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[sjsharp2011]

There are some people here who will disagree with you
Personally, I played with EC already installed and enjoyed the game thoroughly. In fact, I still play it (the singleplayer aspect). 
I don't think it's an indication of not playing the game, more like being overly attached to the characters.

Exactly that I think. I'm not and have never said to anyone on any forum or youtube that the ending's perfect because I know it isn't and I can see it's flaws but for me as long as it meets the requirement of making sense within the ME universe it counts and for me as bad as the ending may or not be for me personally it meets that requirement. I'm happy with it and I hope to enjoy this game series for many years to come. In my view the positives of ME3 far outweigh the negatives. Enough to forgive the negatives? For me personally yes but clearly that's not the case with everyone

[sjsharp2011]

ME2 takes the longest for me. Mostly because I deplete every available planet

Yeah same here ME1 I can get through at speed between 3-4 days. ME2 takes me about a week. ME3 is usually somewhere in between longer than 1 but faster than 2. To complete the trilogy from beginning to end usually takes about 2 weeks to get through but that's when I play the 3 games back to back. I don't always do this though as I completed ME2 of my current run about 2/3 days ago and haven't started ME3 yet although I'm planning on doing so at some point this evening once I'm finished watching my DVD's I have on the go.

Look, he's saying that he skips the dialogue sequences.  I never doubted him there.  If he just played the game as a cover mechanic...   Sure,  You can prolly beat the game in 23 hours.
 
I just don't understand why you're on here yelling at someone for it taking them longer especially when they want to enjoy the dialogue?  And beside that, how do you know that he isn't talking about all three games put together?  He doesn't make it clear in his original post.

Yeah me too I bought the game to enjoy the story not just to blast everything that moves. As for me that's the whole point of games like this. I enjoy both elements but without the story it wouldn't feel right

[goishen]

ME1 usually takes me the longest, because I have to do every single little quest.  Once I'm onboard the Citadel, it's usually my dead space time.  Meaning, yah, I'm in space, but I'm running around the citadel doing other things.  Scanning keepers, doing the consort's quest, etc.  I'm usually there for about 4 hours.

[IamOuterRate]

Learn how to read and think critically. I go AT MY OWN PACE. Which is pretty quick. I even gave you the exact time of my last save on that file, which I got from booting up the game and looking. You literally cannot disprove me on this.

 

I've also played through the game at least 10 times, far more than enough to notice all of the really idiotic bits of the game. Check my ME3 profile and manifest to see how long I've had the game.

 

If everything I've said indicates that I've played the game more than once (I explicitly said "my last SENTINEL playthrough" earlier, implying that that save is one of several across different classes), why are you pushing that I've played the game only once?

 

I don't know why you're so incapable of believing that a fairly short game can be beaten in a fairly short amount of time, but it only makes YOU look like an idiot.

Yea right. Mmmhm

[IamOuterRate]

Each game takes me roughly anywhere from 35-50 hours. 

 

It's sad being a completionist.

I guess but these people saying they beat in such short time make me cringe. I wonder how long it took these people to beat DAi, a day? Lol

[themikefest]

I guess but these people saying they beat in such short time make me cringe. I wonder how long it took these people to beat DAi, a day? Lol

I did a playthrough that took only 17 hours to complete

[goishen]

*shrug*  I guess I just like to enjoy my games for more than the quick run throughs that y'all do.  I think the majority of people on this board do, as well.  

 

At any rate, we're getting this off topic.

[themikefest]

Who says I don't enjoy doing a full playthrough of DAI or ME? I have done more than one playthrough. Right now I'm about halfway into my ninth playthrough of DAI. At times I do enjoy doing speedruns just to see how quickly I can finish a game. I mean every playthrough doesn't have to be a full playthrough, right?

[sjsharp2011]

Who says I don't enjoy doing a full playthrough of DAI or ME? I have done more than one playthrough. Right now I'm about halfway into my ninth playthrough of DAI. At times I do enjoy doing speedruns just to see how quickly I can finish a game. I mean every playthrough doesn't have to be a full playthrough, right?

Yeah I agree there aer times I skip missions as well I did in my current run as I chose not to do /legio0n's Samara's or Jack's before the SM. Mostly to mix things up a bit and I succeeded in a way seeing as Jack died in the Biotic shield section of the mission. Everyone else survived though. It's just a case of seeing how things will happen in ME3 now. My normal route is to keep everyone alive if I can was just doing it this way to mix things up as I said.

[o Ventus]

I guess but these people saying they beat in such short time make me cringe. I wonder how long it took these people to beat DAi, a day? Lol

DAI has much more content than any of the ME games. ME3 takes me 20 hours, DAI takes me at least 40. 

 

Not that you would believe me. I could post pictures of my saves and you would claim they were doctored.

[iPatrikolby]

You misspell the name...Mass Affect?

[Rahmiel]

I liked ME3 a lot, and still do.  I think it's better than ME2.  When I first played ME3, I was really upset with the ending.  It just seemed to be wrong in the context of the whole series.  That said, take the ending out of the game series and it's alright.  Most of my friends that played the game loved it up until the ending.  After they beat the game they swore off bioware.  I don't know how one ending can change a game from a perfect score to.. a perfect score (perfect zero).  To go from one side of the spectrum to the other is pretty ridiculous.

 

I also raged when I beat ME2.  The game failed to explore what I wanted it to, it failed to captialise on the direction I felt the first game set up.  I also did not enjoy the combat system going from 1 to 2.   There were so many problems I had with the second game and chief among them was the ending.  However, I found myself unable to stop playing it.  In time, I came to like ME2 and become really excited for ME3.  Time is all it takes.

 

Anyone who will sit here and exclaim that bioware ruined their reputation, the whole ME3 game, and are swearing off all future bioware games solely because of the ending are just being completely stubborn.  It's fine to not like it, disagree and overall hate the ending.  It's subjective.  To then go and make a manifesto because of it and try to ... recoup your money or hold the company accountable over the ending I think is childish and irrational.  If you played to the end of the game, you obviously enjoyed the game.

 

Again, let me just re-iterate, if you did not like ME3 at all, that's fine.  I'm speaking about people who SOLELY dislike everything bioware has ever touched strictly because of the ending.  And most of the vocal people out there are those, or at least I've found from these forums, other forums, twitch, youtube, etc.  Plenty of people dislike the game (as a whole) which is fine.  I disagree with them.  I enjoyed everything about it.  I found it was a perfect mixture of ME1 and ME2.  I just disagreed with the direction of the ending and content, etc.  But that's my vision clashing with theirs.

 

C'est la vie.

[IamOuterRate]

DAI has much more content than any of the ME games. ME3 takes me 20 hours, DAI takes me at least 40. 

 

Not that you would believe me. I could post pictures of my saves and you would claim they were doctored.

I can believe you on DAi. 

[IamOuterRate]

I did a playthrough that took only 17 hours to complete

Was this a speed run? Or did you level? Cause some area's in the game you just can't go(those VERY strong coms) cause you under level'd.

[IamOuterRate]

*shrug*  I guess I just like to enjoy my games for more than the quick run throughs that y'all do.  I think the majority of people on this board do, as well.  

 

At any rate, we're getting this off topic.

We are.

[IamOuterRate]

I liked ME3 a lot, and still do.  I think it's better than ME2.  When I first played ME3, I was really upset with the ending.  It just seemed to be wrong in the context of the whole series.  That said, take the ending out of the game series and it's alright.  Most of my friends that played the game loved it up until the ending.  After they beat the game they swore off bioware.  I don't know how one ending can change a game from a perfect score to.. a perfect score (perfect zero).  To go from one side of the spectrum to the other is pretty ridiculous.

 

I also raged when I beat ME2.  The game failed to explore what I wanted it to, it failed to captialise on the direction I felt the first game set up.  I also did not enjoy the combat system going from 1 to 2.   There were so many problems I had with the second game and chief among them was the ending.  However, I found myself unable to stop playing it.  In time, I came to like ME2 and become really excited for ME3.  Time is all it takes.

 

Anyone who will sit here and exclaim that bioware ruined their reputation, the whole ME3 game, and are swearing off all future bioware games solely because of the ending are just being completely stubborn.  It's fine to not like it, disagree and overall hate the ending.  It's subjective.  To then go and make a manifesto because of it and try to ... recoup your money or hold the company accountable over the ending I think is childish and irrational.  If you played to the end of the game, you obviously enjoyed the game.

 

Again, let me just re-iterate, if you did not like ME3 at all, that's fine.  I'm speaking about people who SOLELY dislike everything bioware has ever touched strictly because of the ending.  And most of the vocal people out there are those, or at least I've found from these forums, other forums, twitch, youtube, etc.  Plenty of people dislike the game (as a whole) which is fine.  I disagree with them.  I enjoyed everything about it.  I found it was a perfect mixture of ME1 and ME2.  I just disagreed with the direction of the ending and content, etc.  But that's my vision clashing with theirs.

 

C'est la vie.

Hi i feel ya..... But your profile pic.... I killed him.... 

[SofaJockey]

Judged together, ME 1, 2 and 3 are an awesome series with a problematic ending.

 

The ending was disappointing on release,

with the EC I have found sufficient peace with the Control ending (certainly some irony there) to not break the trilogy's replay-ability permanently.

 

If they released a next gen definitive edition, I'd be boarding the Normandy for another ride.

[themikefest]

Was this a speed run? Or did you level? Cause some area's in the game you just can't go(those VERY strong coms) cause you under level'd.

 I did  it just to see how fast I could finish the game. I did my playthrough on the ps3. What are VERY strong coms?

 

here's someone doing a speedrun in less than 5 hours on the pc

[o Ventus]

A screenshot of my save profile with the total play time on it.

 

 

Because it's so alien to believe that a short game can be beaten in a short time.

[sjsharp2011]

DAI has much more content than any of the ME games. ME3 takes me 20 hours, DAI takes me at least 40. 
 
Not that you would believe me. I could post pictures of my saves and you would claim they were doctored.

True but I think the DA games are bigger for the most part anyway as they're big open world maps for the most part ME is more contained. As I said ME2 usually takes me a week to do I was only about half way in that time on Origins probably less considering I hadn't rally done any side missions or at least not many in that time. I'm not saying it makes it better or worse than ME as everyone has their opiniom. My preference is and probably always will be Mass Effect but I'm a huge fan of both series

[IamOuterRate]

 I did  it just to see how fast I could finish the game. I did my playthrough on the ps3. What are VERY strong coms?

 

here's someone doing a speedrun in less than 5 hours on the pc

 

 I did  it just to see how fast I could finish the game. I did my playthrough on the ps3. What are VERY strong coms?

 

here's someone doing a speedrun in less than 5 hours on the pc

NPC's..... Coms = computers... CPU.... Npc... 

 

Wew. Lol

[KotorEffect3]

A screenshot of my save profile with the total play time on it.

 

 

Because it's so alien to believe that a short game can be beaten in a short time.

That screen shot does not prove that you have actually beaten the game.  Citadel DLC unlocks after the coup.  Not that it matters.  I don't see the point of rushing through an ME game.

[o Ventus]

That screen shot does not prove that you have actually beaten the game.  Citadel DLC unlocks after the coup. 

I also have MEHEM and the Citadel Ending mod, which keeps the Citadel DLC locked until after you complete Priority: Earth.

[BassStyles]

Not knowing what it is actually called?

Dammit, beat me to it.

Well, it's already been stated and discussed through and through, but I guess until there is something new to discuss about ME:N this what will always be on the table... Ending topics!

Ending could've been better. Given the talent and creativity that I've seen from Bioware's past works (and current!) they could've put together a more solidly, constructed ending. I still believe development woes forced their hand to release what we received.

I still hold the belief that ME2 elements should've been switched with ME3... The crew in ME2 should've been in ME3 because then ALL those new people introduced in media res wouldn't have been an afterthought more or less like they were in ME3. Plus Bioware stretched themselves thin with the import feature with so many characters to account for from ME2. Put them in ME3 for the endgame and then they wouldn't have to worry about the next import (or maybe we will with ME:N ;-D)

ME3 only introduced 2 new characters in Javik (optional) and James. EDI is new too, but obviously would need a rewrite to explain my hypothetical scenario here. So that would've made for an easier transition from ME1 (that familiarity with past SM) as well as making it easier for an import.

Then the Suicide Mission... That was a way to end a game. Hell Bioware didn't want to have a final boss because it was too "gamey"... Cool, I can respect that. Some of the deepest, greatest moments from the ME series did not involved me taking out my rifle once and going pew pew. So make the Catalyst confrontation at the Collector (Reaper) Base.

That really is what felt lacking during ME3's ending to me personally. It didn't have enough build up and reward for all your previous hours of gameplay endeavors. Having a Suicide Mission style ending during Priority: Earth would've been great to see or again, my suggestion of switching ME2 with 3 and having a small group infiltrate the Reaper hive like they do with the CB. That would give me a finality that I can set my watch to.

Aside from that, the Reaper motive, Catalyst, and all that jazz, I'm cool with. I would've liked it presented differently, for example instead of a kid manifestation, do what Levi did and take the form of fallen squad mates, Anderson, TIM, VS, hell anybody. That would've resonated with me more.

So really, I don't have a problem with the story aspect of the ending, save for a few cosmetic changes I'd preferred, it was mostly the final missions that needed an overhaul to send off one of the greatest series in gaming history.

[goishen]

For me, it had too much buildup.  From the start of the game, you had this big huge monstrosity in the room that everybody talked about and how everybody wasn't sure how they were going to take down.  That monstrosity was called the war and the reapers.  The only hope for your people, for the entire galaxy, was the Crucible.  So, kind'a a wish and a prayer there. 

 

I don't mean to sound ungrateful, though.  It was my favorite game.  I just don't think that most people, most Americans I mean, can see some of the symbolism in the very end.  What the entire was trying to get you to do was to fall in love with EDI...   At least from my perspective.  To show how an AI can change her mind, change her programming.  And how TIM couldn't see that  --  How blinded he was by controlling the reapers until he actually became a husk.   TIM became the very thing that he was trying to avoid, that he was fighting against.  

 

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."  F. Nietzsche

 

I don't want to get all philosophical on you now, but the game does hold some very important underpinnings.  

 

EDIT :   Much in the same way that people couldn't understand how Dexter ended.  It was symbolic.  It wasn't literal.