I can't understand how in Mass Effect 3, Legion can defeat and choke Shepard.. also, Dr. Eva (If you didn't shoot her) she hit Shepard with an Omni Tool and he is dead...
The guy's been fighting a Yahg and actually held his own. How can possibly Legion and Dr. Eva possibly defeat Shepard?
They made Shepard into kind of a wimp, I didn't like it..
Don't get me wrong. Mass Effect 3 was awesome. Especially the Tuchanka's and Rannoch's parts of the game.
Anyone has the answers I seek?
Thanks.
A synthetic machine platform like the bodies of Legion and Dr. Core are likely capable of a lot torque and power that an organic would not normally have without substantial augmentations. It's quite possible that the Yahg is a brute strength beast, while lacking the same kind of precise power that a synthetic might have.
Hit Shepard with an omnitool... by that you mean she impaled his chest with a enormous omnitool blade, the very type Shepard can use to finish off Kai Leng. Frankly if that didn't kill him I'd be surprised.
Legion is a machine, its little surprise it can hold up Shepard. Saren was able to left up and choke Shepard one-handed aswell. The real crime in this scene is that Legion, a machine, gets taken out by a little dagger in the backplate.
If you consider these two instances to be "wimpy" (one of which was in ME1 in regards to Legion's throat-grip) then I don't know what to tell you. Just how much testosterone do you need for something to be manly and fierce? Even Wrex, the walking testosterone tank, is a wimp in the cutscenes if you turn on him. Wrex and Legion's weakness stand out a lot more to me than Shepard dying frorm a giant blade impaling his chest or being lifted by a geth.
Oh, btw? That wimp survived Harbinger's laser blast, getting shot, bleeding out, having the citadel explode around him and get crushed by rubble. What a pansy!
I love the scene when Legion gets taken out with a dagger. Tali carefully aims her strike, she knows exactly where to stick her dagger. I think it shows her knowledge of the geth. Raan, for example, uses a shotgun (which seems more weird to me since the blast from a shotgun is likely to hit Shepard as well).
The knowledge of geth should play no role here. FFS, they are friggin' machines... it's not like they have vital parts in which you can stab them to kill them. From that point, Raan's action actually makes more sense(even though I agree with you on chance of blowing Shepard's noggin away as well), since a shotgun blast does a much greater structural damage to the platform than a knife ever could and thus carries a much better chance of incapacitating the geth.
The knowledge of geth should play no role here. FFS, they are friggin' machines... it's not like they have vital parts in which you can stab them to kill them.
I'm not so sure about that part. We already know per ME1 that Tali disabled a Geth platform without damaging it's memory core. I believe this to be difficult to do with a shotgun, so maybe she used the same approach already there.
Wild speculation partially based on unreliable game mechanics ahead:
As per ME2 and 3 Geth (and most other enemies) have a headshot -bonus. This indicates they do have 'vital parts'.
Their platform design seemingly did not change since the Quarians first created them. Considering that their original purpose was civilian use, redundancy of vital components would increase production cost without adding a noticeable value. So the 'modern' geth platforms may very well have isolated vital parts -be it main processing elements, bus-systems or similar.
I never really gave much thought to how Tali strikes Legion. I guess it would've made more sense if she used her omnitool to zap the sh*t out of him or something, but whatever. It's easy to reconcile this by just taking the multiple renegade interrupts that have you shoot Legion over and over and over and over again.
Edit: So she does zap him with her omnitool? Cool. I never kill Legion so my memory on this is fuzzy.
I'm not so sure about that part. We already know per ME1 that Tali disabled a Geth platform without damaging it's memory core. I believe this to be difficult to do with a shotgun, so maybe she used the same approach already there.
Wild speculation partially based on unreliable game mechanics ahead:
As per ME2 and 3 Geth (and most other enemies) have a headshot -bonus. This indicates they do have 'vital parts'.
Their platform design seemingly did not change since the Quarians first created them. Considering that their original purpose was civilian use, redundancy of vital components would increase production cost without adding a noticeable value. So the 'modern' geth platforms may very well have isolated vital parts -be it main processing elements, bus-systems or similar.
Just to be a snob-lore-nerd, best to my memory, Tali zapped a geth with her omnitool then shot it in the back with her shotgun. The Homeworlds comic tells the story of how she acquired that data. The data core whatchamacallit was in its head. Hence, headshot damage.
I can't understand how in Mass Effect 3, Legion can defeat and choke Shepard.. also, Dr. Eva (If you didn't shoot her) she hit Shepard with an Omni Tool and he is dead...
The guy's been fighting a Yahg and actually held his own. How can possibly Legion and Dr. Eva possibly defeat Shepard?
They made Shepard into kind of a wimp, I didn't like it..
Don't get me wrong. Mass Effect 3 was awesome. Especially the Tuchanka's and Rannoch's parts of the game.
Anyone has the answers I seek?
Thanks.
Really? REALLY?
I'm not sure whether I should give this a serious response or not.
I love the scene when Legion gets taken out with a dagger. Tali carefully aims her strike, she knows exactly where to stick her dagger. I think it shows her knowledge of the geth. Raan, for example, uses a shotgun (which seems more weird to me since the blast from a shotgun is likely to hit Shepard as well).
She had the level 5 choke upgrade.
I can't understand how in Mass Effect 3, Legion can defeat and choke Shepard.. also, Dr. Eva (If you didn't shoot her) she hit Shepard with an Omni Tool and he is dead...
The guy's been fighting a Yahg and actually held his own. How can possibly Legion and Dr. Eva possibly defeat Shepard?
They made Shepard into kind of a wimp, I didn't like it..
Don't get me wrong. Mass Effect 3 was awesome. Especially the Tuchanka's and Rannoch's parts of the game.
Anyone has the answers I seek?
Thanks.
Getting tooled by EVA is the punishment for missing her, getting strangled by legion is the consequence of betraying him. It's not so much about shepard being weak as it is about getting an appropriate response to certain actions. Even shepard can let down his/her guard or make mistakes.
Why? Because he hadn't drunk his Tupari that day.
Oh, btw? That wimp survived Harbinger's laser blast, getting shot, bleeding out, having the citadel explode around him and get crushed by rubble. What a pansy!
This made me laugh my frikkin' head off. Maybe because it's really late and I haven't slept, but when I got to that part I couldn't stop laughing.
Well done mate. I salute you. 
The knowledge of geth should play no role here. FFS, they are friggin' machines... it's not like they have vital parts in which you can stab them to kill them. From that point, Raan's action actually makes more sense(even though I agree with you on chance of blowing Shepard's noggin away as well), since a shotgun blast does a much greater structural damage to the platform than a knife ever could and thus carries a much better chance of incapacitating the geth.
Uhm, being a machine does not mean they don't have weaknesses. Even Reapers have one - the firing chamber. The geth have something too.
I always wondered if the Geth could have very well made better platforms (and perhaps they often did, with Primes, etc), but for the most part they didn't, because they wish to keep the closest physical forms as possible for when they reconcile with the Creators.
In fact, wondering if the Geth think this way about all things, seems to make sense a lot of things about the Geth.
For the Reapers, I think it is more out of a more Old God-y sense of tribute, than a more humanistic (for lack of a better word) attachment. Both may reflect the importance on origin/creators to the respective AI though.
So if Shepard fails to shoot Eva with his guns she actually quickly finishes her/him off due to the fact that she is a hyper-advanced killer robot that most likely is stronger than any human? Seems rather realistic to me.
And of course Legion can defeat Shepard in a fistfight after surprising and disarming her/him. He's a robot made of metal. Shepard isn't going to knock him out with his bare hands. Try hitting a thick metal plate with your hands. See if you can make a dent (Don't really do this. Spoiler alert: you will just break your own hand.)
So if Shepard fails to shoot Eva with his guns she actually quickly finishes her/him off due to the fact that she is a hyper-advanced killer robot that most likely is stronger than any human? Seems rather realistic to me.
And of course Legion can defeat Shepard in a fistfight after surprising and disarming her/him. He's a robot made of metal. Shepard isn't going to knock him out with his bare hands. Try hitting a thick metal plate with your hands. See if you can make a dent (Don't really do this. Spoiler alert: you will just break your own hand.)
That would be pretty silly.... [Insert screencap of Legion being KO'd by a knock to the head from a husk]
Shhh, shhhhh, shhhhhh.... shhh.... just go with it.
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