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#126
Lazarillo

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I don't think Justice was a demon throughout Awakening, I believe that at some point between Awakening and DA2 he became a demon or perhaps more demon like which made him desire to possess Anders in the first place.

 

I think it may have had to do with who he was possessing.  Even though Kristoff was dead, Justice still could remember things about his life, had some level of motivation based on Kristoff's personality...so he was focused on Justicing the Darkspawn.  To a spirit, the world is probably very black and white.  Darkspawn were the enemy, therefore, Darkspawn were evil, therefore, killing them was Just.  When he possessed Anders, he was still Justice, but he had a different personality that he was emulating...and this time, the "evil" wasn't so clear cut...



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And of course Anders had a lot of anger and mixing anger and justice never ends well.



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Eliastion

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Well that is just another meaning i don't even know why you brought it up because those 2 others were important. ;)

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I'm not talking about any "third" meaning. The second one you found in an obscure astronomy-related meaning of not that widely used word. I know that you can find anything in the Internet, but when I take three different dictionaries and one (small one) doesn't have malevolent and the other two (Collins Cobuild English Dictionary and Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English) both only say about wishing someone harm, then I go to the Longman online dictionary and get the same result, and then I even explicitly look for american english dictionary where I read pretty much the same...

I don't deny that there are dictionaries that give that additional meaning you want, often with adnotation that it is an astronomical term or giving "malevolent stars" as example. So yeah, it is a proper meaning. Just really obscure and hardly appropriate for our context. But, suit yourself, as I said - you found a meaning that proved me wrong, you indeed can be malevolent without wishing anyone harm. Though most examples seem to suggest that it usually happens when you are an unlucky arrangement of celestial bodies. Still, the meaning exists, you're right and I concede.



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TheKomandorShepard

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I'm not talking about any "third" meaning. The second one you found in an obscure astronomy-related meaning of not that widely used word. I know that you can find anything in the Internet, but when I take three different dictionaries and one (small one) doesn't have malevolent and the other two (Collins Cobuild English Dictionary and Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English) both only say about wishing someone harm, then I go to the Longman online dictionary and get the same result, and then I even explicitly look for american english dictionary where I read pretty much the same...

I don't deny that there are dictionaries that give that additional meaning you want, often with adnotation that it is an astronomical term or giving "malevolent stars" as example. So yeah, it is a proper meaning. Just really obscure and hardly appropriate for our context. But, suit yourself, as I said - you found a meaning that proved me wrong, you indeed can be malevolent without wishing anyone harm. Though most examples seem to suggest that it usually happens when you are an unlucky arrangement of celestial bodies. Still, the meaning exists, you're right and I concede.

Sites you posted have only 1 meaning but some sites have 3 meanings english isn't my first but i remembered that i saw it used 2 ways.In fact i already pointed that i used that word correctly as intention and something harmful what works.   



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Eliastion

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Yeah, yeah, as I said, the meaning does exist, you're correct.



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TheKomandorShepard

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Yeah, yeah, as I said, the meaning does exist, you're correct.

Im always right :devil:



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HiroVoid

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Hawke simply saw the truth.



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GalacticDonuts

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None of my Hawkes were blood mages and I made Merril give up blood magic, it's all g B)