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[Kynare]

For my FemShep, Garrus and Miranda.

 

I love Garrus' continued support throughout the game. ("There’s only so much fight in a person, only so much death you can take before…" "Before your friend picks you up, dusts you off, and tells you you’re the best damned soldier he’s ever met." "When things look grim, and they probably will, just remember: a certain turian isn't sleeping any better and will gladly meet you at the bar and drink you under the table.")

 

And the fact that he realizes when Shepard is feeling down. Like in the holding area, when he comments on noticing some wear and tear. He takes notice of Shepard's weaknesses. A testament to his leadership skills. He pays attention to his comrades.

 

Miranda is another story. I headcanon Miranda lending my FemShep dresses and coaching her on how to seduce Kaidan. The best girl friends make sure you don't look like an idiot, and she spent two years rebuilding Shepard's face, so I'd say she takes the cake! Her scene in the Citadel DLC was really sweet too. If they had more regular moments like that, they'd be the best of friends.

 

Kaidan is my FemShep's LI. There's a vulnerability about him that she loves, but he tends to bring out the weaknesses in her as opposed to her strengths. She usually finds herself hiding her fears in front of him. In the ME3 cabin scene, she refuses to actually tell him "I need hope, too" and doesn't allow him the chance to support her... even in the ME1 cabin scene, FemShep looked strangely scared/vulnerable when she looked at Kaidan sleeping. Anyone else notice that?    

 

http://oi58.tinypic.com/20rpi8p.jpg

 

Maybe that's just my FemShep's face. But I headcanon that ever since she realized she loved him, she became scared of losing him and was always afraid of relying on him because of how high-risk their missions are. So she's extremely close to Kaidan, but as more than a comrade and a friend. He's her lover.

 

I'm rambling now. So yeah, Garrus and Miranda.

[GalacticWolf5]

I treat the comics as utter bs written by a complete incompetent.

You do realize those comics were written by the same person who was lead writer of ME 2-3, right?

[God]

You do realize those comics were written by the same person who was lead writer of ME 2-3, right?

 

And much of his writing in those games is crap.

 

I defend a lot of BW's choices and actions at certain points, but still, Mac Walters isn't really that good of a writer. In fact, he's a rather obnoxious comic book writer.

[Valmar]

 

What I don't like is that when something happens, the whole crew just goes to their own businesses, completely forgetting about Shepard and his agenda.

ME1-ME2 - only Liara cares enough to recover Shepard's body

ME2-ME3 - only Thane cares enough to send a message

I guess it was Thane for my Shepard. Him and Tali

 

 

It does make a certain degree of sense, though. I mean out of all of them Liara is the only one without a life to get back to. She has no responsibilities or family left. Wrex has his people, Tali has her people, Ashley/Kaidan have Alliance and Garrus has C-Sec. Though, granted, his excuse is a bit weak. Liara on the other hand has all the time in the world because she has nothing.

 

 

I treat the comics as utter bs written by a complete incompetent.

 

So too then is the Citadel DLC as both of these lead back to the clone. Lore is lore. Casting it aside just because it doesn't sit favorably with your LI shouldn't be an option.

[Vazgen]

It does make a certain degree of sense, though. I mean out of all of them Liara is the only one without a life to get back to. She has no responsibilities or family left. Wrex has his people, Tali has her people, Ashley/Kaidan have Alliance and Garrus has C-Sec. Though, granted, his excuse is a bit weak. Liara on the other hand has all the time in the world because she has nothing.

I can understand reasons of aliens. But why Ash/Kaidan didn't petition for reclaiming Shepard's body? Or Anderson? The Alliance should've sent at least someone to check out the wreckage. Instead they wait for two years and have the audacity to ask Shepard to do the job.

But those two would've still been my Shepard's best friends. Tali, because they are both Engineers from military families, they have a lot in common. Thane, because of his level-headed and calm personality. 

[RVallant]

I can understand reasons of aliens. But why Ash/Kaidan didn't petition for reclaiming Shepard's body? Or Anderson? The Alliance should've sent at least someone to check out the wreckage. Instead they wait for two years and have the audacity to ask Shepard to do the job.

But those two would've still been my Shepard's best friends. Tali, because they are both Engineers from military families, they have a lot in common. Thane, because of his level-headed and calm personality. 

 

Well... It's the Alliance.

 

They're likely to have an inquiry followed up by an investigation, this may or may not be a joint effort between the Humans and Turians - who may very well want to know why the most advanced joint-venture ship just got nuked. As the council funded some of it, they would probably get involved and we all know how long they like to drag their feet about things and when it became easier to just deny the Reapers and just shut down Anderson, its likely they felt no real urgency to determine Shepards whereabouts.

 

Ash/Kaiden would be swallowed up by the military and would likely have no real recourse to getting anywhere, I don't think Ash has much leeway with the Alliance anyway, really the main guy who can do anything about it seems to be Anderson.

 

On that note the 'best friend' from a neutral perspective seems to be Garrus to me. 

[Valmar]

I can understand reasons of aliens. But why Ash/Kaidan didn't petition for reclaiming Shepard's body? Or Anderson? The Alliance should've sent at least someone to check out the wreckage. Instead they wait for two years and have the audacity to ask Shepard to do the job.

But those two would've still been my Shepard's best friends. Tali, because they are both Engineers from military families, they have a lot in common. Thane, because of his level-headed and calm personality. 

 

My headcanon reasoning?

 

Ash: "He's with god now."

Kaidan: "Finding his body won't bring him back."

Anderson: "I hate my job."

Alliance: "Now we can use him in recruitment ads without his permission!"

 

 

Personally I don't blame any of them for not really looking for the body. By all accounts there shouldn't even be a body left. Though, interestingly enough, we don't really find any bodies during that mission ourselves. We find dogtags.

[Han Shot First]

You do realize those comics were written by the same person who was lead writer of ME 2-3, right?

 

Regardless of who wrote them, it is an accurate description of the comics. 

 

They repeatedly contradict elements from the games or have characters from the games who are the stars in them, act out of character.

[Teddie Sage]

My main male Shepard considers Kaidan to be his soulmate and his best friend at the same time. Otherwise he likes to hang out with Garrus.

[Rasande]

In the comics, TIM allows Miranda to do tests on the clone after they realize they dont need him/her anymore.

 

Wait, that part with the clone is acually cannon? I always thought the Citadel plot was just toungue in cheak sillyness

 

My headcanon reasoning?

 

Ash: "He's with god now."

Kaidan: "Finding his body won't bring him back."

Anderson: "I hate my job."

Alliance: "Now we can use him in recruitment ads without his permission!"

 

 

Personally I don't blame any of them for not really looking for the body. By all accounts there shouldn't even be a body left. Though, interestingly enough, we don't really find any bodies during that mission ourselves. We find dogtags.

 

That's as good reasoning as any. I personally try not to think about it since the only reasons Shepard died in the first place was so the player would accept starting again from level1 and give an incentive to accept working for Cerberus. Otherwise they'd probably would've done abit more with the fact that Shepard is HALF ****** ROBOT that's been missing for 2 years! Not to mention she was stone cold dead and they brought her back like frickin Frankenstein and everyone is like "-oh but you're back now tho, right? That's cool...."

 

Serisouly... the writing in this series sometimes, it makes me wonder why i love it so much.

 

Oh right, the games are fun as hell, nevermind.

[Loufi]

If ____ is the LI, Liara is her best friend.

 

If Liara is the LI, Garrus is the best friend.

+1.

[GalacticWolf5]

Wait, that part with the clone is acually cannon? I always thought the Citadel plot was just toungue in cheak sillyness

Yes it is canon. Every DLC is canon.

[wright1978]

Regardless of who wrote them, it is an accurate description of the comics. 
 
They repeatedly contradict elements from the games or have characters from the games who are the stars in them, act out of character.

Indeed. Hence why I see no reason to consider them as canon, even if the incompetent who wrote them was Mac walters.

[Valmar]

Personal feelings do not dictate what is canon lore. It either is or it isn't. The comics are official canon until Bioware claim otherwise.

[Han Shot First]

Personal feelings do not dictate what is canon lore. It either is or it isn't. The comics are official canon until Bioware claim otherwise.

 

See but that's where it gets complicated. Some of the comics have trouble keeping the lore straight, and are out odds with information provided in the games.

 

I agree that overall the comics are part of the official canon. But where the comics conflict with the games, I'd hold the games to be a higher level of canon. Basically if the two are at odds, the information in the game is canon and the comic is not.

[God]

See but that's where it gets complicated. Some of the comics have trouble keeping the lore straight, and are out odds with information provided in the games.

 

I agree that overall the comics are part of the official canon. But where the comics conflict with the games, I'd hold the games to be a higher level of canon. Basically if the two are at odds, the information in the game is canon and the comic is not.

 

I would argue that some of the flagrant character contradiction in regards to Miranda falls under this. They did not always portray her well in the comics given the contradictory nature of her missions.

[Rasande]

Yes it is canon. Every DLC is canon.

 

Well what sets Citadel appart from the rest is that it's the last DLC and mainly just fan service, And the tone is completely diffirent with a plot and writing that's intentionally terrible for humor.

 

I mean they didn't release it for the sake of expanding the story like Leviathan, they released for the fans that were they could say goodbye to the characters( and maby a thinly veiled **** you in there aswell).

The way i see it it's about as much cannon as the Star Wars Xmas special.

[God]

Well what sets Citadel appart from the rest is that it's the last DLC and mainly just fan service, And the tone is completely diffirent with a plot and writing that's intentionally terrible for humor.

 

I mean they didn't release it for the sake of expanding the story like Leviathan, they released for the fans that were they could say goodbye to the characters( and maby a thinly veiled **** you in there aswell).

The way i see it it's about as much cannon as the Star Wars Xmas special.

 

Which is, sadly, still part of the Disney canon. 

 

It was part of the EU, but still reconcilable with everything in the franchise up to that point. 

 

I miss the EU. Despite what the execs and writers said about the whole legends thing and how 'it's not really dead', it is. They're shoving it aside for the sake of their new story. 

 

Some people have proposed alternate theories, like the multiverse theory for star wars, but my view is that the higher ups at least consider the EU well and truly dead. I mean, they can't even let the novels go on under the legends banner and call it 'not our canon' or whatever. That's what I wish they would do.

 

There's a site somewhere on the internet that's dedicated to keeping the old EU alive, and I think a couple of the writers for the old books are actually contributing short stories to the site. 

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 ME1: Kaidan and Wrex, definitely. Kaidan is always supportive, you mourn the Virmire Casualty together (which nobody else seems to care about). He is also the only one who talks about the new girl when your squad recruits her (Liara). Compare that to Garrus who talks about non-existent ladies always paying more attention to him than you in the next game. As for Wrex, well, it was a friendship built from his winning personality and trust that was earned over time. We were true brothers-in-arms (cliched as that may be).

 

ME2: Kasumi, and Mordin. It was fun to go and listen to Kasumi gossip your ear off. In this episode, none of the potential LI companions really cared to forge any meaningful relationship with your PC if you did not pursue their romance, save for Thane, so there goes 5 of them. But Mordin was a true friend, giving me safe-sex advice and everything, as well as other interesting talks. The rest were not very close to my Shep. Garrus was most certainly not my "bro," despite masquerading around as such. Only two meaningful conversations, then it's calibrations 24/7 (again, LI characters only seem to care if you romance them).

 

ME3: Kaidan, Javik, and Garrus. Garrus actually felt like a friend this time around. Kaidan was Kaidan. Javik I could relate to a lot as an old soldier and as a more renegade-minded personality. James and my Shepard were close, but my Shepard was getting old and saw himself more as James's mentor than buddy. I've always loved EDI, but again, not a buddy. She is more like a daughter to him. I generally try to avoid Liara. Tali does not join 'til late, and by that point, I already felt the ship too crowded.

[luckybaer]

I don't know if my Shepards really had a best friend.  There isn't really anyone to whom I can see my Shepards opening up to.  Sure, Shepard has been to battle with Garrus and they have tons of great stories - "Just like old times, Shepard," says Garrus in ME2, but there seems to be a line that Shepard won't cross with Garrus.  I just don't see him opening up and talking about his innermost concerns with Garrus - or anyone, for that matter.

 

The only time any of my Shepards ended up in a romance with anyone was with Liara, and I could see Liara being a best friend - unless being the love interest negates best friend status.  It shouldn't.  In real life, my wife is my best friend - I don't trust anyone with my feelings except her.

 

Miranda was always too cold and distant, as well as too blindly loyal to Cerberus for my Shepards' tastes.

 

Jacob was always a trusted subordinate, but that was it.

 

Zaeed was a mercenary and there was professional respect, but that was it.

 

Thane was too philosophical for my Shepards.

 

My Shepards all liked Samara, but saw her more as a sage and a mentor - probably due to the fact she was a few hundred years old.

 

Jack?  Jack was more like an ass-kicking drinking buddy.  I could see Jack and my Shepards going out and getting into bar fights and all kinds of trouble to blow off steam, but nothing more than that.  

 

Grunt declared Shepard his Battlemaster (I think that's what Grunt called him), and someone that he would fight and die for.  But I always felt that it was more a relationship based on Shepard being the "warrior chief" and Grunt being his #1 warrior.  Grunt would be a character my Shepards could go to  and get pumped up with before a battle.  Or, he'd be a great guy to sit around with and harken back to glorious battles.  Grunt is very Klingon-like.  As he mellowed out and found himself (his "purpose"), I often found myself comparing him to Worf from Star Trek.  Grunt had to sort out all the thoughts crammed into his head while being "tank bred," and Work had to come to grips with just being himself and not having to be the uber-Klingon to make up for the fact that he was raised by humans.

 

Kasumi?  Nah... I remember my Shepards talking to her in ME2.  She had the attention span of a gnat, and she was always waxing nostalgic about her lost love - what was his name?  Kenji?  Something like that... lol

 

Tali?  I could see it happening.  Although my Shepards always regarded Tali as a sister.  Which, when I think about it, could have made Tali a best friend of any of my Shepards.

 

Mordin?  Haha!

 

James?  No.  A subordinate, and one less mature than Jacob.

 

Kaiden - don't know him well enough yet.

 

Ashley?  Too moody.  And, the slight rebuff in ME2 irked my Shepards.

 

Again, I just don't see Shepard really letting anyone know him well enough to be considered a best friend.  Perhaps Liara and maybe Tali - because he could show his emotions to a female and not have to worry about being chided for having those emotions.  That would be a concern any of my male Shepards would have when talking to a Garrus, for example.  And, for goodness sake, Shepard would never take the risk of appearing weak in front of Grunt!

[D Wrecks]

For my Shepard, Tali and Garrus. Played with them mostly in all three games. My Shepard was an infiltrator, by the way. Now I know what you're thinking: how could I play with no biotics whatsoever? Well **** your space magic - that's how.

[dreamgazer]

Kelly Chambers, followed closely by Space Hamster.

[DanishGambit]

Marauder Shields             

 

     /jk

 

Garrus was the man but Joker was there since day one. Interestingly though Shepard was the wing man for both characters.