So who was the modders name because I hope people will stand up for her and show her we care and don't approve of bullying
Does anyone agree?
She needs a friend
Her forum name here and her Tumblr name was Andrastes ****** (she was previously Andrastes Sanctified Girdle on Tumblr)
* comments are made on person's mod page
* comments are sent privately to the author
* mod page gets deleted
there you go, the supposedly impossible thing in the world of social media. Since the whole drama erupted after it was pulled I doubt anyone was archiving comments before it happened.
(for what's worth, the person in question says she received lot of negative anon messages on tumblr as well)
I'm sorry but I can't see it happening on Tumblr. That mod would get nothing but praise there.
There are three things universally hated on Tumblr. Straight people, white people, and white straight people.
I hadn't heard about this but think it's pretty pathetic. No one is forced to use the mod and trying to control someone's play-through just because you don't like how a person plays is bullcrap at the least. I'm not interested in using the mod because I want Cassandra's dialogue to support a female romance(and still cannot understand why they didn't get a VO who would do this!) but I damn sure wouldn't condemn anyone else for using the mod. And I'll be damned if I'd be such a knucledragging jerk and harass the person that made such a mod just like I wouldn't harass anymore for making or using cheatcodes in a freaking single player... Seriously, what the hell people? Where did we go wrong as a gaming community that being a complete asswipe of a dick is now part of the norm?
Her forum name here and her Tumblr name was Andrastes ****** (she was previously Andrastes Sanctified Girdle on Tumblr)
Why is that word censored? 
She made the mod, she knew it would upset people. She should have expected this behaviour from the community. And what about the people she upset by making the mod, and some of her comments on tumblr?
My friend got upset because she likes short haircuts, and gets called 'gay' a lot, and was assaulted by people in LBGT. She was very upset by this mod. She voiced her opinion to someone, and she was instantly dismissed because 'insert its different cause your straight comment'. So my sympathy for the modder is 2%. Did the modder give any consideration to the people she would upset, by making the mod? No she didn't, she went ahead and posted it, and boasted about it.
Bullying is never okay, but she is not the innocent victim she claims she is. She can't do what she has done, and expect people not to react angrily. This is typical hypocritical SJW behaviour at it's finest.
Yay for victim blaming!
If it was me I would have taken screenshots of all the hate I received and posted it. I've have friends who have gotten both anonymous and non anonymous hate on Tumblr and they've always taken screenshots of it.
That would depend, I think.
Archiving screenshots as a safeguard can certainly be a good idea, but publicizing is actually not usually a good idea.
One of the first things a police officer will tell you, if you've received a credible threat or are being criminally harassed, is not to publicize the event. This is for several reasons: It encourages copycat behaviour, it creates the notion that people can engage in the behaviour and get away with it, in many cases it generates the exact attention that the person doing the harassment is hoping to create, and it makes it more difficult for law enforcement to investigate and ultimately intervene in the harassment.
Edit: For similar reasons, that is why the moderators on BSN encourage people to report issues privately, rather than engage the individuals, or make pubic threads about it.
Well, she insulted people in both the straight and LBGT community with this mod. She provoked them, so she is just as responsible for what happened as the 'rape commenter' is. She also said upsetting things to the straight community on tumblr, and that is also a form of bullying.
Straight person here, I didn't see anything that I considered upsetting to the straight community. BTW, you are not the spokesperson for the straight community, just because you might find something upsetting doesn't mean other straight people will and vice versa
On Tumblr...you just turn anonymous off but I've known people who have received hate non anonymously there. I think that rape comment got seriously miscontrued. And Nexus is VERY strict about stuff like that. I know an Origins modder who had some experiences there but they got dealt with quickly.
With the way Social Media is...its very easy to take screenshots and document the hate you receive.
Then I'm still very confused about all of this.
I guess I'm just not really comfortable with the extent to which people are making assumptions about what happened, and the conflation of it with a more general discussion about mods and the nature of some of them.
Seriously, what the hell people? Where did we go wrong as a gaming community that being a complete asswipe of a dick is now part of the norm?
I don't agree that whatever happened is evidence that that is the case.
I'm sorry but I can't see it happening on Tumblr. That mod would get nothing but praise there.
There are three things universally hated on Tumblr. Straight people, white people, and white straight people.
There are plenty of non 'SJWs' on tumblr or is there a sign-up rule I'm not aware of?
A couple of things I want to say here. If people want to mod a character just so they can do the dirty duet with em, let them. No skin off my ass. The hate that mod creator received was entirely unwarranted. It's just a fictional pixelated character in a video game. No actual, IRL sexual orientations were affected in the modding of this character. With that being said, I really wish people would just freaking accept that a character is straight. Being straight is its own identity, just as being gay is its own identity, etc etc.
Trying to turn everyone bisexual just to please every one and their mother is marginalizing and does nothing but decrease the potential of certain characters' personalities and identity.
I'm sorry but I can't see it happening on Tumblr. That mod would get nothing but praise there.
There are three things universally hated on Tumblr. Straight people, white people, and white straight people.
Well, the mod author says she got anonymous hate messages on tumblr. There's only two possible explanation at this point:I'm sorry but I can't see it happening on Tumblr. That mod would get nothing but praise there.
There are three things universally hated on Tumblr. Straight people, white people, and white straight people.
How exactly does a gay mod in of itself warrant death threats and rape allegations?
Upsetting things to straights or the chuckleheads attacking her *assuming ofcourse you have evidence to back this claim up*?
She deleted her Tumblr so all evidence of these supposed comments is gone and the only thing I saw on the Nexus is her saying she didn't want people fighting over the mod
Negative messages is broad enough to include both of these. I'm not sure what is the point of debating this, really. Do people now need to prove with screenshots and citations that they really got harassed bad enough for the Universal Intrawebs Harassment Committee to sagely nod their collective heads and go "Yup, this is bad enough harassment, alright"? Or that if there's no literal death or rape threats, then it's all fine? Or is it just a desire to see some more details of the sizzling trainwreck before it comes to a stop?But even her statements about it do not support the idea that she was given death threats or rape threats.
She deleted her Tumblr so all evidence of these supposed comments is gone and the only thing I saw on the Nexus is her saying she didn't want people fighting over the mod
Bits and pieces from her page still remain on Twitter with the right hashtags.
Having seen the kind of harrasment that people are subjected too online I'm not shocked about the fact that she may well have received death and rape threats. The Internet is filled with arseholes.
I don't have an opinion on the mod one way or the other as I don't really play as female characters (with one Qunari shaped exception)
Because we are not allowed to see exposed breasts on the BSN.Why is that word censored?
I'm sure that's exactly what Greg Ellis intended to happen. I know my first thought when I hear "smother her/him with kindness" is "threat them with death!" and harassment.
jumping jesus on a pogo stick, wtf is wrong with people.
The fact is you don't put up stranger's personal details on the internet in the first place.
Because we are not allowed to see exposed breasts on the BSN.
(or the four letter equivalent, in this case)
Pffft
booooooo
Negative messages is broad enough to include both of these. I'm not sure what is the point of debating this, really. Do people now need to prove with screenshots and citations that they really got harassed bad enough for the Universal Intrawebs Harassment Committee to sagely nod their collective heads and go "Yup, this is bad enough harassment, alright"? Or that if there's no literal death or rape threats, then it's all fine? Or is it just a desire to see some more details of the sizzling trainwreck before it comes to a stop?
That's a very extreme response. Are you really telling me that someone saying that they received negative messages should result in a broad assumption that they received death threats and rape threats? 
I don't believe that what she posted supports that assumption. Clearly, many people do feel that is what she was referring to. The point that I was trying to make was that making those kind of assumptions when she didn't say anything about death threats or rape threats, and then using them to paint broad strokes about an entire community is a reaction that I am uncomfortable with and confused about.
How does that translate into me saying that harassment is okay if there are not death threats? How does that translate into me wanting to watch a train wreck? Why are you now making personal assumptions about me when I never said anything like that?
Cassandra's writer has repeatedly expressed indifference to how people mod their games, including with respect to characters' sexual orientations.
Isn't David Gaider her writer?
That may be true, but it doesn't mean that they would approve of someone doing it with the specific intent of spiting people.
The mod creator didn't creat the mod to spite people
The mod creator didn't creat the mod to spite people
He was talking about the people saying they'll use the mod just to ****** off the people criticizing it
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