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Not sure how many people have gone around making screen shots of the Elvish temple walls, or perhaps just looking. But I noticed one image in particular in my weird DA:I archaeological studies (primarily in Din'an Hanin in the Emerald Graves):

 

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So, the statue of Mythal is common in most temples in the game (her armour screams: Flemeth! So how I didn't pick it earlier is all down to my obliviousness). Behind her some lovely images of what I assume to be halla. Hornless. Apparently bloodied. Am I reading this image wrong with my warped sense of Elven art? Kind of a disturbing image to find, since we're told how the Dalish worship halla... but what about in the past?

 

Another for good measure (also found in Dan'in Hanin):

 

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It is probably telling some kind of story and we're just not seeing all of it.  Also, when I first saw the top image, I thought it might be a wolf, but now I can see the hint of horns sort of resting back from their heads.  And nice catch on the armor on Mythal.  I would not have caught that myself.



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I would be a bit cautious with the red="bloodied" assumption. Look at the murals in Temple of Mythal with very schematic colors where the steeds (be it halla or not) are black, riders white and red is used as an accent color along the edges... I could be wrong, but my first guess would be that this red is there (in the screens you provided) for decorative/artistic purposes and if they were supposed to be bleeding/wounded, it would be more apparent.
And red.. you know, everything looks more important with a little bit of red ;)

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I would be a bit cautious with the red="bloodied" assumption. Look at the murals in Temple of Mythal with very schematic colors where the steeds (be it halla or not) are black, riders white and red is used as an accent color along the edges... I could be wrong, but my first guess would be that this red is there (in the screens you provided) for decorative/artistic purposes and if they were supposed to be bleeding/wounded, it would be more apparent.
And red.. you know, everything looks more important with a little bit of red ;)

 

 

All other images including the colour red tend to be depictions of war and slavery. I can't help but see the link between the colour red, passion and blood. In our modern culture red is used to symbolise this, and I believe it is an effective colour of communication between artists and viewers.

 

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I just think all the art is a bit disturbing.    What seems most odd is that there is so much of it about and yet when this was the Dalish homeland they never picked up on it?   Just who did they think the images referred to?    Then again, look at the Arbor Wilds.     It was in the south of the Dalish homeland and yet during the 200 odd years they were there did no one attempt to approach it?    If they did and were attacked by odd looking elven like people, did no one question why this might be?    Given the modern Dalish are constantly sending people into ruins to try and recover artifacts, it seems odd that they didn't discover more when actually living there permanently.



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I just think all the art is a bit disturbing.    What seems most odd is that there is so much of it about and yet when this was the Dalish homeland they never picked up on it?   Just who did they think the images referred to?    Then again, look at the Arbor Wilds.     It was in the south of the Dalish homeland and yet during the 200 odd years they were there did no one attempt to approach it?    If they did and were attacked by odd looking elven like people, did no one question why this might be?    Given the modern Dalish are constantly sending people into ruins to try and recover artifacts, it seems odd that they didn't discover more when actually living there permanently.

Unless these are more recent, painted by someone who remembers that time. The graffiti is different than the mosaics.



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Unless these are more recent, painted by someone who remembers that time. The graffiti is different than the mosaics.

 

 

It could be, but the same style is found in Mythal's temple, which I presume has remained untouched for centuries -  since the time of the Elven pantheon's reign.


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I just think all the art is a bit disturbing.    What seems most odd is that there is so much of it about and yet when this was the Dalish homeland they never picked up on it?   Just who did they think the images referred to?    Then again, look at the Arbor Wilds.     It was in the south of the Dalish homeland and yet during the 200 odd years they were there did no one attempt to approach it?    If they did and were attacked by odd looking elven like people, did no one question why this might be?    Given the modern Dalish are constantly sending people into ruins to try and recover artifacts, it seems odd that they didn't discover more when actually living there permanently.

Never assumed they were present at the time the Dalish ruled.



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It could be, but the same style is found in Mythal's temple, which I presume has remained untouched for centuries -  since the time of the Elven pantheon's reign.

Abelas talks about younger generations, though. Could be someone who awoke from Uthenera.

 

I'm not sure if you've read The Masked Empire, but I'm thinking about a character from that novel who would be the type to paint stuff like this.


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Abelas talks about younger generations, though. Could be someone who awoke from Uthenera.

 

I'm not sure if you've read The Masked Empire, but I'm thinking about a character from that novel who would be the type to paint stuff like this.

 

 

Maybe so, I would be interested to know more of what happened, however I doubt we'll be given any info about paintings. It's certainly possible that it's graffiti - I just suspect the likelihood of the same artist travelling Thedas and covering the walls but leaving statues unblemished is low. But, I guess we'll never know and speculation is all we have.


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I just think all the art is a bit disturbing.    What seems most odd is that there is so much of it about and yet when this was the Dalish homeland they never picked up on it?   Just who did they think the images referred to?    Then again, look at the Arbor Wilds.     It was in the south of the Dalish homeland and yet during the 200 odd years they were there did no one attempt to approach it?    If they did and were attacked by odd looking elven like people, did no one question why this might be?    Given the modern Dalish are constantly sending people into ruins to try and recover artifacts, it seems odd that they didn't discover more when actually living there permanently.

I think you underestimate how BIG Thedas is. Dales were a vast land and at the time there were less people in Thedas than there is now. Then there's the fact that a relatively big chunk of history o elven Dales coincides with 2nd Blight and we have accounts of blight-related darkspawn activity in Ferelden with main darkspawn force active in the east. This pretty much implies that while they never helped humans, Dalish had their own war with Darkspawn, not on the same scale maybe, but that definitely seems to be enough to discourage any archeological attempts at searching through the pristine forests of the far South.
Basically, they had those big forests where nobody really lived and rare travelers tended to be lost without a trace - and then there appeared quite a lot darkspawn there. I find it perfectly logical that some ruins still remain untouched from the times of Arlathan itself. After all, these are just tiny dots you need to stumble upon in a vast forest that takes months to traverse... If it would be additionally concealed from most common scrying magic - finding by chance something like ToM is a nigh-miracle.

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This may be recorded about the battle with the void.



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All other images including the colour red tend to be depictions of war and slavery. I can't help but see the link between the colour red, passion and blood. In our modern culture red is used to symbolise this, and I believe it is an effective colour of communication between artists and viewers.

 

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Or corruption. Remember what red lyrium does.


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It kind of looks like the outline of Flemeth's face.



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Or corruption. Remember what red lyrium does.

Ancient elves used red lyrium. Calling it right now.


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Or corruption. Remember what red lyrium does.

 

I think you're on to something. Red lyrium. Corrupted Old Gods. It could've corrupted Andruil when she went hunting for the Old Gods/Others. Corypheus was all up in the red lyrium after "entering the Gold City".


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