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[Jeremiah12LGeek]

Can you imagine if the SP was as good as the MP?  My God, what a game it would have been!  

I don't know about all of you, but I played the crap out of ME1 & ME2, thinking each permutation would offer a fresh ending which would justify all the different paths I chose throughout.

 

I played ME3 SP just once.  

 

Thank goodness for the MP, huh?  I can honestly say that still love it, even though I don't really play anymore.  I'd say that, for a single gametype, PVE game, it was wildly successful and well worth the time and money.  It was an experience as pleasurable and addictive as the other SPs were to me.

 

Except for Collectors.

 

 

 

 

 

With a slight edit.

[Tupari]

Can you imagine if the SP was as good as the MP?  

 

I actually liked them both equally. 

[wolfhowwl]

I blame the inclusion of MP for forcing BioWare to improve the combat.

 

It's simply too good to be a TRUE RPG like ME1 was. Shitty obtuse mechanics is all that separates us true elite RPG fans from the plebian dudebro masses.

[Catastrophy]

This game has SP?

[RopeDrink]

ME3 is one of a handful of games where the sub-content // MP aspect of it far outlasted singleplayer (for me). The other main offender in this regard is Resident Evil 6. As a Mercenaries lover (all the way back to RE3 [or even RE2-Survivor mode if you want to get technical), I fell in love with ME3 MP as it has that same feeling as RE-Mercs mini-modes - and I've clocked 600+ hours on steam for RE6 NoMercy Mercenaries alone. I've cleared ME3-SP once or twice and dropped it like a hot spud once I noticed (and fell in love with) ME3-MP.

 

If people want to pre-emptively complain about ME4-MP (without actually having experienced ME3MP for themselves .ie assume the worst) then it's their loss. Bioware will no doubt have noticed any/all stats for ME3 (might partly explain why DA:I MP is so similar to ME3 MP) - so I feel the reviews will just be discarded as hot air (or at least, I hope so).



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[D Wrecks]

Most people who whine about multiplayer haven't touched it and are subscribers of the irrational notion that multiplayer ruins everything. So basically, their input is worthless. You can usually identify the worst offenders because they demand that, at the very least, single and multiplayer be separate elements -- as if they weren't already separated in Mass Effect 3.

[Aetika]

Can you imagine if the SP was as good as the MP?  My God, what a game it would have been!  

I don't know about all of you, but I played the crap out of ME1 & ME2, thinking each permutation would offer a fresh ending which would justify all the different paths I chose throughout.

 

I played ME3 SP just once.  

 

Thank goodness for the MP, huh?  I can honestly say that still love it, even though I don't really play anymore.  I'd say that, for a single gametype, PVE game, it was wildly successful and well worth the time and money.  It was an experience as pleasurable and addictive as the other SPs were to me.

 

Except for Geth.

 

I just love the little end note about Geth

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

ME3MP is the only console MP I've ever done. Most of my gaming has been in the RPG genre, and story has always been as important to me as mechanics. I was concerned to hear that MP was going to have some effect on the SP play until I heard that it wouldn't be mandatory. I think the problem is that we RPG geeks don't want to feel as though we're going to be shoehorned into another sort of game to make it more similar to a title that sold more units, that's all.

Later on, I found myself disappointed in the story and loving the MP aspect. I also found that I liked the MP community much more. It was nice to be able to discuss some aspect of the game without the conversation being dominated by complaints that one character or another wouldn't be depicted in sexual congress with another. Don't get me wrong: You're all terrible, vicious people who will die alone and unloved, just as you are now--but you seem to lack the creepy sexual attachment to the game and the screaming sense of entitlement the SP community too often displays.

But don't be too hard on the RPG geeks. Those of us who haven't seen that the MP has actually enhanced the game are only afraid that the part we like will be taken away to make the game into something else.

And thanks again for not posting threads about the probable taste of Quarian sweat. I would love you terrible bastards, if it weren't impossible.

Mitigated loathing,

Tantum Dic Verbo

[JGDD]

but you seem to lack the creepy sexual attachment to the game

 

Surely you didn't miss the jiggly era? Creepy attachment transcends SP and MP in some degree or another.

 

Also: cotton candy. That's what I think it tastes like.

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

Surely you didn't miss the jiggly era? Creepy attachment transcends SP and MP in some degree or another.
 
Also: cotton candy. That's what I think it tastes like.

The jiggly stuff compared to the SP sexual fixations is like the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue compared to sadomastic polar-bear porn. With midgets. Maybe midget polar bears.

[JGDD]

The jiggly stuff compared to the SP sexual fixations is like the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue compared to sadomastic polar-bear porn. With midgets. Maybe midget polar bears.

 True. You know you've succeeded in being ultra-creepy when EA/BioWare nukes an entire sub-forum from existence.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Surely you didn't miss the jiggly era? Creepy attachment transcends SP and MP in some degree or another.

 

Also: cotton candy. That's what I think it tastes like.

What is this era which you speak of? MP was always about the buffing and the nerfing and the e-peen, from what I remember.

[JGDD]

Jiggly bum-bum. It happened. It was awesome.

 

But like all things, too much was too much. The powers that be ended the flood of gifs, images, and general mayhem that followed. MP forum was so serious back then that anything not directly related to the Lord High Nerfbat was frowned upon.

[Quarian Master Race]

No, you can't. You have to have the Extended Cut DLC at a minimum. The Extended Cut lowers the threshold for the 'breath' scene at the end of high EMS destroy from 5300 (unreachable without multiplayer or other DLC even if you do everything and follow the guides to max out your war assets through story decisions) to 4100.

Pardon me, you have to download free DLC that has been out for....a few years now and that additionally makes the ending not nearly as crap. Why would you not do that anyway?

I didn't think it was necessary to specify paid DLC, but I won't make that mistake again lest I be attacked by more pedants.

 

As an ignorant antisocial neckbeard who hates everything social (and also large groups of people, smaller groups of persons or persons, ....), I find this offensive!

I enjoy ME3MP very much -you know, while doing the 'not associating' thing

There's nothing wrong with being introverted. Being antisocial is a legitimate personality disorder that involves a disregard for others and poor impulse control. There is a difference.

[Miniditka77]

Hours of grinding is something that is hard to love.

 

ME3MP never feels like "grinding" to me, because I play for the variety and fun it provides.  If it ever felt like I was grinding to max my manifest or complete a challenge, I would just quit.

[Quarian Master Race]

And thanks again for not posting threads about the probable taste of Quarian sweat. I would love you terrible bastards, if it weren't impossible.
 

You should probably not read my posts if you want to maintain this rosy view.

[GruntKitterhand]

Can you imagine if the SP was as good as the MP?  My God, what a game it would have been!  

I don't know about all of you, but I played the crap out of ME1 & ME2, thinking each permutation would offer a fresh ending which would justify all the different paths I chose throughout.

 

I played ME3 SP just once.  

 

This saddens me, on your behalf.  At the risk of coming across as patronising, I do have a tip for you and anyone else who struggles with the endings to the extent that they totally spoil your overall enjoyment of the SP game.

 

My way of dealing with the SP ending(s) was to remember the scene in Fletch, with the following dialogue:

 

Doc: You know, it's a shame about Ed.

Fletch: Oh it was.  Yeah, it was really a shame.  To go so suddenly like that.

Doc: He was dying for years.

Fletch: Sure but..... the end was very....... very sudden.

Doc: He was in intensive care for eight weeks.

Fletch: Yeah, but I mean the very end, when he actually died. That was extremely sudden.

 

I have nine different Shepards, all chilling out on the Citadel with their squads before the assault on the Illusive Man's base. Some of them may go on to play out the endgame (again), while others will just hang out in and around the Arena.  If they do go on to the end, it is certain at this stage they will choose the Destroy option with no hesitation.  Sorry EDI, casualty of war.  Sorry Geth, your sacrifice will be remembered.  Sorry Mass Relays, time to get you guys up and running again - shouldn't be too difficult, what with the entire galaxy united, right?  In time, Shepard will rise.  Maybe not in ME-Next, but sometime.  Maybe with a hidden identity, ultimately forced out of retirement by a new threat to the galaxy.  (Dark energy, anyone?)  Just wait and see.  That's how my imagination works anyway, no biggie if it never happens.

 

I, like most sane people, generally avoid entering debates about the Mass Effect endings, but every now and again I feel obliged to point out, for the benefit of anyone who was never actually aware of Casey Hudson's pre-release claims, it is possible to play the Trilogy and enjoy it from start to finish.  It doesn't make you a moron, and you shouldn't feel ashamed.  It is of course essential that you include the (free) Extended Cut dlc, and (misgivings about day one dlc notwithstanding) the From Ashes dlc opens up the possibility of having Javik with you on the Citadel (as well as all the other missions).  The Citadel dlc is without any shadow of doubt the best dlc available for Mass Effect or any other game on the market. It's that good - even the NPC dialogue is better than that of most games' main characters.

 

For those of you who were aware of Casey Hudson's pre-release claims, I can only sympathise.  And I accept that there probably is no getting over that experience, which must have been discombobulating.  I wasn't, as I cut myself off from the outside world in general, and internet in particular, so that I could experience the game without the opinions of others having any bearing on my enjoyment.  I'll do exactly the same thing on day of release next time too.

 

As this thread is primarily about MP, I will also add that I was completely and utterly against the very concept of an RPG including MP.  Then I played it.  I was wrong.  So totally wrong.

[Conduit0]

I blame the inclusion of MP for forcing BioWare to improve the combat.
 
It's simply too good to be a TRUE RPG like ME1 was. Shitty obtuse mechanics is all that separates us true elite RPG fans from the plebian dudebro masses.

 If you don't keep a slide rule next to your keyboard for calculating builds, you're not a true RPG fan.
 

Jiggly bum-bum. It happened. It was awesome.
 
But like all things, too much was too much. The powers that be ended the flood of gifs, images, and general mayhem that followed. MP forum was so serious back then that anything not directly related to the Lord High Nerfbat was frowned upon.

To this day my QFE and QFI are still named Jiggly and Bumbum respectively.

[Dunmer of Redoran]

Jiggly bum-bum. It happened. It was awesome.

 

But like all things, too much was too much. The powers that be ended the flood of gifs, images, and general mayhem that followed. MP forum was so serious back then that anything not directly related to the Lord High Nerfbat was frowned upon.

Oh that thing. Was that really a MP thing? I don't remember anything in MP other than balance extravaganzas.

[Mindlog]

you crazy MOFO

where do you find all these?

 

[SwoopIM]

Lots of folks berate things they do not really understand and know little about. I had played ME1 and 2 and was into the SP story.  I stumbled into ME3MP because I just wanted to maximize readiness for the best ending (Ha!  Laugh's on me--it didn't matter).  I was thinking that Bioware could really have just not put this MP thing into the game and I would have been fine with that.  I figured I'll give it a shot.  Man, I almost never finished the SP game once I got into the MP.  I got more than my money's worth with the MP part of the game alone.  Now I'm waiting for ME4 for the MP ...and if they put in SP, that's ok too.

[Deadarth]

I got more than my money's worth with the MP part of the game alone.  Now I'm waiting for ME4 for the MP ...and if they put in SP, that's ok too.

That's exactly how I feel about ME4

[Clips7]

When i first heard about them adding MP..i initially stated "noooo" they are going to ruin ME3! This game however was my first MP experience and i cannot believe how addicting it is...Bioware proved me wrong and i have been playing this game ever since. it's incredibly addicting.....when my original ME3 disk cracked a couple of months ago, it felt like i was going through a withdraw or something because i was feenin' to play it. 

 

i too have only played the SP campaign once, but once i tried MP, i've been playing it everyday....

[NuclearTech76]

http://forum.bioware...ve-multiplayer/

Here's a thread in the SP forums about the same thing, but with the opposite bent in the OP.

To answer your question, IMO it is ignorant, antisocial neckbeards who hate everything social, who are equating everything that has multiplayer with FPS culture and froth at the mouth even though they don't even have to play it or associate with anyone who does. This despite the fact that ME3MP is not a competitive game at all.

You will notice that most of the arguments about MP "taking resources from Singleplayer" and whatnot are debunked specifically by  the seperate teams that worked on both ME3MP and DAMP, but the same anti MP posters persist in their arguments. I suppose they are following the old adage "a lie told often enough becomes the truth".

Yeah I spent about two minutes over there in that thread and wanted to beat someone to death with a phone book. 

[Quarian Master Race]

Yeah I spent about two minutes over there in that thread and wanted to beat someone to death with a phone book. 

The entire SP section often elicits the same sort of emotions for me, which is why I try to avoid it except for joke/troll posts about quarian things. By and large it is a bunch of people posting in a forum for a game that they seem to hate with every fiber of their being.

I did post once in that thread about the MP having a separate team hired specifically for working on it and thus not taking away from SP resources. I imagine by now some neckbeard has posted with all caps in response, detailing the alleged promiscuity of my mother. I haven't looked