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#301
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Personally I think the idea of the crucible is good enough, but it would need to have been introduced differently and perhaps a little bit later than the overwhelming (and poorly done) first impression both from newcomers and fans, that the reapers are in the galaxy in brute strength and not even 2 hours into the game someone tells us "we found the only way to defeat the reapers".
 

Personally I think that the concept of the Crucible should've been introduced by Vigil on Ilos back in the first Mass Effect and should've been tied with the Collector storyline of ME2. 

 

But the writers weren't thinking that far ahead.

But I agree that the idea of the Crucible was a good one. The idea that all the previous harvested civilizations worked together to give this a cycle a chance was great. But like several things in the ME trilogy, it was poorly executed.



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There's nothing wrong with a MacGuffin, but the Crucible is a huge DEM, and exactly what I distinctly remember one of the devs saying was not going to happen - "There's no Reaper off switch", which I guess is technically true since you shoot a tube instead of pushing a button.

 

I don't even have a problem with the existence of the Crucible itself. I'm happy with the 'no conventional victory' thing, and I enjoy the fact that the Crucible was developed over many different cycles, that way it's the culmination of hundreds of species' struggles which seems more fitting. I just hate the way it's fished out minutes after the prologue, in the most ridiculous way. Not even "I found it after months of searching", just "it was behind the sofa the entire time". Absolutely no foreshadowing, no build up, it just appears there. And moreover it completely nullifies anything we did against the Reapers before, suddenly seizing their top-secret Collector base and uncovering their method of production means absolutely nothing.

 

If the Crucible were something we actually had to learn about and work towards, I'd have no issues with it.



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I do notice there is a bit of unintentional foreshadowing back at the beginning of ME1.

 

Anderson: We don't know what information was stored in that beacon. Lost prothean technology? Blueprints for some ancient weapon of mass destruction?

 

But seriously, all of this stems from the fact Bioware had written themselves into a corner and had no clue how to end the trilogy.


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But seriously, all of this stems from the fact Bioware had written themselves into a corner and had no clue how to end the trilogy.

 

True.  It reminds me of "The Dark Tower" by Stephen King.  I was really let down by the ending of the that saga.   King wrote an apology of sorts and included it with the last book.  He admitted that he didn't know how to finish the story.



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True.  It reminds me of "The Dark Tower" by Stephen King.  I was really let down by the ending of the that saga.   King wrote an apology of sorts and included it with the last book.  He admitted that he didn't know how to finish the story.

I never read anything by King again after that last Dark Tower book.

 

Just saying...