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[AresKeith]

I mean at least there's a fifty fifty chance of the Maker actually existing.

 

Of course he does, in two forms:

 

 

[Xilizhra]

In layman's terms they became slaves to a nutter who suffers from delusions of grandeur.

Ah, the favor of a kindred spirit.

[ComedicSociopathy]

That was a callback to a quote from Anders in DA2. I personally don't think the Maker was involved.

 

Sorry I didn't catch the reference.

 

Since Bioware flat said that their never going to reveal the existence of the Maker, I stopped giving a crap about theorycrafting whether he's involved in Thedas or not.

 

The guy doesn't matter. 

[Master Warder Z_]

Of course he does, in two forms:

Hardy harr har.

o.o Seriously though decrying the Maker as false when Bioware said there is just as much chance of him existing as not existing is humorous.

[Xilizhra]

Sorry I didn't catch the reference.

 

Since Bioware flat said that their never going to reveal the existence of the Maker, I stopped giving a crap about theorycrafting whether he's involved in Thedas or not.

 

The guy doesn't matter. 

Indeed. I run with the belief that the Maker doesn't exist, because I know it'll never be disproven, and absent proof, not believing in the Maker is more logically viable than believing in it.

[ComedicSociopathy]

I just tired of the Mage/Templar bullcrap

 

The answer to any Mage/Templar argument is thus...

 

They both suck and Rogues should be charge of everything. 

[AresKeith]

The answer to any Mage/Templar argument is thus...

 

They both suck and Rogues should be charge of everything. 

 

Just put competent people like Barris and Vivienne in-charge of the factions

 

And now we wait.....   

[Master Warder Z_]

The answer to any Mage/Templar argument is thus...

They both suck and Rogues should be charge of everything.

Templars have rogues o.o

[Raoni Luna]

You know a franchise is dead when there is time travelling. That's the reason I can't take Dr. Who or Marvel/DC Comics stories seriously. Funny but makes everything stupid and retarded, no matter how rare or special you make it. Time travelling = death of a story.

That being said, fade sequence while choosing templar is way better than anything in mage playthrough. It is so much better than even I that hated templar to the point that I never was able to side with templars in DAO/2 choose templars in Inquisition. First time I sided with mages of course and it was so muhc full of bullshit that I had to try templars on the second playthrough, now most of my playthroughs are templar-sided. I ignore they are evil, retarded, imbecile, addicted dictators and that's it. Well I have to ignore most of the game to enjoy it anyway.

Know what? Ignore everything and make up some interesting story in your mind, as much as you fill it with magic ponies and tinker bells it will still be better than what you will see on Inquisition. At least talking to Bull is less degrading than watching 50 shades of gray. Barely.

[Cespar]

Sorry I didn't catch the reference.

 

Since Bioware flat said that their never going to reveal the existence of the Maker, I stopped giving a crap about theorycrafting whether he's involved in Thedas or not.

 

The guy doesn't matter. 

I like this approach. My characters believe that the maker is real, just as I believe God is real. 

 

I like that people can also be atheist in Dragon Age, just like in real life. 

[AresKeith]

I was honestly expecting time manipulation to appear in DA since Tevinter like experimenting with Magic

 

However with Alexius and full on time travel? I call bull on that one 

[Master Warder Z_]

o.o The Makers glory shall shine down upon the righteous and cast the faithless into oblivion.

I'm sort of glad he's the only real God again.

The elven gods made things...inconvenient.

[Cespar]

I was honestly expecting time manipulation to appear in DA since Tevinter like experimenting with Magic

 

However with Alexius and full on time travel? I call bull on that one 

Time traveling was only possible while the Breach was in the sky. 

[AresKeith]

Time traveling was only possible while the Breach was in the sky. 

 

That's why I was able to handwave it and move on lol 

 

I do hope they touch on time manipulation if we go to Tevinter 

[Master Warder Z_]

Time traveling was only possible while the Breach was in the sky.

Not exactly true, not exactly false.

It's still rubbish in a setting though.

[Xilizhra]

o.o The Makers glory shall shine down upon the righteous and cast the faithless into oblivion.

I'm sort of glad he's the only real God again.

The elven gods made things...inconvenient.

That strikes me as unlikely, especially since the templars will never be relevant again, even if you kept them alive.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Indeed. I run with the belief that the Maker doesn't exist, because I know it'll never be disproven, and absent proof, not believing in the Maker is more logically viable than believing in it.

Especially when you consider that the Chantry believes that the Maker already abandoned the world. If they believe that, then the supposed miracles the Maker performs just ring hollow considering they believe he already abandoned humanity.

 

As for me, I believe the Maker is either lyrium or the blight, or a case of combining various actions of various powers as one deity.

[Cespar]

Not exactly true, not exactly false.

 

What do you mean? 

[thesuperdarkone2]

That strikes me as unlikely, especially since the templars will never be relevant again, even if you kept them alive.

Yeah, considering the Templar Order can be completely destroyed and permanently disbanded, they'll likely not be relevant, especially since one of the devs said that this will be the last game that has mage/templar issues in the limelight. Hence, enjoy the fighting as this will be the last game to give any relevance to the mage/templar debate.

[Master Warder Z_]

That strikes me as unlikely

Ohh did you miss that bit? Turns out the elven gods aren't Gods in the sense that deserve actual veneration

Just war leaders, politicians and such.

Powerful sure but not immortal, not all powerful and certainly not omnipresent.

So the Maker by default is the only possible remaining true God

[Cespar]

That's why I was able to handwave it and move on lol 

 

I do hope they touch on time manipulation if we go to Tevinter 

"If!!?" Gurl bye.

 

Seriously, I think Tevinter(north) is the next stop on the Dragon Age Train. The south has the inquisition to look out for it, while the north still has lots of unresolved issues waiting for a hero to solve them. 

[Xilizhra]

Ohh did you miss that bit? Turns out the elven gods aren't Gods in the sense that deserve actual veneration

Just war leaders, politicians and such.

Powerful sure but not immortal, not all powerful and certainly not omnipresent.

So the Maker by default is the only possible remaining true God

Er, polytheistic pantheons do generally have gods who aren't omnipresent, and they can sometimes be killed. Most of this, we sort of already knew or could gather.

 

At least they, unlike the Maker, have the advantage of existing.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

 

Seemed like an appropriate comic to link at this time.

[Master Warder Z_]

What do you mean?

The notes were insufferably vague but visit the Still Ruins in the Western Approach.

[thesuperdarkone2]

Ohh did you miss that bit? Turns out the elven gods aren't Gods in the sense that deserve actual veneration

Just war leaders, politicians and such.

Powerful sure but not immortal, not all powerful and certainly not omnipresent.

So the Maker by default is the only possible remaining true God

The Stone, especially considering lyrium is alive, plus rock wraiths and the corruption of the stone being a thing.