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[gottaloveme]

This will be my third pt  and I would like to know the best team config for my vanguard Shep. The last pt I only lost one team member. There are team members I definitely don't want to lose which means I can give or take Jacob, Miranda and Jack. (I don't like Jack's effect on the Grissom kids). So, I guess I'm going tor an achievement. Twice now it has been whoever was in the duct is the one who dies, is this always so and does it hinge on getting to all the consoles quickly? (Damn Harbinger)

[themikefest]

Recruit everyone and do all loyalty missions and get all ship upgrades. It makes the mission a lot easier

 

This is what I would do if all are recruited and loyal

 

Kasumi/Legion/Tali - vent

Garrus/Miranda/Jacob - fireteam leader both times

Mordin - escorts crew back to the Normandy

Samara/Jack - barrier

Jack and Tali - fight the baby reaper

 

everyone survives

[themikefest]

Here's a thread that gives all the information needed to survive the suicide mission

[cap and gown]

Recruit everyone and do all loyalty missions and get all ship upgrades. It makes the mission a lot easier

 

This is what I would do if all are recruited and loyal

 

Kasumi/Legion/Tali - vent

Garrus/Miranda/Jacob - fireteam leader both times

Mordin - escorts crew back to the Normandy

Samara/Jack - barrier

Jack and Tali - fight the baby reaper

 

everyone survives

 

This if fine up until the Jack and Tali part. I mean, its OK on normal difficulty where you can deal with the final boss and Harbinger by yourself, but it will make things much more painful at higher difficulty levels. The key to the final fight is to simply not take Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed. If you leave those three behind, and they are loyal, everyone you leave behind will survive. Better candidates to fly off with Shepard are Samara (Reave), Miranda and Thane (Warp), and Mordin (Incinerate).

[themikefest]

This if fine up until the Jack and Tali part. I mean, its OK on normal difficulty where you can deal with the final boss and Harbinger by yourself, but it will make things much more painful at higher difficulty levels. The key to the final fight is to simply not take Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed. If you leave those three behind, and they are loyal, everyone you leave behind will survive. Better candidates to fly off with Shepard are Samara (Reave), Miranda and Thane (Warp), and Mordin (Incinerate).

 I've taken Grunt and Zaeed to fight and everyone holding the line survived. I only did that when I had all 12 recruited and loyal

 

I don't recall who I took with me for the final fight on my insanity runs(only 2).

 

I only mentioned Tali and Jack so that all the stronger squadmates can hold the line

[sjsharp2011]

Recruit everyone and do all loyalty missions and get all ship upgrades. It makes the mission a lot easier
 
This is what I would do if all are recruited and loyal
 
Kasumi/Legion/Tali - vent
Garrus/Miranda/Jacob - fireteam leader both times
Mordin - escorts crew back to the Normandy
Samara/Jack - barrier
Jack and Tali - fight the baby reaper
 
everyone survives

Yeah that's the approach I normally take on the game except for I normally take Garrus/Miranda over jack on the reaper part. Other than that I pretty much use the same approach as you

[Vazgen]

Yeah that's the approach I normally take on the game except for I normally take Garrus/Miranda over jack on the reaper part. Other than that I pretty much use the same approach as you

I take Thane with me during the Suicide Mission. That way Shepard's speech in Citadel DLC about him and Thane saving each other's lives has more impact. Especially if Shepard pulls Thane up after defeating the hurr-durr Reaper.

 

P.S. I got that scene once but was not able to replicate it, is there any way to ensure that Thane is the one Shepard pulls up?

[sjsharp2011]

I take Thane with me during the Suicide Mission. That way Shepard's speech in Citadel DLC about him and Thane saving each other's lives has more impact. Especially if Shepard pulls Thane up after defeating the hurr-durr Reaper.
 
P.S. I got that scene once but was not able to replicate it, is there any way to ensure that Thane is the one Shepard pulls up?

I've had Thane with me once on that section before but I don't think I've ever had that happen no. I was thinking next time I do a femshep playthrough I might try something with him not sure yet though. Playing through as a male shep atm.

[themikefest]

For me, its usually, not always, the squadmate that survives fighting the human reaper that pulls me up. I don't know what determines which  squadmate pulls Shepard up. It could be the number of missions that squadmate has been taken on.

[cap and gown]

I take Thane with me during the Suicide Mission. That way Shepard's speech in Citadel DLC about him and Thane saving each other's lives has more impact. Especially if Shepard pulls Thane up after defeating the hurr-durr Reaper.

 

P.S. I got that scene once but was not able to replicate it, is there any way to ensure that Thane is the one Shepard pulls up?

 

Check the SM guide, but I believe the first squad mate you pick is the one that Shepard catches as they go over the edge and pulls you up..

[Vazgen]

Found this in a guide (actually the guide links to the old forums and clicking the link does not lead to the exact reply. I googled it and found a gamefaqs thread with quote from that exact post)

 

Shepard Catches a Squadmate Falling Down the Platform

- Shepard will catch the squadmate whose icon is on the RIGHT.

- If your final battle required a reload, the icons can sometimes switch places. Shepard will catch the squadmate whose icon is currently on the RIGHT

 

Other Stuff

- The squadmate whose icon is on the LEFT will be the one who uses the omnitool for the Illusive Man's communication except for when Miranda is present.

- Regardless of her icon position, Miranda will always be the one using the omnitool.

- The squadmate whose icon is on the RIGHT will be the one who hands Shepard the device that either blows up/clears out the base.

[cap and gown]

The "squad mate on the right" is the first squad mate you pick.

[gottaloveme]

I guess the thing is to download Kasumi. I want to keep Tali and Legion alive so I can have geth/Quarian alliances in ME3. So far, 2/2 with dead man crawling. How do we keep the duct rat alive once they're out of there?

[themikefest]

I guess the thing is to download Kasumi. I want to keep Tali and Legion alive so I can have geth/Quarian alliances in ME3. So far, 2/2 with dead man crawling. How do we keep the duct rat alive once they're out of there?

If everyone is loyal, send whoever to escort the crew back to the Normandy. All will survive. Have Samara/Jack do the barrier and the 2 squadmates that go with Shepard will survive

 

Have Garrus/Miranda/Jacob be the 2nd fireteam leader. That squadmate along with the others will survivie. You can if you like, bring Legion and Tali to fight the human reaper with both surviving. 

[cap and gown]

I guess the thing is to download Kasumi. I want to keep Tali and Legion alive so I can have geth/Quarian alliances in ME3. So far, 2/2 with dead man crawling. How do we keep the duct rat alive once they're out of there?

 

You don't need Kasumi. Send either loyal Tali or Legion down the tube with either loyal Garrus, Jacob or Miranda as second fire team lead. Your vent specialist will survive.

 

I would recommend, just to be safe, sending Tali back with the crew. Also be sure to keep Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed off you final team.

[sjsharp2011]

For me, its usually, not always, the squadmate that survives fighting the human reaper that pulls me up. I don't know what determines which  squadmate pulls Shepard up. It could be the number of missions that squadmate has been taken on.

Same here but I think we all mix things upa bit every now and then to see what happens. I know I do anyway.

[Vazgen]

Same here but I think we all mix things upa bit every now and then to see what happens. I know I do anyway.

IIRC, the one whom Shepard pulls up on the platform is the same one who pulls Shepard up on the Normandy

[themikefest]

If both squadmates survive fighting the terminator, the icon on the left will be the one who pulls Shepard up into the Normandy. If only one of the 2 survive, it will be that squadmate that pulls Shepard up. If both are killed, then I have no idea how its determined who helps Shepard.

[a_mouse]

The key to the final fight is to simply not take Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed. If you leave those three behind, and they are loyal, everyone you leave behind will survive. Better candidates to fly off with Shepard are Samara (Reave), Miranda and Thane (Warp), and Mordin (Incinerate).

^This.  However, I've read (but never tested this myself) that at level 30 Samara's Area Reave cannot pull down the entire barrier off a collector anymore.  For Vanguard (which already has Pull for setting up Warp bombs), Thane + Miranda is a particularly good choice since they are monstrous against barriers and armor, and allow triple combination Warp bombs (warp - pull - warp).  

[capn233]

 

Found this in a guide (actually the guide links to the old forums and clicking the link does not lead to the exact reply. I googled it and found a gamefaqs thread with quote from that exact post)

 

Shepard Catches a Squadmate Falling Down the Platform

- Shepard will catch the squadmate whose icon is on the RIGHT.

- If your final battle required a reload, the icons can sometimes switch places. Shepard will catch the squadmate whose icon is currently on the RIGHT

 

Other Stuff

- The squadmate whose icon is on the LEFT will be the one who uses the omnitool for the Illusive Man's communication except for when Miranda is present.

- Regardless of her icon position, Miranda will always be the one using the omnitool.

- The squadmate whose icon is on the RIGHT will be the one who hands Shepard the device that either blows up/clears out the base.

 

 

I believe this is correct.  I also used the load trick to record catching both Miranda and Samara one time I took them both.

 

^This.  However, I've read (but never tested this myself) that at level 30 Samara's Area Reave cannot pull down the entire barrier off a collector anymore.  For Vanguard (which already has Pull for setting up Warp bombs), Thane + Miranda is a particularly good choice since they are monstrous against barriers and armor, and allow triple combination Warp bombs (warp - pull - warp).  

 

Yes.  Samara w/ Area Reave can't strip basic armor or barriers at Level 30 since she doesn't have enough power damage or duration upgrades.  Shepard can though.  As such, if you want her to insta strip barriers you need to go Heavy Reave, or switch her to CC or finisher and not worry about barrier damage.

[caradoc2000]

How can it be a suicide mission if you survive it?

 

Hazardous mission perhaps, perilous mission mayhap, but never a suicide mission.

[KrrKs]

How can it be a suicide mission if you survive it?

 

Hazardous mission perhaps, perilous mission mayhap, but never a suicide mission.

'Suicide Missions' still sounds way better than: 'A mission slightly more dangerous than what you did last Wednesday'

[Vazgen]

It should've been called a "Stupid Mission"

[sjsharp2011]

How can it be a suicide mission if you survive it?
 
Hazardous mission perhaps, perilous mission mayhap, but never a suicide mission.

Because nobody had been successful in achieving it before Shepard did that's why it was called a suicide mission still it's a challenging mission and a fun one. So all things considered it was good.

[cap and gown]

How can it be a suicide mission if you survive it?

 

Hazardous mission perhaps, perilous mission mayhap, but never a suicide mission.

 

Well, if you asked the crew of the Love Boat Normandy, skippered by Tristan "fail-shep" Shepard, it was a suicide mission. I am sure that Kelly, Gabby, Ken, Gardner, Chakwas, Hawthorne, Jacob, Miranda, Thane, Kasumi, Jack, Zaeed, and Samara would call it a suicide mission if they still could call it anything. It was especially suicidal signing up with Tristan considering he had gotten most of his unit on Torfan killed. The dude has a history of getting people killed, even more so than Tali!

 

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