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Why is it so hard to kill dragons?


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GilgameshX

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I've been trying for a while to kill the storm chaser dragon and I can't micro manage the party enough. The tank keeps on getting hit and killed by the electric attacks and Dorian and Solas keep on getting kicked to bitten. Dorian has dispel but since the ai dose not auto dispel so the timing is constantly off. My main is a tempest. What am I doing wrong?

 

 



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If you haven't already, go to Val Royeaux and pick up the resistance tonics (one of the merchants near the garden sells them), and upgrade the lightning one to full. It takes one tonic to cover the party for the whole fight, and it will halve any lightning damage your party takes.

If you really want to make the fight easy, track down the mighty offense tonic recipe and upgrade it to full. It gives your rogues a massive bump to damage if they have a decent crit chance.

Also, make sure your rogues have plenty of sundering abilities, so their damage isn't getting chewed up by the dragon's armor.

Finally, Hold Position is your friend. Go to tac cam, spread your party out so the lightning circles won't overlap, and double-click their locations until a shield appears. They'll stay in place unless they need to move to attack.

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For one, you need flasks of electricity resistance tonic (buy the recipe in the VR book shop if you don't have it. Two use mark of the rift whenever possible to slow the dragon and, drain her health decently. Three don't let your party randomly attack the dragon, focus all on one leg, until it's out of use, then the other either front or rear leg, and so on until the dragon is dead. And fourth too may mages -

 

The Gamordan Storrmrider is resistant to electricity and weak to spirit damage so, you only need one mage that can deal spirit damage and, prefers mind blast. Then a ranged rouge, that one will be able to stay alive best and can revive others. Resurgence is good to, once the pots are gone, that can save your team. Also set behavior to have a 0% mana/stamina reserve for all, that lets them use abilities as much as possible.



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Well, the easiest way by far is that since you are a tempest and Sera is a tempest, than take her along.    Fill up your focus ability to stage 3 for both of you before the dragon.   

 

Then run up to the dragon and activate your thousand cuts and Sera's thousand cuts...   Dead dragon.    Its literally a 5 second kill even on Nightmare for virtually every dragon.


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In addition to the previous post, before activating Thousand Cuts for yourself or Sera, use Flask of Fire.

 

Then repeat when stuff cools down.

 

If you feel like a TOTAL badass, bring Cole with Mark of Death, learn how to use it properly - 2x Thousand Cuts, amplified by Mark of Death = three fourths of Dragon's HP gone - if she's feeling adamant.


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You have to have a good strategy and gear crafted by yourself which gives you bonuses against dragons...

 

I always crafted gear that does barrier damage to bring down their barriers quickly and I also used disengage a lot because they move faster when their weapons are not drawn. I used disengage until the dragon finished doing their attacks and attacked them after.

 

Having Cole with me while fighting dragons was crucial because mark of death + mark of the rift is just insane and also hidden blades + mark of death.



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Alan Drifter13

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In addition to the previous post, before activating Thousand Cuts for yourself or Sera, use Flask of Fire.

 

Then repeat when stuff cools down.

 

If you feel like a TOTAL badass, bring Cole with Mark of Death, learn how to use it properly - 2x Thousand Cuts, amplified by Mark of Death = three fourths of Dragon's HP gone - if she's feeling adamant.

 

Yes, this. Abuse Mark of Death + Thousand Cuts and high dragons die immediately, even in Nightmare.

 

Or use the passives for Varric to minimize the cooldowns and maximize crit chance (I think they are "and take them down" and "looked like it hurt", but check it out in the descriptions), use his focus ability for 2x damage and spamm "leaping shot". With the extra damage from the focus ability it'll kill the dragon quickly (of course, you have to craft good upgrades for Bianca).

 

Or bring Vivienne and use her spirit sword, with the passive that adds barrier on hit (can't remember the name right now). This last method will take forever, but she'll never die so eventually the dragon will be dead.



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My advice would be to wait till level 20 or so.

 

I didn't start killind dragons until I had done everything else at level 23. By that point I was able to take them all down in one or two sittings. Also make sure that, if you are a mage, you take into account their resistances.



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I had been killing dragons from range (which is really easy), but just yesterday I killed my first dragon entirely without cheese.

I hadn't intended to fight the dragon (Kaltenzahn); I had wanted to sneak to the viewing skull near it, but that didn't work. The battle took a long time (perhaps 30 minutes), but it didn't prove difficult. That said, I was a higher level than the dragon, I had just crafted some masterwork tier 3 armour for Iron Bull, whose weapon also generates Guard on hit, and the aforementioned Vivienne's Spirit Blade which generates Barrier on hit also proved useful.

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I need help with this too. I'm playing on nightmare and everything else is going fine. I'm enjoying the level of challenge but the dragons are super difficult. I am able to kill them with a knight enchanter but not with other builds. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. :/ The problem I have is that by the time I have enough resources to craft good gear and runes I've already out-levelled some of the dragons.

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I had been killing dragons from range (which is really easy), but just yesterday I killed my first dragon entirely without cheese.

I hadn't intended to fight the dragon (Kaltenzahn); I had wanted to sneak to the viewing skull near it, but that didn't work. The battle took a long time (perhaps 30 minutes), but it didn't prove difficult. That said, I was a higher level than the dragon, I had just crafted some masterwork tier 3 armour for Iron Bull, whose weapon also generates Guard on hit, and the aforementioned Vivienne's Spirit Blade which generates Barrier on hit also proved useful.

 

Ah, Kalt. Shouldn't have made her nest next to an ocularum. I kill her first (of the three Emprise dragons) for exactly that reason.

 

And like you say, she's mechanically easier than many of the other dragons. She doesn't have much health, she doesn't move around as much, and you can completely skip her dragonling phase without too much effort. She's the only dragon I've beaten over a 3-level gap - and with 11 potions to spare.

 

It made the Highland Ravager that much more of a rude awakening. :D



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Flasks of electricity resistance tonic? Tac cam?? Armor with 50-60% resist to electricity and you good to go.



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You're not doing anything wrong, you're just playing an action game on a console.  Micro-managing (is not a bad word) characters and their abilities used to be part of the tactical RPG experience.  Now it's all hack-slash, button-mashing nonsense.  Tactics?  Pahhh....what tactics?



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All this and Dorian isn't adding anything to your party. Hate to say it but necro can't do much against dragons, so you might as well swap him out for someone else like Viv, Sera or Iron Bull.



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My advice would be to wait till level 20 or so.

 

I didn't start killind dragons until I had done everything else at level 23. By that point I was able to take them all down in one or two sittings. Also make sure that, if you are a mage, you take into account their resistances.

 

Naah, you don't need so much. As long as you craft good weapons it's good enough if you are the same level of the dragon or maybe 1 level higher. For example, the dragon in Crestwood is only level 13, so you don't need to be higher than 14 for that battle to be easy. I killed the level 23 dragon (the hardest one, in theory) with level 22 character in one minute, simply abusing Mark of Death as I explained above.



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Arvaarad

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I killed the level 23 dragon (the hardest one, in theory) with level 22 character in one minute, simply abusing Mark of Death as I explained above.


That's how mark of death is supposed to be used. I'm not sure why people think it's some kind of sneaky trick. Do you think you're supposed to throw a mark of death, then not use your most damaging abilities?

"Abuse" would be having your tempest use flask of fire, then doing thousand cuts twice in a row.

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I thought the flask/ thousand cuts thing had been nerfed?

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I thought the flask/ thousand cuts thing had been nerfed?


Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if it has been. Hence why I used it as an example of something that isn't being used as intended.

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That's how mark of death is supposed to be used. I'm not sure why people think it's some kind of sneaky trick. Do you think you're supposed to throw a mark of death, then not use your most damaging abilities?

"Abuse" would be having your tempest use flask of fire, then doing thousand cuts twice in a row.

 

Yes, you are right. And you are also supposed to craft the best weapons possible. It's just that using MOD + Hidden Blades with 2 daggers that have 400+ DPS feels a lot like abusing the game's combat system. But yes, that's totally how it's meant to be used.