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[RatThing]

The only friend Shepard needs is his weapon.

[MrMrPendragon]

Garrus.

 

He has the most "bromance" factor. Always by Shepard's side throughout all the games. I took him with me in all the final battles - Citadel against Saren, Collector Ship, and Priority: Earth.

[RanetheViking]

Shepards real best friend is his Mantis Sniper Rifle.

[God]

Shepards real best friend is his Mantis Sniper Rifle.

 

Nah... Black Widow.

[Ithurael]

Harbinger...

[GalacticWolf5]

My femshep's best friend would be Miranda and would consider her to be a sister

 

Even though Miranda straight up lies to Shepard about not knowing about the clone. She directed Project Lazarus, she saw the clone and she knew why it was made.  She even did tests on him/her. A best friend, or ''sister'', wouldn't really keep a secret like that, would they?

[RanetheViking]

Nah... Black Widow.

I  'might' agree if we were in the MP, but the trusty ol' melon poppin' Mantis is da' bomb for me in the SP.

[Vazgen]

I  'might' agree if we were in the MP, but the trusty ol' melon poppin' Mantis is da' bomb for me in the SP.

Mantis X is just too awesome. Decent clip size, damage of a Widow, very low weight

Amazing

 

I find Black Widow to be a waste of credits. You spend 200.000+ credits to get Widow with two more shots in a clip. Except both kill most targets in one shot and there are no enemies hard enough to punish you for the time spent on reloading the gun. 

[themikefest]

Even though Miranda straight up lies to Shepard about not knowing about the clone. She directed Project Lazarus, she saw the clone and she knew why it was made.  She even did tests on him/her. A best friend, or ''sister'', wouldn't really keep a secret like that, would they?

It can't be as bad as Liara not telling Shepard's mother that his/her body was given to Cerberus and keeping Shepard's armor in a glass case like it some kind of trophy would it?

 

Or it can't be as bad as the squadmates in ME3 never caring about Shepard . Or as bad as the ME1 characters making no effort to find a way to stop the reapers after the SR1 is blown up. 

[SwobyJ]

Even though Miranda straight up lies to Shepard about not knowing about the clone. She directed Project Lazarus, she saw the clone and she knew why it was made.  She even did tests on him/her. A best friend, or ''sister'', wouldn't really keep a secret like that, would they?

 

Three possibilities in my mind:

 

1)Bad writing. Either bad communication about things, or misremembering things between the comic and the DLC. If this is the case, then ugh, it will feel like a sign that Mass Effect is just falling apart. I mean really.

 

2)She's lying/keeping secrets. Hmm, technically possible. However, the tone of things in Citadel DLC just doesn't fit with such a notion. Why have Miranda lie about this? And so late in the trilogy? Is she in the next game - is this why? What's going on??

 

3)You can ignore this one, but I have my crazier thoughts that ME3 (and/or Citadel DLC) is pretty much false, or virtual, and that while 'our Shepard' speaks with 'this Miranda', there's a whole other world when Shepard 'wakes up' that has another Miranda, and that Miranda is, in fact, still an ice queen beeatch that did in fact work on the clone and has all sorts of other things going on that 'our Miranda and Shepard' are not aware of or part of. Its a weird idea and part of weirder ideas, but the summary is that the Miranda in Citadel DLC is not the Miranda in those comics, but just the only one we have to deal with in ME3 itself.

 

 

 

All three possibilities are 'problematic', in their own ways. I almost wish it was just Bad Writing - at least then we can move on and try to forget about it. It would suck though, since such a discrepancy between the medias isn't comfortable at all. Why, WHY would Miranda act that way (in either the DLC or comics)? And why would Bioware/Mac(?) want that???

[Orikon]

For a male Shepard its obviously Garrus....Femshep on the other hand....I guess it depends on the player.

[Vazgen]

Where is it stated that she rant tests on the clone?

[SwobyJ]

It can't be as bad as Liara not telling Shepard's mother that his/her body was given to Cerberus and keeping Shepard's armor in a glass case like it some kind of trophy would it?

 

Or it can't be as bad as the squadmates in ME3 never caring about Shepard . Or as bad as the ME1 characters making no effort to find a way to stop the reapers after the SR1 is blown up. 

 

Liara was never meeting Shepard's mother face-to-face, and friendly with her, and already admitting other things in the spirit of honesty to her.

 

 

Though for the rest - sure. Very few characters make a *concerted* effort to stop, defeat, destroy the Reapers. Though really, even in ME1, it is only Shepard that openly shows a willingness to stop them. Even in ME1, characters can barely wrap their heads around the concept of the Reapers, and have no clue on how to respond to them, so either they don't, or they take Shepard's lead.

 

You could argue that it was Shepard's stubbornness, and perhaps even a sort of stupidity (about the Reapers) that let him dismiss the danger of facing the Reapers, for the sake of preferring to fight them til the end.

 

I think we could blame every single other character for not taking the Reapers as seriously as Shepard did, but I think a lot of that is because they would try to think of solutions and didn't have any, so they tried to make good/victory/etc in the galaxy while they still could. After ME1 they knew the Reapers (aka 'Death') was coming, but they did NOT know WHEN. After ME2, they knew the Reapers are coming SOON, so while many tried to prep, others tried to 'get their affairs in order'.

 

The Reapers represent an absolute and undeniable death. It was Shepard's resistance alone that showed that it wasn't deniable, and there could be a way for 'this galaxy' to 'live forever', unbound by the Cycle. So I don't blame the companions TOO much. After ME1 (even before SR-1's destruction) I get that they could feel aimless, and after ME2, I get that they could feel trapped and trying to achieve whatever they thought they could - not hypothetical discoveries that could be dead ends. All the while they could be making an at least very temporary difference in their own other ways.

 

Liara remarks on this kind of thing in ME3. What if they're just screwing around, trying to stop something that can't be stopped?

 

 

 

EDIT: I know you may disagree with any of the rationalizations here, but I'm just saying that at the minimum, this may be what the writers intended. That Shepard was meant to be the only one to uplift the galaxy to being able and willing to both fight against and find ways to stop the Reapers, instead of being rather quickly crushed. That the cycle may have had all the pieces around to be able to counter the Reapers, but only Shepard had the will to think there could be a way to do it. He does inspire most of the companions to a degree - just none of them to a point where they take charge of stopping the Reapers. Ultimately, they all follow his lead, so if he dies (as he did), they don't know what to do. Cult of Shepard. The Anomaly that manages to survive so many encounters with Reaper forces that he's able to push forward with things that others wouldn't have survived to. Because the Reapers are normally (99%) very good at nullifying threats that directly present themselves.

[SwobyJ]

Where is it stated that she rant tests on the clone?

 

Dunno about that specifically, but this is the difference that I remember:

 

Citadel DLC - She states she only heard rumors of the clone.

Foundation - She knows of the clone, has seen it, and (I can't remember exactly if this was the case) she may have both been involved with it and ran tests on it, like any other part of the Lazarus Cell.

[Mordokai]

I  'might' agree if we were in the MP, but the trusty ol' melon poppin' Mantis is da' bomb for me in the SP.

 

Even in MP, Mantis is awesome.

 

 

Of course, the awesome background music helps. Still, this video introduced me to one of my favourite characters, the Mantis GE   Come to think about it, you and I met while I was playing him. Glacier Hazard/Geth/Gold, if memory serves

[Vazgen]

Dunno about that specifically, but this is the difference that I remember:

 

Citadel DLC - She states she only heard rumors of the clone.

Foundation - She knows of the clone, has seen it, and (I can't remember exactly if this was the case) she may have both been involved with it and ran tests on it, like any other part of the Lazarus Cell.

Ah, I see. Well, another reason not to like her

[RatThing]

Ah, I see. Well, another reason not to like her

 

To think that the supervisor of Project Lazaurs would not know about the clone would be pretty naive anyways.  Also, there's the thing about the control chip she wanted to implant in Shepard's head.

[Reedirector]

Joker, Garrus, Liara (especially if romanced) are the main contenders, it seems to me.

 

Obviously, some less predictable characters might be considered depending on their chemistry with your Shepard's character.

 

For instance, Mordin is very good friends with my Shepard, as is Legion.

 

I feel like the entire crew is one giant extended family though 

[GalacticWolf5]

Where is it stated that she rant tests on the clone?

In the comics, TIM allows Miranda to do tests on the clone after they realize they dont need him/her anymore.

[Vazgen]

What I don't like is that when something happens, the whole crew just goes to their own businesses, completely forgetting about Shepard and his agenda.

ME1-ME2 - only Liara cares enough to recover Shepard's body

ME2-ME3 - only Thane cares enough to send a message

I guess it was Thane for my Shepard. Him and Tali

[RanetheViking]

Even in MP, Mantis is awesome.

 

 

Of course, the awesome background music helps. Still, this video introduced me to one of my favourite characters, the Mantis GE   Come to think about it, you and I met while I was playing him. Glacier Hazard/Geth/Gold, if memory serves

All true. And you were sniping like a Boss (< capital B  ) with the good old Mantis as I remember.   Good stuff, because that map isn't the best for sniping (well for me anyway) but you killed it that game.

 

I haven't been playing much MP for the past couple of weeks, but we''ll have to play again sometime soon. 

 

Edit: Great vid btw.

[Reedirector]

As someone who wants to be a Doctor, Chakwas, Michel, Liara and Mordin will always hold a special place in my heart. 

[Pasquale1234]

I guess I always just figured Shepard thanked them for their assistance with completing the mission at hand and dropped them off between games.

Post ME1 - the Alliance had Shepard scouting for geth activity. Not much reaper action there.
Post ME2 - (and Arrival) - Shepard turned herself and the Normandy in to the Alliance.

Garrus, Tali, Wrex, Joker, EDI, Chakwas, plus Liara as LI were it for me.

[Mordokai]

All true. And you were sniping like a Boss (< capital B  ) with the good old Mantis as I remember.   Good stuff, because that map isn't the best for sniping (well for me anyway) but you killed it that game.

 

I haven't been playing much MP for the past couple of weeks, but we''ll have to play again sometime soon. 

 

Edit: Great vid btw.

 

It's not hard being a good sniper when you have Neural Shock Overload But thanks, coming from you, that's a high praise indeed Fifty or so more waves with QMI and Machine Mastery done... then I can get back to my true love of geth

 

And if you're around when I sign in, drop me a message. I'd love to play some games with you as well

[wright1978]

Even though Miranda straight up lies to Shepard about not knowing about the clone. She directed Project Lazarus, she saw the clone and she knew why it was made.  She even did tests on him/her. A best friend, or ''sister'', wouldn't really keep a secret like that, would they?

I treat the comics as utter bs written by a complete incompetent.