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Anyone else find Skyhold's mere existence a bit...ridiculous?


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I want to know how people get up in there. The drawbridge doesn't have stairs at the opposite end, just a tower and the whole thing is set on top of some steep cliffs. There aren't even any roads in sight. Why are we even based there? There is no benefit, it must be extremely hard to get in and out, get supplies and food and converts and it never gets attacked or threatened. We should have had a moving war camp like Robb Stark in Game of Thrones.


Josephine does mention building roads.

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There is a path that lead up to the end of the bridge maybe an interior set of stairs like the one tower in the hinterlands.
And what is with the whole no chamber pots and baths. They were all over the last two games, kinda like the cheese wheels.
Also there is a codex entry in what Solas know of Skyhold. No there is not special cutscenes with Solas about Skyhold
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WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS...

 

How come there's no snow, and bloody trees and colorfulness and puddles and warmth inside Skyhold, and then 3 feet past the wall it's blistering cold snow everywhere in the middle of a snow covered mountain. What is this sorcery!?


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WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS...

How come there's no snow, and bloody trees and colorfulness and puddles and warmth inside Skyhold, and then 3 feet past the wall it's blistering cold snow everywhere in the middle of a snow covered mountain. What is this sorcery!?


The magic that has seeped into the stone?
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WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS...

 

How come there's no snow, and bloody trees and colorfulness and puddles and warmth inside Skyhold, and then 3 feet past the wall it's blistering cold snow everywhere in the middle of a snow covered mountain. What is this sorcery!?

 

That's kind of explained. It's magic.

 

That's why you have a fertile garden that can grow pretty much everything despite said blistering cold.


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How come there's no snow, and bloody trees and colorfulness and puddles and warmth inside Skyhold, and then 3 feet past the wall it's blistering cold snow everywhere in the middle of a snow covered mountain. What is this sorcery!?

Sorcery.



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WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS...

 

How come there's no snow, and bloody trees and colorfulness and puddles and warmth inside Skyhold, and then 3 feet past the wall it's blistering cold snow everywhere in the middle of a snow covered mountain. What is this sorcery!?

 

There's plenty of snow in the Undercroft. I like to imagine Dagna and Harritt having snowball fights when the Inquisitor's not there.


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What I don't get is why nobody fixed that damn crack in the wall between the main hall and the war room. It's the most important room in the whole place and there's rubble just lying around and a gaping whole in the OUTER WALL OF YOUR MILITARY FORTRESS.

 

Sigh. Lets talk about throwing ****** on enemy soldiers again. 


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Too bad the Inquisitor can't ask that guy who puts up tiles to fix the wall instead. I wish I could spend sovereigns to get some dwarves to fix those things for me, much in the same way the Warden-Commander can pay a ton of money to get that dwarf to reinforce Vigil's Keep.


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You know what's even more silly? I have yet to find a single latrine or bathtub in this entire game..........Surely people gotta "go" sometimes and no matter what Dorian says, at least some Fereldens take baths.

 

(I need a bathtub to share with Cullen Bioware) LOL.


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Ok, yeah the holes in the wall on the way to the war room bug me... the outer wall that is still collapsed in between the stables in kitchen bugs me, the one draw bridge to a single tower that may or may not have stairs down to some roads bugs me, the lack of snow in our courtyard and garden despite snow all around bugs me,  and the last thing that bugs me....  is when i look out at the troops camped in the valley...  if you look closely they are camped on the ice of a lake/river...  ok, i can understand if its really really thick, but its not 100% frozen, there are tents and even fires going on top of cracks in the ice....  who the hell decided our troops should camp there?!  damnit cullen....


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I love the idea of Skyhold, but the logistics of the place must be an utter nightmare. It would have been better if Skyhold had overlooked a non-frozen mountain valley where our soldiers can camp without turning into icicles, people can settle, food can be grown and horses pastured. As it is, we're utterly dependent on constant supply caravans, and thus utterly vulnerable to having supply lines cut off. It doesn't even take a hostile army to do so. Snowstorms, rockslides, avalanches ... Skyhold should be deadlocked in snow for at least part of the year.

 

As others have said, I was also disappointed that so much damage never gets fixed. The tower right under our quarters, the corridor outside the war room, the dilapidated chapel in a fort full of devout Andrastians. And the upgrades we can make are useless. And there's no storage.


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WHAT I DONT UNDERSTAND IS...

 

How come there's no snow, and bloody trees and colorfulness and puddles and warmth inside Skyhold, and then 3 feet past the wall it's blistering cold snow everywhere in the middle of a snow covered mountain. What is this sorcery!?

 

Could be a confusion of cause and effect. That Skyhold was built in that place specifically because it's a little oasis of warmth and fertility up in the mountains. I don't know near enough about that sort of thing to know if that's at all plausible.
 


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By the way, the reason why the corridor outside the war room is never fixed is - at least in part - because then the sunlight streams through that gap, and patching up the wall would kill that. I suppose it could be replaced by a window or something, but that's obviously more work than just being duplicating the wall texture and deleting the rubble. 

 

Also, I hope the complaints about lack of bathrooms and beds and whatnot aren't serious accusations. No player wants to go exploring and find nothing but rows of beds or crops or bathrooms or whatever, regardless of how 'realistic' that might be. It's boring.



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The reality of history is scary eh? :D

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The reality of history is scary eh? :D


History?! That still happens in a lot of 3rd world countries now, countries that can somehow afford international sports teams and sports stadiums!

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You know what's even more silly? I have yet to find a single latrine or bathtub in this entire game..........Surely people gotta "go" sometimes and no matter what Dorian says, at least some Fereldens take baths.

 

(I need a bathtub to share with Cullen Bioware) LOL.

 

It's been staring you in the face the entire time!

 

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By the way, the reason why the corridor outside the war room is never fixed is - at least in part - because then the sunlight streams through that gap, and patching up the wall would kill that. I suppose it could be replaced by a window or something, but that's obviously more work than just being duplicating the wall texture and deleting the rubble. 

 

Also, I hope the complaints about lack of bathrooms and beds and whatnot aren't serious accusations. No player wants to go exploring and find nothing but rows of beds or crops or bathrooms or whatever, regardless of how 'realistic' that might be. It's boring.

 

I'd be very happy to find a castle equipped with all these facilities. Especially the crops. Logistically speaking that castle must be a fricking nightmare to feed and it bugs me. I'm reluctantly forced to admit however the rest of you weirdoes mostly don't care about this kind of thing, but do not mistake my usual silence for complicity.


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People get catapulted inside the keep. Lucky there's Cullen to properly calibrated the trebuchets.


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I'd be very happy to find a castle equipped with all these facilities. Especially the crops. Logistically speaking that castle must be a fricking nightmare to feed and it bugs me. I'm reluctantly forced to admit however the rest of you weirdoes mostly don't care about this kind of thing, but do not mistake my usual silence for complicity.

The logistics of Skyhold boggle my mind too. I think the devs went with the rule of cool and said 'magic' to explain everything. A castle in the mountains is hard to attack, sure, but just cut off the supply lines and it's screwed

 

I have to wonder where our vast army is quartered too. How many soldiers do we have anyway? So many things left vague.


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You know what's even more silly? I have yet to find a single latrine or bathtub in this entire game..........Surely people gotta "go" sometimes and no matter what Dorian says, at least some Fereldens take baths.

 

(I need a bathtub to share with Cullen Bioware) LOL.

 

In Crestwood, the lady that lives outside of town, that you go check on, has a pretty red bathtub in her cabin. I'm so in awe of that bath tub and want one in my bedroom at Skyhold. 

 

She probably lives out of town so everybody in town doesn't beg to use her bathtub.  :P


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I'd be very happy to find a castle equipped with all these facilities. Especially the crops. Logistically speaking that castle must be a fricking nightmare to feed and it bugs me. I'm reluctantly forced to admit however the rest of you weirdoes mostly don't care about this kind of thing, but do not mistake my usual silence for complicity.

  

The logistics of Skyhold boggle my mind too. I think the devs went with the rule of cool and said 'magic' to explain everything. A castle in the mountains is hard to attack, sure, but just cut off the supply lines and it's screwed
 
I have to wonder where our vast army is quartered too. How many soldiers do we have anyway? So many things left vague.


Hipster Eirene was complaining about these things before it was cool the game came out. B)

The simplest answer is that BioWare's devs are not historians. They are certainly not military historians. It's not their job. So they can put a massive fortress in the middle of a desert and have a big siege assault for it. They can put another massive fortress in the mountains with no food and scant communications with the outside world. They can put a huge city underground and feed it with overland grain shipments and lichens.

None of these things is plausible, either by reference to the real world or to the fantasy setting. But they operate via Rule of Cool, and Rule of Good Enough for Most Players, and that's perfectly fine. It's unfortunate, and makes the setting less tight than it ought to be, but these things are hard enough already.
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Try figuring out how anyone gets up to that bridge to nowhere that is the front entrance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The best i can come up with is that the column at the end of it houses some kind of elevator.



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The logistics of Skyhold boggle my mind too. I think the devs went with the rule of cool and said 'magic' to explain everything. A castle in the mountains is hard to attack, sure, but just cut off the supply lines and it's screwed
 
I have to wonder where our vast army is quartered too. How many soldiers do we have anyway? So many things left vague.


The army is camped in the valley bellow. You can see it from the walls.
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Could be a confusion of cause and effect. That Skyhold was built in that place specifically because it's a little oasis of warmth and fertility up in the mountains. I don't know near enough about that sort of thing to know if that's at all plausible.
 

Maybe Skyhold sits on a "hot spot." You know, a caldera volcano that may or may not blow the castle sky high in the next thousand years or so. Of course, then the lake would probably not be frozen....<sigh>....oh well, back to game magic.