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[Eliastion]

I changed the king of Orzammar. It's bad form and all, but Harrowmont proved to be so terribly incompetent for the job that I couldn't help myself but to tweak that thing and give Orzammar the despot it deserves. I'm not a great dwarf-lover, but I couldn't just do it to them and leave them to die and rot under that sorry excuse for a king for bad times (yeah, I know that for non-surface dwarves all times are bad, that's pretty much the point). 

[TheJediSaint]

I did fiddle with the Keep to change it so my Warden followed Morrigan through the mirror.  I'm a sucker for feels like that.

[daveliam]

I didn't change anything for my canon playthrough because I've already gone back and played both games to get the outcome where I want it for my exported files. 

For my alt playthroughs, though, I went back and created two 'alternate choice' world states to see how it affects the game.  I'm doing the first of those world state imported playthroughs now and I keep running into stuff that I'm not expecting and it's kind of cool. 

[Snook]

My canon history is way too near and dear to me for me to fiddle with, tbh. Female Dalish Warden, Bhelen is king, Alistair and Anora on the throne, Alistair had the OGB with Morrigan, romanced Leliana, mage Hawke, so on so on. 

 

I did change up some minor things for alt playthroughs though, like resurrecting Anders to see if it did anything and making my canon Warden do the Ultimate Sacrifice, mostly to see Leliana's dialogue about it, as she romanced her. (Which is another thing I can never change. The Leliana romance bit, I mean. Not the Warden dying bit. I prefer living. Killing my dear Warden was difficult.) 

 

Always the same general world/characters though, I can't seem to drift away from them. 

[riverbanks]

I didn't change anything for my canon playthrough because I've already gone back and played both games to get the outcome where I want it for my exported files. 

For my alt playthroughs, though, I went back and created two 'alternate choice' world states to see how it affects the game.

 

Same. For my canon playthrough, I didn't change anything, because I've replayed my canon so many times until I reached the fine-tuning point of everything being exactly where I wanted it before Inquisition came along.

 

For my alt playthroughs, though, I generally mess around with the Tapestries and metagame whatever I think will be most interesting to see next, or what I think I haven't seen yet, etc. Mostly for science and curiosity - at this point I'm too attached to my canon world state to change anything about it anymore, but some alternatives are interesting to explore on alternate playthroughs.

[phaonica]

I didn't fiddle with my 'canon'. But I don't attempt to make 'perfect' world states, either.

[Meer]

I changed very little, since I try to preserve my mistakes even if I view them as such. One instance though, where I could just not let things be, I absolutely had to let Merrill's clan live. After loving and playing Mahariel, messing up and killing them in II was not fun. 

[Thane4Ever]

I've made some tweaks with DAO romances and DA2 stuff, but I just can't bring myself to make Alistair king.  He's always a Grey Warden.  I also can't bring myself to kill my HoF so there's always an OGB.  This doesn't count one playthrough I did with the default world state due to an error on my part in the Keep.

[AlanC9]

It wouldn't occur to me to change anything about one of my actual runs. I may use the keep to set up world states I'd never play myself, though. I've still never played a total asshat Hawke who slaughtered everybody in sight, for instance

[Ash Wind]

Nope, didn't change a thing... though after the Keep scanned my saves, I had to fix some things, it had my PC as a City Elf... I dont have a city elf, no clue where that came from, but as far as the Keep and DAI goes, it appears to have imported my choices correctly.

[Andraste_Reborn]

The only thing I changed about my 'canon' world state was Anders' fate, because of its effect on the Sebastian romance. If Anders is alive - as he was in my world state - you can't select the 'romanced Sebastian' option. There's no 'romanced Sebastian right up until he demanded Hawke kill her friend, resulting in a rather dramatic break-up' tile. I couldn't stand the thought of Sebastian maybe showing up and behaving as if he never loved Hawke, so I retroactively killed Anders. Now that I know Sebastian doesn't appear physically and the only changes for the romance are a few lines of dialogue from Hawke and Varric, I'll probably change it back to what actually happened in game when I play my 'canon' Inquisitor again.

 

For my other world states, I made a few changes here and there. (Look, my Dalish elf Warden totally would have got around to helping Dagna, he just got distracted by something shiny on the way to the Circle tower.) I've also got one entire world state I made up from scratch once I realised I needed eight for DAI. (Two genders + four races = eight Inquisitors. Although as it turns out, both my humans are probably going to be female anyway.)

[riverbanks]

The only thing I changed about my 'canon' world state was Anders' fate, because of its effect on the Sebastian romance. If Anders is alive - as he was in my world state - you can't select the 'romanced Sebastian' option. There's no 'romanced Sebastian right up until he demanded Hawke kill her friend, resulting in a rather dramatic break-up' tile. I couldn't stand the thought of Sebastian maybe showing up and behaving as if he never loved Hawke, so I retroactively killed Anders. Now that I know Sebastian doesn't appear physically and the only changes for the romance are a few lines of dialogue from Hawke and Varric, I'll probably change it back to what actually happened in game when I play my 'canon' Inquisitor again.

 

(....her friend who killed his maternal figure and virtually only family left, so he did kind of have a point in breaking up with Hawke, if she was willing to put her murderous terrorist friend above her own grieving husband/boyfriend. He's not wrong to end this relationship if he's always gonna be second best to Hawke.)

 

Anyway, this choice also changes Sebastian's war table mission. If you spare Anders, Sebastian will still be raving madness four years later and trying to invade and annex Kirkwall to Starkhaven. If you kill Anders, he'll have calmed down by the time of Inquisition, and will be trying to rebuild Kirkwall instead, even rounding up the nobles around the Free Marches to help with coin and work hands for the reconstruction efforts. Anders' relevance to the universe is pretty much over anyway, him being dead or alive means nothing; so that's another thing to consider, if you prefer Sebastian's fate to go this or that way in the end.

[riverbanks]

Oh, and. Seems like I unintentionally lied a little bit in my previous post. Looking through my canon world state reminded me I did change one thing in my canon: my Warden originally killed Connor (or rather let Isolde kill him), but after playing Inquisition, I had to change that to her letting Jowan do the blood ritual to save the kid. Connor being alive and king Alistair getting all paternal and overcompensating on him is the only way I can even begin to comprehend why he and Anora would don the idiot stick and invite another war into their already war-ravaged country, so... with much grumbling about choices not mattering, I did pull a bit of historical revisionism on that.

 

Not as bad as those who feel forced to change major decisions because they don't want to lose Alistair or such, but still a little annoying.

[Ieldra]

I did not change anything in my canon worldstate. However, I changed a few things in my alternative worldlines, for instance I found I had no worldstate where Alistair was a Warden - he was either king or drunk. I wanted to see Alistair in DAI at least once, so I changed this. 

[Iakus]

I haven't changed anything yet.  But my next playthrough may alter some variables and combine certain elements from different playthroughs to see how they interact.

[Andraste_Reborn]

(....her friend who killed his maternal figure and virtually only family left, so he did kind of have a point in breaking up with Hawke, if she was willing to put her murderous terrorist friend above her own grieving husband/boyfriend. He's not wrong to end this relationship if he's always gonna be second best to Hawke.)

 

Oh, I agree entirely. My only problem with Sebastian's reaction to what Anders did is that I think he should have killed Anders his damn self instead of demanding that Hawke do it. I loved the rivalmance between the two of them including the horrible end, which is why I hated the idea of just being wiped out of reality altogether if Hawke didn't kill Anders.

 

My headcanon for my altered world state was that Anders died soon after Meredith - Hawke had thrown him out of the party twice over and everyone was mad with him, maybe he learned to take a hint - and that Sebastian eventually calmed down and patched things up with Hawke. Maybe I'll keep it like that when I replay, but then again, Hawke did tragically sacrifice herself ... (I can't decide what's worse: Anders lives, Sebastian stays angry and Hawke dies without them ever working things out, or Anders dies, they DO finally get their act together after seven years of arguing, and then she runs off throws herself on a giant Fade spider anyway.)

[riverbanks]

My only problem with Sebastian's reaction to what Anders did is that I think he should have killed Anders his damn self instead of demanding that Hawke do it.

 

Then again, if Sebastian had killed Anders himself, we'd have the whole fandom complaining about how it should have been our choice, how Sebastian had stolen our player agency, etc etc (see all the vitriol spewed at Sera about that one quest where she has enough of your waffling and takes matters into her own hands). There's no winning with these scenarios, it seems.

 

... (I can't decide what's worse: Anders lives, Sebastian stays angry and Hawke dies without them ever working things out, or Anders dies, they DO finally get their act together after seven years of arguing, and then she runs off throws herself on a giant Fade spider anyway.)

 

As the owner of a similar world state, in which Alistair chewed Cousland up to the bone over her conscription of Loghain, then had her die in a glorious sacrifice without ever mending things between them, or even properly saying goodbye... do not recommend. It's not fun knowing Cousland died thinking Alistair hated her, it's not fun thinking that Alistair will forever regret not fixing things between them while he still could. If they'd had a chance to patch things up before so my character could at least die in peace, knowing she was still loved despite all the sorry mess their relationship ended up becoming, I would have taken it.

 

That is to say, if I was to sacrifice my Hawke too now, I'd at least let her and Sebastian have a few years of peace before everything goes to hell again. It's better that Sebastian at least had those three-four years between DA2 and DAI with her, than forever regretting what never was.

[Egermano]

Nope, didn't change a thing... though after the Keep scanned my saves, I had to fix some things, it had my PC as a City Elf... I dont have a city elf, no clue where that came from, but as far as the Keep and DAI goes, it appears to have imported my choices correctly.

 

What? The Keep can import saves?

I thought it was character name and appearance only. Anyways, my choices didn't get imported for sure. I actually had to enter my choices manually. I was alt-tabbing between DAO and Keep for two hours...

 

And I didn't change a thing. My first, unspoilered, uninformed playthrough is the canon. That's how I play my games.

[JadeDragon]

I change loghains fate. I did had two canons one with loghain and one without. I went into DAI with loghains alive as my main canon but after seeing how that ended up it seemed like a waste of the friendship my warden had with alister. It always kinda felt wrong not riding into the final battle with alister even though i always made him king but i enjoyed loghain as a companion and learning his side of the story building a mutual ironic respect. But once i had to make a choice with him again i knew i might as well go back and get ride of him in dao. I liked how it kinda made him redeem himself but if i wanted loghain to sacrifice it would have been done 1st game. so i just went with my warden dueling him and his bud alister remaining friends while giving stroud his heroic moment.

[riverbanks]

What? The Keep can import saves?

I thought it was character name and appearance only. Anyways, my choices didn't get imported for sure. I actually had to enter my choices manually. I was alt-tabbing between DAO and Keep for two hours...

 

It doesn't import plot flags. Some people get confused and think it does because their choices are very similar to the default world state, but the Keep still doesn't import anything other than name, race, class, and the little portrait. No way around it but entering your choices manually, as you did.

[ctd757]

I have so many. I think I changed some romances around and that's about it. And I always make Hawke siblings Grey Wardens except once.

[Avejajed]

I just had to make sure there's no way I would ever have to choose between Alistair and Hawke.

 

Not ever.