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[The Devlish Redhead]

I am okay with this. 

 

I've been pretty selfish and have been keeping porn to myself, it is only fair that it gets out there and evenly distributed on the internet. 

 

 

Here guys and gals, have at some of it: 

 

 

Spoiler

I got this one from Isi as a birthday present 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!    It's naked   

[Isichar]

EEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!    It's naked   

 

I would have bought him a steam game but he doesn't use it so I figured I'd give him porn instead

 

 

I'm ok if people want to spy on my HD. All they're find is thousands upon thousands of PMMM and other anime fanart. Then again I don't live in the US so... *shrug*

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

YOLO

so get this:

 

 

[Cypher0020]

 

What if the government finds my logs of fanfiction...............

[dragonflight288]

 

What if the government finds my logs of fanfiction...............

 

You should be on guard. You may be accused of subliminal messaging inciting violence, immoral behavior, and apple pie. 

[mousestalker]

Inspirational thread music

[The Devlish Redhead]

I would have bought him a steam game but he doesn't use it so I figured I'd give him porn instead

 

 

BTW I was joking I wasn't put out by the naked car showing all its bits ............ I LOVE cutaway diagrams of cars and other stuff.

[bEVEsthda]

So because of crime we need this........  No we don't. One good reason why we need this beyond ordinary police or agencies doing the job they are paid to do..

 

"Ordinary police" have no legal rights to do surveillance on the internet (neither have anyone else, of course, but that doesn't mean it's not certain to happen anyway). Nor do they have means to stop a crime in progress, or legal means to identify a criminal.

 

Internet is a public place, just like New York or London, in which it's possible to steal property, hurt people, threaten and extort people and enforce vile agendas. The difference is that there's no police or military, the protective agents of civilization. You may argue that your computer corresponds to your home. No it doesn't. If it's on and connected to the internet, you're "outside".

 

Are you at all familiar with the historical situation in London or New York, before there were police departments?

There are also educational trips one can do and visit parts of the world, like Afghanistan, Syria, Pakistan, Colombia, Mexico City, Rio Favelas, Los Angeles...

The lesson here is that you're going to have someone poking into you, threatening your "privacy and freedom" and human rights, no matter what! If you have no police, you're going to have gangs. If you have no military, you're going to have warlords and their militias. Every country has an army. If it's not their own, it's some else. Just a matter of time.

 

It's not the first time that legislation is not appropriate for the reality of a fast changing world. Until it eventually is, it's necessary for someone (concerned government agents) to step in and fill the void, legal or not.

 

The difference between an oppressive regime, like the theocratic tyranny of Iran, and the democratic regime of a free country, is not in the structures they possess to observe and police their citizens, it's in how they treat them and what life they offer them. A democratic regime doesn't defend itself successfully because its police is made powerless (on the contrary), but because its police officers grew up in a democratic and free country!

 

(Don't even get me started on that ultra-naive, mega-imbecile traitor Ed Snowden - the first thing he does is to run away to two of the regimes in the world who are the worst in actually actively doing the things against their citizens, he claims US could do.)

 

 

P.S. This entire post is of course about the general question of crime and government presence on internet. Regarding the thread-specific question of cyber-intelligence departments creating viruses which makes them able to have a private, non-visible storage area on a hard-drive, that's different. They don't do that to spy on your hd. No more than they put satellites into space to spy on what's in your back garden.

No. It's part of a war going on.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Read the title as "Hard Dick could be spying on you... Thanks USA"

[The Devlish Redhead]

"Ordinary police" have no legal rights to do surveillance on the internet (neither have anyone else, of course, but that doesn't mean it's not certain to happen anyway). Nor do they have means to stop a crime in progress, or legal means to identify a criminal.

 

Internet is a public place, just like New York or London, in which it's possible to steal property, hurt people, threaten and extort people and enforce vile agendas. The difference is that there's no police or military, the protective agents of civilization. You may argue that your computer corresponds to your home. No it doesn't. If it's on and connected to the internet, you're "outside".

 

Are you at all familiar with the historical situation in London or New York, before there were police departments?

There are also educational trips one can do and visit parts of the world, like Afghanistan, Syria, Pakistan, Colombia, Mexico City, Rio Favelas, Los Angeles...

The lesson here is that you're going to have someone poking into you, threatening your "privacy and freedom" and human rights, no matter what! If you have no police, you're going to have gangs. If you have no military, you're going to have warlords and their militias. Every country has an army. If it's not their own, it's some else. Just a matter of time.

 

It's not the first time that legislation is not appropriate for the reality of a fast changing world. Until it eventually is, it's necessary for someone (concerned government agents) to step in and fill the void, legal or not.

 

The difference between an oppressive regime, like the theocratic tyranny of Iran, and the democratic regime of a free country, is not in the structures they possess to observe and police their citizens, it's in how they treat them and what life they offer them. A democratic regime doesn't defend itself successfully because its police is made powerless (on the contrary), but because its police officers grew up in a democratic and free country!

 

(Don't even get me started on that ultra-naive, mega-imbecile traitor Ed Snowden - the first thing he does is to run away to two of the regimes in the world who are the worst in actually actively doing the things against their citizens, he claims US could do.)

 

 

P.S. This entire post is of course about the general question of crime and government presence on internet. Regarding the thread-specific question of cyber-intelligence departments creating viruses which makes them able to have a private, non-visible storage area on a hard-drive, that's different. They don't do that to spy on your hd. No more than they put satellites into space to spy on what's in your back garden.

No. It's part of a war going on.

 

 

Hmmmmmmmm you make valid points.....

 

I wonder which government though manged to hack the world's biggest maker of SIM cards... That's a worry.

[bEVEsthda]

Which is why it's no surprise that in the past six years, our national debt has increased more than every president before our current one ever accumulated, combined. 

 

...And of course, the huge tax cuts for the filthy rich, the golden government contracts to friends of the backers of a certain previous president, and the Titanic of a completely unnecessary war in Iraq, has nothing to do with it?

 

There's usually a reason for emergency programs to save the economy from a total financial collapse.

[bEVEsthda]

Good advice.

 

Be sure to follow it when the government makes criticizing the government grounds for treason charges.

 

They can't do that without passing laws. Which is part of a democratic process, which you, as a voter, control.

[Dean_the_Young]

Hmmmmmmmm you make valid points.....

 

I wonder which government though manged to hack the world's biggest maker of SIM cards... That's a worry.

 

Why do you assume it's only one government?

 

China and Russia have been breaking into corporate and national infrastructure for years. Other countries have their own projects- especially relating to their national flagship corporations.

[Dermain]

...And of course, the huge tax cuts for the filthy rich, the golden government contracts to friends of the backers of a certain previous president, and the Titanic of a completely unnecessary war in Iraq, has nothing to do with it?

 

There's usually a reason for emergency programs to save the economy from a total financial collapse.

 

Especially if it isn't the first such instance of it. I seem to recall a bailout or two before the US had that whole president switch...

 

It's also worth noting that the national debt of the US was only paid off once in the nation's history, and that was only because President Andrew Jackson (correctly) believed that banks were entirely corrupt agencies that only serve to make the rich richer and more politically powerful. Unfortunately, Jackson's successors didn't see it that way, and then we ended up back in debt again. The real question is, who does that debt serve? It's also unlikely that anyone from either party will ever stop it besides using it as a nice bumper sticker to get votes.

 

Hmmmmmmmm you make valid points.....

 

I wonder which government though manged to hack the world's biggest maker of SIM cards... That's a worry.

 

All of the ones that have a cyber-intelligence agency. 

 

Just feel lucky that you don't live in an ACTUAL oppressive regime, but then again if you did you wouldn't be able to use the vast majority of the internet because it would be censored.

 

 

But why would anybody here use that?

 

Or do people really care if the government finds "nugget porn" in their web search?

 

They're either highly paranoid, or they're dealing in things we probably do not want to know about.

 

[TheBunz]

What does the Government really want with spying on the average American?

Intel Report

0600 - Email checked; Imthecoolestperson_69@gmail.com; Penis enlargement Scheme, Bills

           Listened to Miley Cyrus - Party in the USA

0700-1700- *Inactive*

1730 - Email checked; Imthecoolestperson_69@gmail.com; Penis enlargement Spam, Bills

            Listened to Taylor Swift - Style

1800 - Youtube Cat Videos, Conspiracy Theories and Zit Popping

1900 - Pornographic Material

1901 - Facebook/Twitter

[The Devlish Redhead]

On governments howcome they never tighten up on things like tax loopholes, negative gearing, and keep bailing out corporates as if they are poor people?

 

And guess which of that lot pays the least amount of tax?

[Cainhurst Crow]

They can't do that without passing laws. Which is part of a democratic process, which you, as a voter, control.

 

That's not how the united states works. We have a republic, where representatives are choosen by the public, but are not beholden to their will beyond a supposed incentive to get re-elected. Citizens don't get to pick candidates either, the political parties pick candidates,  and citizens get to pick which parties candidate gets in. Even during the primary process where politicans get voted on as who will run for office, the candidates avaliable to vote for are still gated to the point of being pre-determined. 

 

So, if the government chooses who represents what position in a partys election, they'll be able to control exactly who gwts into office and what their policies will be. Heck, private corporations already did such practices,  investing large sums of money into both campaigners in a state to get both in their pocket. Government doing the same would have the same effect. 

 

And once those representatives are in, you can't do jack **** nor have any say on their position for years. Your stuck having to sit and watch as they find new ways to **** you over sideways cause they're gonna get millions in private contributions by the military industrial complex alone just by voting against your interest, way more than their actual salary for doing their job.

[TheBunz]

lol I am sure they have a more verbose and complex algorithm than that lol if Google can easily identify spam, then what us the NSA?

I'm just saying that the average 99.9999% don't do anything worth spying on.

 

Oh look at bunz, he's at it again. Playing his world of warcraft, listening to music, and posting on the BSN!

Let's be even more bored than him and spy on him doing boring, insignificant stuff.

 

After working for the federal government, I can assure you that laziness is the biggest issue. Even if they had a video camera in you computer monitor watching you ******, a guy like me would supposed to be documenting everything, but instead I'd be more focused on my cell phone.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I'm just saying that the average 99.9999% don't do anything worth spying on.

 

Oh look at bunz, he's at it again. Playing his world of warcraft, listening to music, and posting on the BSN!

Let's be even more bored than him and spy on him doing boring, insignificant stuff.

 

After working for the federal government, I can assure you that laziness is the biggest issue. Even if they had a video camera in you computer monitor watching you ******, a guy like me would supposed to be documenting everything, but instead I'd be more focused on my cell phone.

 

I would say that near 10% are post-modern activists that might do something...

There is a total 5% of neo-nazis, muslim-fanatics, anarchists and similar one that can be problematic too.

 

And if the people are not content and a revolution may happen the percentage raises to 40-70%.

[TheBunz]

I would say that near 10% are post-modern activists that might do something...

There is a total 5% of neo-nazis, muslim-fanatics, anarchists and similar one that can be problematic too.

 

And if the people are not content and a revolution may happen the percentage raises to 40-70%.

 

Those percents are so bogus. For perspective, do you know anyone that you just classified as spy worthy?