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[Gervaise]

By the time I got this conversation I believe Dorian was already hinting about thinking of returning to Tevinter, so it seemed a good idea not to upset them, even though he ultimately chose not to go.   My Dalish had somewhat revised their world view bearing in mind everything we learnt over the course of the game.   He may not like Tevinter but he hates the Qun even more, so it is probably expedient to build some sort of relationship with the former in case we need to work together against the latter.   In this case, we are attacking the Venetori on behalf of the Archon, which seems to be sending the right sort of message to Tevinter and the rest of Thedas.    We deal with Tevinter because they do not support the Venetori, Tevinter supremists.     Josephine seemed to think it would benefit us more supporting Tevinter than Nevarra and that is what we have advisors for.

 

When all is said and done, I didn't particularly like dealing with Orlais, although I did enjoy making Gaspard a puppet Emperor under Briala.     In the epilogue I still have the respect of the Orlesian court, so clearly anything I did with regard to Tevinter has not harmed my reputation in the south.    As Nightscrawl says above, by taking certain actions you can start having an influence in Tevinter in a positive way, that could not be achieved simply by being aggressive and antagonistic.    The Magisters are far more likely to listen to someone they regard as helpful, than someone who seems to be merely trying to tear them down.     Eventually this diplomacy may bear fruit in allowing more moderate and reformist voices to be heard in the Imperium.

[Heimdall]

I like to remember this quote : "Whoever we were before, we are now the Inquisition". That may help unless you play a Dalish who doesn't really want to be the Inquisitor, I suppose.

Even so... It's Tevinter, they still have elven slaves.  I'm not playing my Inquisitor that pragmatically.

[Dutchess]

I followed Josie's advice and allied with Tevinter. More to gain if I remember correctly. And it could be a first step towards more peaceful relationships between Tevinter and southern Thedas.

 

I'm sure the slave trade will be pleased.

[nebu187]

According to Fenris, and some dialogue between the Iron Bull & Dorian, the Qunari do not in any way consider Tevinter to be a true threat. The so-called Tevinter-Qunari 'war' is a misnomer, so I doubt that the Vints could be a valuable ally to an Inquisitor looking to implement anti-Qunari policies. And, sure, the enemy of my enemy might well be my friend, but aiding Tevinter just seemed like a betrayal, given the actions I'd taken in the previous two games, such as killing Danarius and Caladrius, etc. It is for these reasons that my dwarf chose Nevarra.

[Precursor Meta]

Hmm necro-topia or Slave-tropolis?

[Qun00]

I thought that Josephine gave sound advice, and I go along with her on it. King Markus is old with waning power, so this will be a one sided alliance, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread. Also, I consider that I've already helped Markus by completing the war table mission The Serpent of Nevarra, so I can afford to overlook him in favor of Tevinter.
 
You are given numerous opportunities to deal with Tevinter throughout the game, mostly through war table operations. I typically try to be "friendly" toward Tevinter because my goal is to show that they are not my enemy, Corypheus and his minions are, and if you're willing to help, or at least won't stand in my way, then we have no problems.
 
To that end I...
* Lend Magister Tilani political influence through Josephine rather than use threats.
* Allow Cullen to send "real" templars to deal with the attackers. The result is humorous, and also shows them we aren't f-ing around.
* Do send Movran north to gnat Tevinter, but then leave the Avvar to their own devices.
* Allow Josephine to bribe the Grand Archivist with gifts rather than steal or threaten.
* Follow Leliana's suggestion and send House Amladaris the information as a gesture of goodwill.
* Have the pleasure of letting the nerds at the Minrathous Circle geek out over translating the ancient texts I discovered. [Yes, I know there are no options for this one, but I still count it as showing the Inquisition's worth.]
* Allow both Servis and Alexius to live and recruit them to work for the Inquisition. I believe Alexius is no longer a threat and Servis was hired by a third party and is not loyal to Corpypheus, so I feel that not using them is a waste. They each have valuable information and contacts in the Imperium to make use of.
* Stop a war between Tevinter and Nevarra.
 
 
Back to this mission... For me there are some pros to helping Tevinter that don't come into play if you help Nevarra. I believe that having Tevinter as a friend, or at least as a non-enemy, is far better than the reverse. I like the idea of showing my strength without posturing, because that would just cause more Magisters to turn to the Venatori. This is a chance to show Inquisition military power near the Tevinter borders without directly threatening Tevinter itself, and you'd better believe they'll be watching. Siding with the archon against the Venatori sends a message to the Venatori as well as their supporters within Tevinter. It also makes a tentative ally of the archon himself.
 
We're all using each other and we all know it, but as long as the Venatori and Corypheus are on the losing side I'm fine with that.
 
And far down the line of considerations -- I won't pretend it's not in my mind at all -- if my dealings with Tevinter happen to benefit my boyfriend some time in the future if or when he returns to Tevinter, then that is also a pro.

But here's the thing... even the magisters who oppose the Venatori still have no qualms about performing human sacrifices.

Even Dorian admits those who are against such practices are the minority in Tevinter. There obviously are exceptions, but as a whole they're disgusting.

So you think, "your mind is made up, then".

Not really. I don't want my character to seem like a hypocrite after telling Dorian she didn't care about the bad rep the Inquisition was getting somewhere for associating itself with a Tevinter mage.

[The Baconer]

I'm sure the slave trade will be pleased.

 

Probably.

 

Where do you think a good chunk of them come from already? :>

[Cadeym]

Nevarra is located between Orlais and Tevinter.. which makes it an essential buffer zone/shield for when I declare an exalted march on the vints.

[Augustei]

I thought that Josephine gave sound advice, and I go along with her on it. King Markus is old with waning power, so this will be a one sided alliance, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread. Also, I consider that I've already helped Markus by completing the war table mission The Serpent of Nevarra, so I can afford to overlook him in favor of Tevinter.

 

Markus may be an old waning power, But Nevarra itself is still very powerful and rumored to rival Orlais (disputed). It could be viewed as more an alliance with the nation state and not the Archon / King, thus allying with the Archon could be a slight against not Just Markus but the Nevarran nobility as well.

[Unpleasant Implications]

Nevarra bred Cassandra. Tevinter bred Dorian. Both are male only love interests.

I care not.

[Qun00]

Sounds like a pro for both.

[SwobyJ]

I'm not there yet, but Nevarra.

 

I don't support Tevinter unless I have to, and I don't support Qunari period. I don't care about Tevinter being a 'buffer' to Qunari. Bring them on.

 

And I kinda like Nevarra (its faults and all) from what I hear about it, and I want to explore it.

 

Go Nevarra.

[nightscrawl]

Nevarra bred Cassandra. Tevinter bred Dorian. Both are male only love interests.

I care not.

 

Sounds like a pro for both.

Hah well if I were going by this factor alone... TEVINTER ALL THE WAY!