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#51
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I've been wondering to myself how much of his general approval may have been based on him declaring Krem is a 'real man.' How much of it might be based on him validating transgender people.

 

I found him to be pretty uninteresting, personally. Prinze's accent didn't help much; he did a far more compelling job as Vega.

 

 

Agreed. And I remember being SUPER bummed when I found out I couldn't romance Vega. :pinched:



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But yeah, I'm guessing the laissez faire and utilitarian approach the Qunari have when it comes to relationships may explain why there isn't much bonding outside of those key moments. I would've liked something akin to what you were able to do with Sera - sitting on the roof - because it actually gave us something to pass our time aside from kissing them. Maybe whacking him with that stick for a bit would be fun.

I was very happy with Sera's romance. It was an easier task I think because there weren't the same barriers between the two that occur between a Tal-Vashok mage and qunari. Hell, I was playing a female qunari so Sera was especially pleased. There are tensions when you play a Dalish, and it gets addressed (good writing) to the point the relationship can actually end after the Temple of Mythal.

 

I suppose the Iron Bull romance not going into the issues I've presented allows it to be more light-hearted, and that's what many people want I guess.


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EDIT: Romancing him while you have an alliance with the Qunari (sacrificing the chargers) is probably the worst path you can take in his romance, you're essentially erasing his humanity to turn him into just another mindless follower of the Qun. 

I did it for the inquisition! :P


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I liked the romance with IB because he is a nuanced character and has more complex thoughts than one would assume an 8 ft tall slab of muscles (and pillowy man boobs) would have.  I think as a person his motivations are pretty straight forward and you don't have to deal with his issues like you do Sera or a secretive nature like Solas.  I like that he has a well thought out safe word and is completely okay with your inquisitor using it.  I also like that like a river he seems pretty calm on top but tends to run deeper emotionally once you get past the surface (even if that surface is filled with swear words).  My inner romantic at heart will always drift toward Cullen, but I think IB is surprisingly sweet.  


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Bull is the one character I never flirt with nor have I entertained the idea of romancing him even in the least. I just can't see it. I can't wrap my head around it. I've done all other relationships at this point but I will never romance Bull.

I feel the same way about Blackwall. Seems a nice enough guy but just not my type.



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I was very happy with Sera's romance. It was an easier task I think because there weren't the same barriers between the two that occur between a Tal-Vashok mage and qunari. Hell, I was playing a female qunari so Sera was especially pleased. There are tensions when you play a Dalish, and it gets addressed (good writing) to the point the relationship can actually end after the Temple of Mythal.

 

I suppose the Iron Bull romance not going into the issues I've presented allows it to be more light-hearted, and that's what many people want I guess.

 

Yeah, Sera has grown on me. Re: Bull there's nothing that can't be improved. I think some of the things you brought up were perfectly valid. Yeah, I'm currently going steady with her as a Fem Qunari Mortalitasi. Her personal quest was so original too.



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the average player is a straight male

 

we think romancing him is funny and is our entry level point into gay romances



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It's popular? News to me.



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I was very happy with Sera's romance. It was an easier task I think because there weren't the same barriers between the two that occur between a Tal-Vashok mage and qunari. Hell, I was playing a female qunari so Sera was especially pleased. There are tensions when you play a Dalish, and it gets addressed (good writing) to the point the relationship can actually end after the Temple of Mythal.

I suppose the Iron Bull romance not going into the issues I've presented allows it to be more light-hearted, and that's what many people want I guess.


I think Sera's romance has to address it, because unlike Bull (and more like Fenris) her love being Dalish or magey is actually personally threatening to her. Bull just doesn't find it that way. He keeps his issues confined to himself, and he doesn't interpret other people's identities as a threat to him. I think that's due to personality, but also the way he was raised. He's more concerned with filling his own role, other people's roles are theirs to figure out. (This is why he is such a special case with the Ben Hassrath, because he would make a very bad traditional one, and the Qunari know that, but they're not sure how to help him since he can't be a traditional Qunari warrior due to his trauma. It shows surprising and welcome flexibility on their part).

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I wonder if some of it is just due to the fact that they are trying to accommodate so many different races/genders? Bull is available to any gender/race combo so I can imagine his romance being written with that in mind. Given the amount of romance scenes they had the budget for, maybe they had to keep him a bit more neutral? Contrast that with the Solas romance (also written by Weekes), but gated to just elven females--that romance arc benefited a lot from the gating, allowing the writer to give a more tailored story.

Generally I think DAI comes a long way from DAO and DA2 providing more reactivity to your race/class. DAO didn't have a whole lot outside of the origin stories. DA2 had only one playable race, but I do remember some different dialogue if you were a mage...the friendship/rivalry really added something to companion relationships I thought. DAI stepped it up adding more references to your race/class. But you can still tell it was written first with a human in mind, and bioware still have a ways to go before I'd call it a seamless experience with multiple races. I liked the dialogue perks you could get for things like arcane knowledge or history. That is a one feature I would like to see more of in future games.

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I think that players might be attracted to the funny and outrageous moments of Bull's romance arc. Personally, I like Bull as a companion because he is so much more than he appears to be. Than being said, I haven't romanced him. Cullen always snags my Quizzy's attention :P

 

But, to illustrate what I mean about Bull being more than what he appears, I give you the chess game between him and Solas:

 


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Yeah, Sera has grown on me. Re: Bull there's nothing that can't be improved. I think some of the things you brought up were perfectly valid. Yeah, I'm currently going steady with her as a Fem Qunari Mortalitasi. Her personal quest was so original too.

I played a fem Qunari mortalitasi as well. When I made the character I didn't even know if I'd finish it but by the end I felt really sad the story was ending. I consider it my canon.

 

As for Sera, it seems everyone couldn't stand her at first. Many never change. Once I understood what she was saying though I grew to like her; especially her opposing views to racial segregation ("our people," "us and them") and the Dalish clinging to the past for the sake of clinging to the past; one they don't even really know.



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I wonder if some of it is just due to the fact that they are trying to accommodate so many different races/genders? Bull is available to any gender/race combo so I can imagine his romance being written with that in mind. Given the amount of romance scenes they had the budget for, maybe they had to keep him a bit more neutral? Contrast that with the Solas romance (also written by Weekes), but gated to just elven females--that romance arc benefited a lot from the gating, allowing the writer to give a more tailored story.

Generally I think DAI comes a long way from DAO and DA2 providing more reactivity to your race/class. DAO didn't have a whole lot outside of the origin stories. DA2 had only one playable race, but I do remember some different dialogue if you were a mage...the friendship/rivalry really added something to companion relationships I thought. DAI stepped it up adding more references to your race/class. But you can still tell it was written first with a human in mind, and bioware still have a ways to go before I'd call it a seamless experience with multiple races. I liked the dialogue perks you could get for things like arcane knowledge or history. That is a one feature I would like to see more of in future games.

Two of my three points minimum can still be addressed regardless of race/class for the romance. The only one that might change is if you're a Tal-Vashok and/or a mage.

 

A thought on the Solas romance... Why can't you flirt with him if you're not an elven female? The option should still be there even if he'll reject you.

 

I missed the friendship/rivalry system. At least, unlike DA:O, you can still ask questions to characters who don't like you. In DA:O I once had a character who never learned about dying young as a Grey Warden because Alistair had low approval all game... until Loghain tells Riordan that they're aware the taint will eventually kill them. When was my character made aware of that? This was when Riordan revealed a warden had to die to kill the archdemon.

 

While I liked the arcane, history, etc. perks, I wish there was more times they were used.



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I always romance Cullen. It's just befitting for my female mage considering his past with Amell, and that she once was enamored with a Templar in the circle. I love how Josie reacts when she tells her that. She wants all the juicy details, but my Inquisitor says she was too shy to do anything and Josie gets disappointed. LOL

 

As for Iron Bull, I found him a good friend to my Inquisitor. He was her loyal friend, bodyguard and someone that could help her unwind after a long day with a drink or inspiring words. I think his romance is considered popular because of how it's played out. He regards sex as just that. Sex. He has a thing for redheads and sleeps with the servants at Skyhold. He's the least likely to commit, but if you romance him, he stops with the other girls and stays loyal to you. It's a pretty sweet romance, with the kinky edge many seem to like, but it ends beautifully instead of tragically like so many others (minus Cullen). Iron Bull himself is likable and I think since Sten and yes, even the Arishok in DA2, many fans have wanted to romance a Qunari and now they finally got that chance and he's just too adorable to not try a romance with at least once in my opinion.



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I always romance Cullen. It's just befitting for my female mage considering his past with Amell, and that she once was enamored with a Templar in the circle. I love how Josie reacts when she tells her that. She wants all the juicy details, but my Inquisitor says she was too shy to do anything and Josie gets disappointed. LOL

Cullen turned my qunari down. :( I did a human run just to romance him because, like you said, it felt fitting for him to fall for another mage after his history with Amell; this time one who reciprocates his feelings.

 

I do have a problem romancing non-companions though because you see so little of them.



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Cullen turned my qunari down. :( I did a human run just to romance him because, like you said, it felt fitting for him to fall for another mage after his history with Amell; this time one who reciprocates his feelings.

 

I do have a problem romancing non-companions though because you see so little of them.

 

Cullen only romances Humans and Elves, but seeing him with a tall female Qunari would have been awesome! Lol

 

Yes, that's why I like that one quest where Cullen joins me.

 

I love how like in DA2, whoever you romance or whoever you are a good friend to, reacts if you get hurt in the battle. Having Cullen in the party and romancing him might have made that even more interesting!

 

My Iron Bull though, simply adores my Inquisitor and never lets her fall in battle. Any enemy hits her, he charges at them! I found Zevran did that too with my Warden, even though I didn't romance him.



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Bioware romances are always rather light on these sort of issues. I mean, a human noble like Hawke and a Dalish Elf? That would have it's problems too, from other people if not from the couple themselves, and in that case it's not like they'd have to worry about a variety of different races complicating things.

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"Why is Iron Bull's romance popular?"

 

Short answer: It appeals to a lot of people.



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the average player is a straight male

 

we think romancing him is funny and is our entry level point into gay romances

 

Iron Bull, the gateway romance for the "gay agenda"? 


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Iron Bull, the gateway romance for the "gay agenda"?


Nah, that's Zevran's job. Ooh, Anders too! Remember all those dudes who were "tricked" into bedding them? :P
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Nah, that's Zevran's job. Ooh, Anders too! Remember all those dudes who were "tricked" into bedding them? :P

 

"Anders tricked me into clicking the heart icon........multiple times!  RETCON!"


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"Why is Iron Bull's romance popular?"

 

Short answer: It appeals to a lot of people.

 

You sure that isn't his Ben-Hassrath training?



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OP is hardly the first poster to thinly veil a complaint thread with a "question". 

 

The answer typically tends to be: subjectivity. This case doesn't seem like an exception. 

 

What's strange to me is that Iron Bull's romance doesn't seem to be massively popular. He has a following, but it isn't exactly of a headscratchingly huge number. 



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Nah, that's Zevran's job. Ooh, Anders too! Remember all those dudes who were "tricked" into bedding them? :P

 

Like this? :D

 

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Nah, that's Zevran's job. Ooh, Anders too! Remember all those dudes who were "tricked" into bedding them? :P

 

Beware Zevran's message!

 

(I always lose it on remembering that. Just :lol: )


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