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[thats1evildude]

God, just because I give you gifts and constantly tell you how beautiful you are and I turn down other women and I asked you to marry me and I spent my life with you doesn't mean I LOVE you. Grow the **** up.

[Lazengan]

God, just because I give you gifts and constantly tell you how beautiful you are and I turn down other women and I asked you to marry me and I spent my life with you doesn't mean I LOVE you. Grow the **** up.

 

building a relationship around this is kind of pathetic

[Raiil]

building a relationship around this is kind of pathetic

 

 

What precisely are relationships supposed to be built around?

[thats1evildude]

building a relationship around this is kind of pathetic

What? Love and respect? Yes, those things are relationship-killers. When you lose them, what are you left with?

And I totally see your point, OP. People in RL would never confuse constant supportiveness for friendship.

[Orian Tabris]

And I totally see your point, OP. People in RL would never confuse constant supportiveness for friendship.

 

Some people do. Well, it depends on how constant, and how supportive, the support is.

[Lazengan]

What? Love and respect? Yes, those things are relationship-killers. When you lose them, what are you left with?

And I totally see your point, OP. People in RL would never confuse constant supportiveness for friendship.

 

Would someone who loves you, mindlessly agree with every aspect of your life?

 

would they not argue about certain things, especially if they care about you and do  not want you to be affected negatively by something? such as smoking or drinking?

[jlb524]

I do miss the rival system tbh.

[thats1evildude]

Some people do. Well, it depends on how constant, and how supportive, the support is.

Your sarcasm detector is broken.

@v: Yes, that was sarcasm.

[Orian Tabris]

Your sarcasm detector is broken.

 

Oh... well I was being serious. Were you being sarcastic about the "People in RL would never confuse constant supportiveness for friendship." part?

 

Perhaps my learning disability kicked in. Kinda confused here.

[Zatche]

Would someone who loves you, mindlessly agree with every aspect of your life?

would they not argue about certain things, especially if they care about you and do not want you to be affected negatively by something? such as smoking or drinking?

I don't see how the word "mindlessly" applies to either the game or evil dude's idea of being supportive.

[Hazegurl]

I personally would like the rivalry system back. I don't always agree with my friends and yet we're still friends...cause ya know, we're expected to have our own minds being adults and all. 

 

Also, Hate sex is always good for any relationship.

 

Overall, I want the rivalry system back for the next game and I want to be able to hide companion approval/disapproval.

[Bocochoco]

Casandra from what I've learned about her is notoriously hard to get along with. She knows she's a ****** but her heart is always on the right place. It's the way she was raised and trained. She allowed herself to be branded as a traitor to the chantry and hunted as an enemy so that she could save them.
Those she respects are those who sacrifice their own lives for the betterment of others.
It has nothing to do with attitude. If anything, being a total ****** to her, while she may disapprove, may only serve to strengthen her resolve to support you as that would be to mirror her own blatant, accusatory, and to the point personality.

[Aaleel]

Sorry Bioware that's not how real life works

 

why are we back at this approval brownose jerk system again?

 

Rivalry system was far better, it could have used some fine tuning

 

I hated Cassandra, absolutely hated her. I did her personal quests to ensure that she could concentrate on the task at hand, then I allowed Varic to troll her with his book. Later I told her to do whatever she wanted to do with the seekers. Then all of a sudden she starts calling me my friend. The hell? I would tell you to leave if I could

 

This is pretty much exactly how life works a lot of the time.  Plenty of people have 'friends' who tell exactly what they want to hear, stroke their ego, or whatever you want to call it as long as they have something they want or need.  Obviously the person really isn't your friend but plenty of people think the person is.

[o Ventus]

Casandra from what I've learned about her is notoriously hard to get along with. 

She is, without a shadow of a doubt, the easiest companion in the game to get along with. I would go so far as to say the easiest companion in the game to gain approval for. Literally all you have to do is be reasonable and not be a d**k.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Actually that is how real life works the vast majority of the time.

Yup.

 

But I admit, it can be boring.

[robertmarilyn]

Err, no, I actually liked Cassandra the most of the characters in the game. I can like her and still raise my eyebrows over how she basically praises the Inquisitor for recruiting the Mages despite 'greatly disapproving' a moment ago.

 

What Cass is approving of is that the Inquisitor made a tough decision quickly, when a decision needed to be made. 

 

Now I see that ThreeF already said it. 

[Phoe77]

Nah, you get approval with Cole for finishing like every sidequest in the game. 

 

I miss the rivalry system, but I think that approval was done fairly well in this game.  The characters seemed to be fairly consistent in what types of behaviors they agree with, and there are methods to stay on their good sides even if you make choices that they may not agree with.  I think it's actually fairly realistic that the companions will overlook differences of beliefs if you're willing to help them with something that's important to them personally.

 

But man do I miss the rivalry system.  

[Galactus]

Actually that is how real life works the vast majority of the time.

lol, exactly my thoughts.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Same here. Cassandra disagreed with almost every single thing my Lavellan did even though I did them because I was just in-character as opposed to going out of my way to spite her.

 

My character: -

• Took the mountain pass.
• Told her I do not believe in the Maker.
• Allied with the rebel mages.
• United Celene & Briala and executed Gaspard.
• Allowed the Grey Wardens to stay and work with the Inquisition.
• Absolved Thom Rainier of his crimes.
• Did not drink from the Well of Sorrows. 

& all I had to do was give Cassandra a smutty badly written book and let her go and do whatever she wants with the Seekers and she is now my Inquisitor's friend. Lol say what ?!

 

I preferred the Rivalry & Friendship system far better. It allowed you to have followers and companions who are diametrically opposed to your views but still be loyal to you. This new approval system, which is just Origins' approval system without numbers and markers, is not really very good.

 

That or Cassandra gets +100 approval for giving her that ridiculous book...

[leaguer of one]

Sorry Bioware that's not how real life works

 

why are we back at this approval brownose jerk system again?

 

Rivalry system was far better, it could have used some fine tuning

 

I hated Cassandra, absolutely hated her. I did her personal quests to ensure that she could concentrate on the task at hand, then I allowed Varic to troll her with his book. Later I told her to do whatever she wanted to do with the seekers. Then all of a sudden she starts calling me my friend. The hell? I would tell you to leave if I could

Cassandra and I bump heads all the time on some issues. We're besties. Freed the mages,she did not like that. Conscripted the wardens, she did not like that. I didn't drink from the well, she did not like that. And we're close friends.

[leaguer of one]

What? Love and respect? Yes, those things are relationship-killers. When you lose them, what are you left with?

And I totally see your point, OP. People in RL would never confuse constant supportiveness for friendship.

Even the rivalmance has love and support with in them. As well as disagreement.