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Which asari adept is the best asari adept?


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#101
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I never found Captains to be too problematic, for what you specified (stasis). Praetorians are definitely nowhere near as strong as they look, since like banshees, they have no ability to attack at range while on the move. Keeping distance makes them easy to handle.

 

Yeah, that's my point: Commando can easily deal with Captains, who are the biggest threat Collectors have (noticeably deadlier than Marauders, for example).
 

But I just dread playing Collectors on Firebase Ghost. The cover doesn't offer a lot of good spots to try to funnel enemies through and all the openings allow Scions to shoot from across the map. On something like Goddess or Glacier however? Not nearly so bad. Primes are usually worse there since the closer quarters lets them use turrets, whereas on the long distance maps they're nowhere near as dangerous.

 

Interesting. I've never found Collectors particularly challenging on Ghost - so many ways to kite around - but, for me, fighting the Geth is more difficult there than on most maps. Unlike Scions, Primes are always ready to fire, they have zero aim delay and they can snipe you through the tiniest opening from across the level when you're running around.



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Yes, and women are cowwies.  Duh.  Anatomy.

 
Well ****** played my man.
 
 
 
Wait...who're you calling a cowwie?!
 
You wanna THUNDADOME me, bro?! C'mon, I dare you.
 
Then we'll see who the real cowwie is.
 
I know that at least one of us isn't going to show, and that "one of us" definitely, maybe isn't not me.
 
 
ya yella bastard :D


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Yes, and women are cowwies.  Duh.  Anatomy.

More like female dogs



#104
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Asari Justicar, the weakest among the asari? Really? You've done it, BSN. You've made me mad about video games.


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Justicar. They're both good  and very versatile though, I don't see why I have to choose. 



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Asari Justicar, the weakest among the asari? Really? You've done it, BSN. You've made me mad about video games.-

 

Out of curiosity: which asari do you think are weaker than Justicar?



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Out of curiosity: which asari do you think are weaker than Justicar?

 

The Valkyrie, clearly.

 

 

:whistle:



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Out of curiosity: which asari do you think are weaker than Justicar?

Luckily the other Asari aren't adepts.



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Out of curiosity: which asari do you think are weaker than Justicar?

The Valkyrie, clearly.


:whistle:

This, only unironically. (edit: actually i am being sarcastic about not being sarcastic)

Actually, I feel all asari kits are roughly equal, I am mostly suffering a case of mild butthurt over the assertion that the justicar is "beyond a doubt" the weakest on the previous pages of this thread.

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Well ****** played my man.
 
 
 
Wait...who're you calling a cowwie?!
 
You wanna THUNDADOME me, bro?! C'mon, I dare you.
 
Then we'll see who the real cowwie is.
 
I know that at least one of us isn't going to show, and that "one of us" definitely, maybe isn't not me.
 
 
ya yella bastard :D

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I did not say AJ is weak at all, I just say the other Asari are stronger in my opinion. Which is ridiculous, since the other blue babies were having fun and go stripping, when AJ (the experienced warrior - monk) was polishing the combat skills. Lore wise all the Asari are not just respecting Justicar - they are actually afraid. Samara casually crushes the leader of mercenaries - presumably an experienced warrior - just with powers, without even using a gun.

 

Now let us see what she has against other Asari.

 

As I already stated, she can not make a BE at a range against bosses, which is a big disadvantage in some situations, especially on big maps. The Commando and Huntress can and Vanguard has grenades.

 

Agaist the bosses she must go CQC the same as Valkyrie, but Valkyrie has shield regeneration from AF and can ****** on 2 Banshies and a Brute at CQC (on a slope) while the AJ can not.

 

Saying L2P is easy but makes you look funny without valid arguments. And I honestly see no arguments proving AJ is better than any other Asari. 



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We're still talking adepts here.



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Oh, I thought we were also discussing geth - quarian relationship and quarian adepts and anatomy of cows and all other interesting subjects.  


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I did not say AJ is weak at all, I just say the other Asari are stronger in my opinion. Which is ridiculous, since the other blue babies were having fun and go stripping, when AJ (the experienced warrior - monk) was polishing the combat skills. Lore wise all the Asari are not just respecting Justicar - they are actually afraid. Samara casually crushes the leader of mercenaries - presumably an experienced warrior - just with powers, without even using a gun.

 

Now let us see what she has against other Asari.

 

As I already stated, she can not make a BE at a range against bosses, which is a big disadvantage in some situations, especially on big maps. The Commando and Huntress can and Vanguard has grenades.

 

Agaist the bosses she must go CQC the same as Valkyrie, but Valkyrie has shield regeneration from AF and can ****** on 2 Banshies and a Brute at CQC (on a slope) while the AJ can not.

 

Saying L2P is easy but makes you look funny without valid arguments. And I honestly see no arguments proving AJ is better than any other Asari. 

 

I vote for Commando.

 

Reave is a good power, but it does not make AJ a good character comparing to all other Asari.

Actually she is no doubt the weakest Asari, when according to the Lore she should be the strongest.

 

The biggest problem with AJ is that she can not make consistent BE against bosses, where it is

needed most of all. The charging bosses will go through you bubble without triggering BE, therefore

you have to cast the bubble after the charge (if you are still alive).

 

Commando is more reliable and ensures consistent DPS output against any enemy, any faction

at any range. Warp +  shoot + shoot (Wraith) + Throw against bosses (can not dodge). Stasis + shoot

against everything else. You can instantly stop any dangerous mini-boss with high DPS using Stasis,

which is good for your survival.

  

I can play AJ, and even have fun. But Commando is much better.

 

The AJ could be repaired with making pull to prime all the targets. Alternatively, make pull detonator

for Reave. Alternatively, make the Warp of the Bubble a true Warp for the enemies to stay BE primed 

after they leave the Bubble. 



#115
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Did not use "babby".  Challenge invalid.


Cowwie

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"I did not say AJ is weak at all,"

"Actually she is no doubt the weakest Asari,"

 

Basic logic: weakest X does not necessarily equal weakest Y.

 

In the set of all asari kits, the opinion is that the Justicar is the weakest.

The set of asari kits is a subset of the set all multiplayer characters.

 

In the set of all multiplayer characters, the opinion is that the Justicar is not weak.

 

Seriously, do they not teach logic and basic critical thinking anymore?

 

edit: Let's give a mathematical example.

 

There exists a set of numbers from 1 to 100.

There exists a subset of the set with numbers ranging from 75 to 100.

In the subset, the smallest number is 75.

 

Assertion 1: 75 is the smallest number in the subset.

Tested. All other numbers in the subset are greater than 75.

Assertion 1: True.

 

Assertion 2: Since 75 is the smallest number in the subset, it must be the smallest number in the whole set.

Tested: There exist numbers in the whole set that are less than 75.

Assertion 2: FALSE. 75 is NOT the smallest number in the whole set.


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#117
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tl;dr vaguely OT shitpost follows

 

At range, the asari justicar has warp rounds + power amp + area reave, an ability that swiftly deals enough DPS to stop a banshee charge on platinum, can't be blocked by the phantom bubble, and is further amplified by the fact that it stacks when a single user casts multiple times on a target. DC does not, each new cast by a single user cancels out DC's effect and it has no AOE. BE detonations from projectiles such as warp and throw can be dodged, thrown aside by the banshee hand of denial, absorbed entirely by groups of swarmers, or just flat out defeated by lag. Lift grenades are an inefficient means of damaging heavy armor or shielded bosses on gold and nearly all shielded/armored enemies on platinum, and more so on a grenade sparse map. And this is assuming the Justicar isn't capable of using the bubble strategically and anticipating where enemy spawns will move, all the skilled Justicar players I have encountered (I myself do not count as one) are more than capable of bubbling effectively at range on any map because they can anticipate the predictable AI paths the enemies follow and use the bubble accordingly at choke points.  The sentinel is the weakest at range, she basically just has the single target warp + incendiary rounds, no AOE ranged attack.

 

At CQC Justicar should not have any problem staying alive without the shield drain gimmick (which, for the record, will not stop lethal damage in time if taking fire from the vast majority of plat enemies, enemies outside of the drain radius, or from multiple sources). Even when no evolution for additional DR is taken with the bubble or reave, she has 45% stacking DR , comparable to the Asari Valkyrie's 50% DR if tech armor is maxed (I've almost never put 6 ranks in Tech Armor for her though and don't think taking 6B is particularly worth it, either).  Last time I played her, she had no trouble taking out 2 banshees and a brute at CQC/mid-range on platinum at a rate very similar to the Valkyrie with the quite rapid reave + bubble + reave combo. Last time I played her off-host, she also had no problem doing the same, whereas AF failed to prime, failed to drain, and forced a retreat. Justicar is superior at CQC to Commando and Huntress, who will be shredded if pinned by multiple platinum enemies in any solo situation and has low odds of detonating a BE or headshotting 3-4 enemies fast enough to hold their ground, whereas the Justicar actually CAN hold her ground against large groups so long as she's using the bubble smartly. I probably just need to L2P, but I have always had an easier time holding my ground against multiple rushing enemies in a solo situation (such as w7 cerb plat) with the Justicar than I have with the Huntress/Commando, so I believe in CQC she is superior to those two and comparable to the Sentinel. 

 

Better at ranged combat then the Sentinel and Vanguard, comparable in CQC to the Sentinel and with similar "survivability", better at CQC than Huntress and Adept, vastly better boss DPS than the vanguard but still highly effective against mooks. Huh, seems like the Justicar is balanced for all encounters at any range versus any map or faction. But yes, without a doubt weaker than other Asari yepyepyep 

 

I say this even when I do personally prefer the Commando in both teamplay and solos. Justicar is not the strongest asari, but she is extremely well-balanced compared to her asari sisters. I actually believe she is more versatile and interesting in various UUG and UUP* situations than the vanguard, the sentinel, and the huntress, but that is purely in the realm of personal opinion. 

 

 

*note that i actually only play turians on bronze so just speaking in purely hypothetical terms here, i am a theorycrafter who does not actually play this video game extensively


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^Longest Techno's post ever. The only way to get a longer post from her would be to say something bad about turians. I will not take that risk personally, as I would like to live a few more years.


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I've never had any problems dealing as much damage or surviving as much aggro with the Justicar as the other asari, she's not noticeably weaker than any of them. She's more fun than the commando anyway. 


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I've never had any problems dealing as much damage or surviving as much aggro with the Justicar as the other asari, she's not noticeably weaker than any of them. She's more fun than the commando anyway. 

Agreed.



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Also, Turians are crap. Come at me TechnoAsari! 

 

edit: Wait, I should go to the diss thread. huh, I confused the two. 


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Techno is back posting YouTube videos and she just posted a 671 word diatribe.

 

Girl, what happened to you while you were gone?!?!


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Girl, what happened to you while you were gone?!?!


...what happened while i was gone?

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Ah, so you're admitting that even a Turian lover like you can't resist the luscious ladies of Thessia?

 

Step into this PM conversation and describe your feelings to me....

 

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When the title says Best. Is it refering to total dps, versatility, sexiness or what exactly. I personally believe the Bubble-Butt Asari is the best... and I'll leave it at that.