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[Vroom Vroom]

I was a teacher for several years in NYC public schools, so I have a bunch of thoughts on this story.  First, I think it's crazy that this teacher didn't go to jail for this.  I'm assuming that she lost her job, but she had sex with someone who legally can't consent.  It's crazy that she got away with that.  I do tend to think that a male teacher would never get that same luxury.

 

Here's an anecdote from my teaching years that shows how petrified I was about this entire situation:

 

I worked in a high school, so my students were between 14 and 18 mostly.  I ran a science research program where I placed some of my top science students in researcher labs across the city and they would go there during the school day and earn science elective credit for their work there.  Because I had to send them around the city while they were doing school work, I gave them my cell phone number to text me if they needed anything.  It was worked out through the school ahead of time and, since it was really only a handful of my top (re: nerdy) kids, I felt comfortable with them having the number (fully aware that I might very well need to change my number if one of them made it public).  Well, two years into the program, I had an openly gay student (I'm an openly gay teacher, so it's relevant) in the program.  One night, I get a filthy sex-laden text message from him and I about **** my pants.  In one second, I imagined that this was going to be the end of my career despite my never seeing this kid once outside of school and having a completely professional relationship with him.  I just assumed that an investigation would happen and my name and salary would get plastered across NYC newspapers (this happened to another teacher at my school when a student accused him of groping her after class, so I'd already seen the effects first hand; he was put on 'leave' until it was settled and his reputation was ruined forever, despite eventually being cleared of charges).  I immediately texted back, "Don't ever text me again and we will be discussing this with the principal in the morning!"  Then I texted the assistant principal, who was a good friend of mine, to let him know.  The next day, we had a huge meeting about it and it turns out that the kid's phone had been stolen by his ex-boyfriend who was texting those messages to all of the adults in his life to try to get him in trouble.  There was a police report filed about it already, so we knew it was legit.  It all ended up okay (despite both the student and me being very uncomfortable around each other for the rest of the semester), but it just goes to show how quickly this **** blows up.  And the fact that I was so worried about it when I did absolutely nothing wrong, yet this lady can have sex with a kid and not go to jail?  Just boggles my mind. 

That's horrible! 

 

I bet you had a sleepless night, huh? That would be one of the most awful things to have on your mind. 

 

I'm really glad that everything worked out for you! 

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

I think that 17 year old shouldn't be charged. There was a relationship between them prior to her turning 17 and depending how long the relationship has been going on for (at least a year) it should be considered as extenuating circumstances.
 
But the 14 year old's parents are morons who don't care about how their child felt. Petty ****** assholes, they shouldn't even have a child. Selfish f******.

Worst thing is that im sure she got given the choice of accepting a plea bargain that put her under house arrest & on a sex offenders list or risk going to trial where she was threatened with a lengthy jail term when she turned 18 for "child molestation" if she lost, both were sh**ty choices for a 17 year old girl who only got punished just for dating somebody slightly younger then herself

[Sully13]

Yup. s'why i braught it up.

[Dio Demon]

It's even reported differently in the press. If a female teacher sleeps with a student, the headline reads something like "Teacher Seduces Student." whereas if the teacher is male it will be any variation of "Teacher takes advantage of/abuses/molests female student."

 

Notice the differences?

According to the media it is impossible for a female to rape a male. Because all males want sex from women ergo women can't rape men because they're willing.

 

Which of course is absolute bullshit. Rape isn't about penetration it's about being forced against against your will to do something you don't want to. It's about that loss of control over a part of your life and that's pretty traumatic for some people.

[Sully13]

Check out the video sexual assault explaned useing magnets.

 

Also Why we make Rape jokes  from a standup who was a child who was sexualy assaultd by a female teacher.

[Dio Demon]

Worst thing is that im sure she got given the choice of accepting a plea bargain that put her under house arrest & on a sex offenders list or risk going to trial where she was threatened with a lengthy jail term when she turned 18 for "child molestation" if she lost, both were sh**ty choices for a 17 year old girl who only got punished just for dating somebody slightly younger then herself

The most important bit was that THEY HAD A RELATIONSHIP PRIOR TO HER TURNING SEVENTEEN! If I was the judge I'd let her off with a warning and that she probably should avoid such actions in the future until the other girl is of age since other judges may not see it in the same light as I do.

[Sully13]

Agreed pluss im not sure if there relationship was sexual. bareing in mind consent lawa for lesbian relationships are lower than Gay concent laws. wierd huh?

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

According to the media it is impossible for a female to rape a male. Because all males want sex from women ergo women can't rape men because they're willing.
 
Which of course is absolute bullshit. Rape isn't about penetration it's about being forced against against your will to do something you don't want to. It's about that loss of control over a part of your life and that's pretty traumatic for some people.

In my country men can get arrested for rape but women can only get charged with sexual assault, im not sure why there should be a difference if both forced themselves on somebody else sexually

[Sully13]

Ill post those videos as soon as i can. i mentioned it before and because in a Anti feminist i was ignored... sooo.

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Agreed pluss im not sure if there relationship was sexual. bareing in mind consent lawa for lesbian relationships are lower than Gay concent laws. wierd huh?

Thats usually cos F/F relationships & sex ain't considered to be real by alot of people while gay sex is apparently a huge deal

[Sully13]

s'cause we dont have the right kind of junk. Sistuh. 

Nah its funny how little study is done in lesbians but is done on Gay men. lol.

[Jock Cranley]

Thats usually cos F/F relationships & sex ain't considered to be real by alot of people while gay sex is apparently a huge deal

 

Double standards! They're a thing!

 

Sometimes they favor you and sometimes they don't!

[X Equestris]

Worst thing is that im sure she got given the choice of accepting a plea bargain that put her under house arrest & on a sex offenders list or risk going to trial where she was threatened with a lengthy jail term when she turned 18 for "child molestation" if she lost, both were sh**ty choices for a 17 year old girl who only got punished just for dating somebody slightly younger then herself

See, in my state we have a close in age exemption, so they would have been covered.

[The Devlish Redhead]

Lucky kid.

 

 

See now it's comments like this.......Why do we view him as "lucky?"

 

It's wrong......

[The Devlish Redhead]

According to the media it is impossible for a female to rape a male. Because all males want sex from women ergo women can't rape men because they're willing.

 

Which of course is absolute bullshit. Rape isn't about penetration it's about being forced against against your will to do something you don't want to. It's about that loss of control over a part of your life and that's pretty traumatic for some people.

 

Even if the woman was say 30 and the student was 10 or 11?? So that's not rape?

[Johnnie Walker]

Because if the woman went to jail, then all the crazy feminists would say that he male student raped her thus causing bs.

 

Probably something like this would happen but on a larger scale. Can you imagine?

 

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I do  not understand that. Why did they wait till she turned 17? isn't 14 underage? What's the difference?

 

It would depend on the jurisdiction, but in most, the law isn't fixed at a single age of consent.

 

In Canada, the federal law works like this:

 

The age of consent is 16 (it used to be 14, but was changed a few years ago.) For people under the age of sixteen, consent is limited to a two-year differential. That means that a 15 year old can consent to sex with anyone from 14 to 17. A 14 year old can consent to sex with anyone from 14 to 16. People under 14 cannot legally consent to sex, regardless of age differential (but I don't believe two 13 year olds would be arrested for having sex with each other.)

 

In all likelihood, in the story that you're asking about, that jurisdiction has a similarly-written law regarding the age of consent.

 

Edit: In Canada, there is also a restriction for the ages of 16 and 17 that says that they cannot consent to sex with someone over 18 who is in a position of authority over them, for example a teacher, or a coach.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

According to the media it is impossible for a female to rape a male. Because all males want sex from women ergo women can't rape men because they're willing.

 

Which of course is absolute bullshit. Rape isn't about penetration it's about being forced against against your will to do something you don't want to. It's about that loss of control over a part of your life and that's pretty traumatic for some people.

 

I wouldn't say that all media reflects that view, but it is definitely prevalent.

 

And when it comes to male erections, they are not always voluntary, especially for younger teenage boys. Beyond that, sexual responses in both males and females can be prompted regardless of whether the person really wants them to, and that can happen at almost any age.

[Dio Demon]

Even if the woman was say 30 and the student was 10 or 11?? So that's not rape?

Some people would make the argument that it was not in fact rape. Female to male rape is seen as this myth. Public perception is that women are more likely to be victims where men are more likely to be the perpetrators. Anything that contradicts that is usually seen as absurd and laughable. Though thankfully not everyone shares that mindset.

[DanteYoda]

Of course they would have, equal rights is as fantastical as Dragon Age is...

[Vroom Vroom]

See now it's comments like this.......Why do we view him as "lucky?"

 

It's wrong......

I'm positive that was a joke. 

 

I agree though, the world is a messed up and unjust place. 

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I'm on my phone/work and can't look for it so take the following with a grain of salt.

But I do remember a case where a woman in her 20s was accused of raping some kid who was 10-13. It was notable in my mind because there was a screencap of Tumblr comments, one in particular was along the lines of "hello? Aren't we forgetting the key word here. The "victim" was an X year old male."

SJWs man, not even once.

[mybudgee]

That's horrible! 

 

I bet you had a sleepless night, huh? That would be one of the most awful things to have on your mind. 

 

I'm really glad that everything worked out for you! 

We have given children too much power 

[Vroom Vroom]

We have given children too much power 

I just pray that the day never comes when they realize it en-masse and start falsely accusing people of doing things to them whenever they don't get their way.  Society is a mess, a non fixable one in my opinion.