or want more picks. Lets say the Seahawks know Lynch isnt coming back and they have a RB they want to pick, but are scared he will get picked before they have a chance to pick him, well they might want to move up in the draft and take him with trading more of their picks or players. And it also works the other way around. If there isnt anyone mind blowing to a team at their pick number they might want to trade down and get more picks to fill more of their needs.

I understood this much, I think. I guess the trick is keeping track of who is trading what round picks and how many years of said picks to whom and who are they trading them for...

[Dermain]

No. Its never too early to talk about the Superbowl

 

 

 

Russell Wilson about the interception

http://espn.go.com/n...ix-interception

 

At least he didn't talk about the call like every other Monday morning coach with hindsight bias... 

 

It's also unfortunate that he has to deal with the pressure of being the quarterback that lost the Superbowl.

 

Wonder if he'll go into therapy for it...

[themikefest]

Pete Carroll talks about rumors of Marshawn Lynch retiring

http://espn.go.com/n...-marshawn-lynch

[Katiefrost]

Looks like it may finally happen for rugby star Jarryd Hayne:
http://www.nfl.com/n...ith-combine-rbs
But the Detroit Lions? Ugh. I'll interested to see how this goes. This would have happen sooner except for immigration red tape, so I've heard.

[Katiefrost]

21 takeaways from the 2015 NFL scouting combine:
http://www.nfl.com/n...couting-combine
Some Combine highlights:

[Katiefrost]

Marcus Mariota

or
Jameis Winston?

[Beerfish]

Free agency starts in early march, players that are unrestricted free agents can be signed by any team.  (Often to the highest bidder in terms or salary, term, guaranteed money.)  Of course teams have to take into account the salary cap, they cannot exceed a total Dollar number in a given year so they have to plan out wisely who to spend money on and who not to.  Often the most highly sought most expensive players are signed early on and lower salaried players are signed as time goes on.

 

There is a general mantra by teams that they want to use free agency to fill holes on their teams so that at the draft they can chose the best player available. 

 

The draft occurs in late april/early may.  It is seven rounds long and team pick in essentially the reverse order of where they finished (including playoffs) thus Tampa Bay picks 1st and New england last in the 1st round, ties will alternate as the rounds go on.

 

To go along with the normal 7 rounds there are assigned 'compensatory' picks that some teams get.  The league has a formula that looks at what players you lost in free agency the previous year and ones you signed and if you come out on the short end of their formula you get from 1 to 4 compensatory picks that are set at the end of rounds 3 to 7.

 

After the draft is over there is a bit of a free for all of teams signing players who were drafted, teams usually end up singing 8-10 or so of these guys.

 

Trades can and often do happen at the draft, trades for players, trading up and down in the draft etc.  The 1st few rounds are obviously looked at as the most important ones but lots of gems have been found in mid to late rounds, teams spend a lot of time and money on their scouting departments.

[Beerfish]

Marcus Mariota

or
Jameis Winston?
 

Just tons of differing opinions on these two other than they are the consensus top two QB's in the draft.

 

Winston played in a pro style offense in college and looks the part when you watch him play, the knocks are that he turned the ball over too much this past year and has had character issues.  (Depending on the team character issues can be a very big deal in the draft process.)

 

Mariota was the Heisman winner and put up great numbers but he played in more of a non pro offense (essentially the offense the Eagles use, the Eagles coach was coach at Oregon.)  He is not used to playing under center, most of his plays are called in from the sidelines and a lot of his passes are of the short variety.  Mariota has impeccable character but a some people down grade him because of not being familiar with a pro style offense.

 

I think winston will get picked #1 overall to Tampa Bay.  Mariota, who knows.  I don't think he will fall far but where he goes will be interesting.  There is speculation that one or more teams will try and trade up to get him.

[Beerfish]

Re the Seahawks and the draft.  They could use a WR in my opinion, possibly a Rb if by any chance Beast mode leaves.  The good news is this is a good draft for WR's.  Their one CB, Maxwell is a free agent and will probably get signed for stupid money by some team so they will probably need a CB as well.  They might also lose one of their guards to free agency.

[mybudgee]

http://teamcoco.com/...ImlkIjozNjc0N30

[Katiefrost]

So after all those talks with the Detroit Lions, it looks like Jarryd Hayne will be signing with the San Francisco 49ers. I wish they he wasn't signing with such an intense Seahawk rival. He's a risk, but I was hoping Seattle would get him.
http://espn.go.com/n...ers-roster-spot
http://www.49ers.com...8e-a0c0176c60c0
It looks like the 49ers want to go to great lengths to distance themselves from last season.

The free agency period starts next week, March 10th. About those in the top tier:
http://www.nfl.com/f...movers-to-watch
All clubs must be under the 2015 salary cap by 3/10/15 4pm EST.

Important dates on the off season calendar:

March 10: 2015 league year and free agency period begin at 4 p.m. ET. All clubs must be under the 2015 salary cap before 4 p.m. ET.

March 22-25: Annual meeting, Phoenix

April 24: Deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets

April 29: Deadline for prior club to exercise right of first refusal to restricted free agents.

April 30-May 2: NFL draft, Chicago

May 8-11: First weekend after draft: Clubs may elect to hold their three-day post-draft rookie mini-camp from Friday through Sunday or Saturday through Monday.

May 15-18: Second weekend after draft: Clubs may elect to hold their three-day post-draft rookie mini-camp from Friday through Sunday or Saturday through Monday.

May 18-20: NFL spring league meeting, San Francisco

June 21-27: Rookie Symposium, Aurora, Ohio.

[Katiefrost]

A more detailed schedule:

Feb. 2 Waiver system begins for 2015
Feb. 7 NFL Regional Combine (Davie, Fla.)
Feb. 10 Beginning at Noon ET, NFL clubs may begin to sign players whose 2014 CFL contracts have expired. Players under contract to a CFL club for the 2015 season or who have an option for the 2015 season are not eligible to be signed
Feb. 14 NFL Regional Combine (Houston)
Feb. 16 First day for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players
Feb. 17-23 NFL Scouting Combine (Indianapolis)
Feb. 21 NFL Regional Combine (Dove Valley, Colo.)
Feb. 28 NFL Regional Combine (Owings Mills, Md.)
March 2 Prior to 4 p.m. ET, deadline for clubs to designate Franchise or Transition Players
March 7 NFL Regional Combine (Lake Forest, Ill.)
March 7-10 Clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2014 contracts at 4 p.m. ET on March 10. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4 p.m. ET on March 10
March 10 Prior to 4 p.m. ET, clubs must exercise options for 2015 on all players who have option clauses in their 2014 contracts
Prior to 4 p.m. ET, clubs must submit qualifying offers to their Restricted Free Agents with expiring contracts and to whom they desire to retain a Right of First Refusal/Compensation
Prior to 4 p.m. ET, clubs must submit a Minimum Salary Tender to retain exclusive negotiating rights to their players with expiring 2014 contracts and who have fewer than three accrued seasons of free agency credit
Top-51 Begins. All clubs must be under the 2015 salary cap prior to 4 p.m. ET
All 2014 player contracts expire at 4 p.m. ET
2015 league year and free agency period begins (4 p.m. ET)
Trading period for 2015 begins (4 p.m. ET)
March 19-21 NFL Career Development Symposium (Phoenix)
March 21-22 Super Regional Combine (Phoenix)
March 22-25 NFL Annual Meeting (Phoenix)
April 6 Clubs that hired a new head coach after the end of the 2014 regular season may begin offseason workout programs
April 20 Clubs with returning head coaches may begin offseason workout programs
April 24 Deadline for Restricted Free Agents to sign offer sheets
April 29 Deadline for prior club to exercise Right of First Refusal to Restricted Free Agents
April 30-May 2 NFL Draft (Chicago)
May 8-11 First weekend after the NFL Draft: Clubs may elect to hold their three-day post-draft rookie minicamp from Friday through Sunday or Saturday through Monday
May 11 Rookie Football Development Program begins
May 15-18 Second weekend after the NFL Draft: Clubs may elect to hold their three- day post-draft rookie minicamp from Friday through Sunday or Saturday through Monday
May 18-20 NFL Spring League Meeting (San Francisco)
June 1 For any player removed from the club’s roster or whose contract is assigned via waivers or trade on or after June 1, any unamortized signing bonus amounts for future years will be included fully in team salary at the start of the 2016 League Year
Deadline for prior club to send “June 1 Tender” to its unsigned Unrestricted Free Agents. If the player has not signed a contract with a club by July 22 or the first scheduled day of the first NFL training camp, whichever is later, he may negotiate or sign a contract from that date until the Tuesday following the 10th weekend of the regular season, at 4 p.m. ET, only with his prior club
Deadline for prior club to send “June 1 Tender” to its unsigned Restricted Free Agents who received a qualifying offer for a Right of First Refusal Only in order for such player to be subject to the CBA’s “June 15 Tender” provision
June 15 Deadline for club to withdraw qualifying offer to Restricted Free Agents and still retain exclusive negotiating rights by substituting “June 15 Tender” of one-year contract at 110 percent of the player’s prior-year Paragraph 5 Salary (with all other terms of his prior-year contract carried forward unchanged)
June 21-27 Rookie Symposium (Aurora, Ohio)
July 15 At 4 p.m. ET, deadline for any club that designated a Franchise Player to sign such player to a multi-year contract or extension. After this date, the player may sign only a one-year contract with his prior club for the 2015 season, and such contract cannot be extended until after the club’s last regular season game
Mid-July Clubs are permitted to open preseason training camp for rookies and first-year players beginning seven days prior to the club’s earliest permissible mandatory reporting date for veteran players
Veteran players (defined as a player with at least one pension- credited season) other than quarterbacks or “injured players” (as defined in CBA Article 21, Section 6) may report to a club’s preseason training camp no earlier than 15 days prior to the club’s first scheduled preseason game or July 15, whichever is later
Veteran quarterbacks and injured players may be required to report to the club’s preseason training camp no earlier than five days immediately prior to the mandatory reporting date for all other veteran players, provided the club has already opened (or simultaneously opens) its official preseason training camp for all rookies and first-year players
A three-day acclimation period will apply to players who are on a club’s roster up to and including the mandatory veteran reporting date. Players who join the roster after that date may practice (including wearing pads) and play immediately after passing a physical
July 22* Signing Period ends for unrestricted Free Agents to whom a “June 1 Tender” was made by prior club. After this date and until 4 p.m. ET, on the Tuesday following the 10th weekend of the regular season, prior club has exclusive negotiating rights (* or the first scheduled day of the first NFL training camp, whichever is later.)
July 22 Signing period ends for Transition Players with outstanding tenders. After this date and until 4 p.m. ET, on the Tuesday following the 10th weekend of the regular season, prior club has exclusive negotiating rights

[Katiefrost]

http://teamcoco.com/...ImlkIjozNjc0N30

I saw this a while back. Gifted athlete, but don't know about those verbal skills... LOL
It's a credit to Conan O'Brien though, to have persuaded M.Lynch to loosen up this much.

[Katiefrost]

The Cardinals did some budgeting and now have some cap space:
http://espn.go.com/b...y-cap-situation

Round one draft projections (highly speculative):
http://bleacherrepor...icks-in-round-1

Question: Wouldn't it make more money sense for the teams to have the draft first?

[Jorji Costava]

Breaking news: Looks like the Eagles are shipping LeSean McCoy to Buffalo for linebacker Kiko Alonso. My only reaction right now is, "Ugh. Why?" First the Eagles let DeSean Jackson go to a divisional rival for nothing, now it's Shady McCoy. I get that the defense needs help, and that running backs don't have a very long shelf life, but, man, this is a hard one to take.

[themikefest]

Ndamukong Suh, defensive lineman for the Detroit Lions, is now a Dolphin

http://espn.go.com/b...ny-for-dolphins

[Beerfish]

The Cardinals did some budgeting and now have some cap space:
http://espn.go.com/b...y-cap-situation

Round one draft projections (highly speculative):
http://bleacherrepor...icks-in-round-1

Question: Wouldn't it make more money sense for the teams to have the draft first?

No, the normal way teams like to do things is use free agency to fill holes in the roster so that when you get to the draft you are not forced to draft a certain player or position and can 'in theory' take the best player available.  Drafting for need is soothing that teams very close to winning (ala the Sea hawks) can do but teams in full rebuild mode should avoid this if possible and try and get the best players possible.  For example, my team the lowly NY Jets have a big need at cornerback but it would be a real reach to pick a corner at 6th overall this year.

[Beerfish]

All sorts of wild huge trades being made just before FA officially kicks off.

 

Seahawks trade for Jimmy Graham from the Saints.

Haloti Nagata from Balt to detroit

Eagles and Rams swapping QB

 

EVERYTHING IS HAPPENING!