Greetings =)
So ... been through my First long n thorough Playthrough and wondered if my next Inquisitor should be the Zealous Andrastian kind.
Now here's the Question to be recognized as really faithful, does the Inquisitor need to be Human?
Or could you do that kind of Zealous Andrastian also with say, a Dwarf?
It didnt work out with an elf ( or atleast not for me , but I didnt really try, more like the other way around ).
Human is the easiest to pull off for obvious reasons.
Dwarf and Qunari are easily justified by you being a surface dwarf or vashoth respectively and potentially not having any attachment to the Stone or the Qun. You spent your entire life among humans and therefore are accustomed to their practices. Obviously, certain Chantry members may treat your qunari with disdain but that's natural given the history with people of your race.
Elf is the most difficult to pull off because you are a Dalish Elf.
A natural and believable progression path for the Andrastian Elf is to start as one who doubts in the elven gods and doesn't know what they believe. Throughout the game, especially after major events, you're given several opportunities to affirm your belief in being the Herald of Andraste and your belief in the Maker. Sera in particular is pretty good at helping you through the shift.
Thanks =)
That with the Dalish is only natural, would have wanted a Andrastian eleven anyway =)
Hm still cant really decide between Dwarf and Human, but since I think i'll do atleast ~5 playthroughs, I propably have the chance to give both of them a go =)
I made my Qunari a devout Andrastian. It seemed to fit really well to me: an outsider who is the only one of his own race hanging around, has never experienced the culture he came from, he logically would have been bullied and outcast. I headcanoned that his mother died escaping the Qun and his father died when he was young but was never a good parent (I mean the Qun doesn't exactly teach you this stuff). Logically the chantry would take him in as a child with no one to look after him. Faith can really help a person who is troubled and alone.
Dalish elf can say they believe in the Maker. Don't know why any would role play it like that but you can.
My latest inquisitor is a devoted Andrastian as well as an elf. It's really not all that difficult to RP, especially if she comes from a clan that frequently interacts with humans. It's not like the "conversion" HAS to happen during the game or anything.
It's pretty fun to play as well, I don't see why it should be any less of an option than a non-believer human. 
Yes, there are pro-Andrastian dialogue choices for all races. And some of your companions may be surprised.
Human is the easiest to pull off for obvious reasons.
Dwarf and Qunari are easily justified by you being a surface dwarf or vashoth respectively and potentially not having any attachment to the Stone or the Qun. You spent your entire life among humans and therefore are accustomed to their practices. Obviously, certain Chantry members may treat your qunari with disdain but that's natural given the history with people of your race.
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In DA Origins your warden may also have gained permission for the founding of a chantry temple in Orzammar. It would not be unreasonable to assume that dwarven brothers would also try to spread the word to surface dwellers as well.
Yes, you can be an Andrastian, regardless of your race. There are some options you don't have, early on. But later in the game, you can be as Andrastian as the Divine, if you want. Even as an elf.
I have six Inquisitors, all Andrastian, only one of them is human. So I know this from experience. From an RP standpoint, you have to allow for your character to change his/her mind about things and remove their preconceptions. I had a Full-on Dalish who ended up taking Solas's advice ad stopped believing in the Elven Pantheon and started listening to Cassandra when she spoke of the Maker. He's one of my favorite Inquisitors, just because he acts like a real protagonist,. He shows real change from the start of the story to the end.
Dalish elf can say they believe in the Maker. Don't know why any would role play it like that but you can.
I don't know if it's the writing of the series slowly evolving, or just my perspective on it, but back in Origins, I got the impression most of the Dalish didn't actually believe in the old myths anymore, but rather they just went through the motions, sort of like if they did everything they thought the old elves did, they'd be able to learn more about them. Basically, they become more insightful by trying to look at everything objectively. DA2, again, they didn't seem particularly spiritual.
If one assumes a similar sort of perspective from the Dalish Inquisitor, it's not too much of a stretch to see them slowly start to buy into their own religious hype, so to speak. However, it does also seem like there's a bit more of an assumption in this game than before, that the Dalish actually do believe in their myths (even if many of them may not actually be accurate to even the original versions of their stories). Then again, we don't get too many of the Dalish population involved...the Inquisitor's about the only one, really, and the other two elven perspectives both dislike the Dalish anyway.
Human noble lends itself to that with the noble background.
Dwarves are surfacers, they are suitable as Andtrastians. (As Varric shows.)
Qunari are rather ostracised by the chantry, so while they can be pro-Maker they probably don't have the chance to learn enough to be truly Andrastian (educated in it, anyway). As far as the Chantry and Andrastians are concerned all qunari are also Qunari. There are no non-Qunari qunari.
Elves are obv. Dalish.
Truth is only the humans actually lend themselves to it fully, because the Chantry doctrine does not make room for the other races. They're pretty racist. The other races do not join the clergy, and they are not considered the Maker's children.
Dalish elf can say they believe in the Maker. Don't know why any would role play it like that but you can.
The answer to that is simple: Because Cassandra believes. 
As CastonFolarus said, anyone could grow into an Andrastian. Life-changing events like all the crap that the Inquisitor goes through may cause some people to cling even harder to what they believe, but may also cause others to shift their worldview to embrace a new perspective if it truly "speaks" to them. Plus, between Cassandra, Leliana and Mother Giselle, there are good "role models" in the Inquisition for a more moderate/progressive version of the Chantry's teachings, one that embraces all people and recognizes that some supposedly sacred truths and traditions are in fact based on politics and prejudice instead of Andraste's own words.
Dalish elf can say they believe in the Maker. Don't know why any would role play it like that but you can.
Not and remain Dalish.
I mean I know Cass says "no room among your gods for one more?" - welp, not that one. Chant specifically says that 'as there is but one world, one life, one death, so there is but one god, and he is our Maker". Maker is intended to be entirely exclusionary, at least as far as the Andrastians are concerned.
So no room around the Maker for any Dalish gods.
Not and remain Dalish.
I mean I know Cass says "no room among your gods for one more?" - welp, not that one. Chant specifically says that 'as there is but one world, one life, one death, so there is but one god, and he is our Maker". Maker is intended to be entirely exclusionary, at least as far as the Andrastians are concerned.
So no room around the Maker for any Dalish gods.
The Chant is a man-made construct. It's not infallible. DAI more than demonstrates that.
The part about "spreading the Chant to all four corners of the world" is an allegory for making everyone believe in the Maker.
It doesn't imply that one cannot believe in other deities as well.
So I'm not exactly saying that Dalish people should believe in the Maker, but if they are convinced enough, why not?
Even a Dalish elf knows that their history is incomplete. Perhaps there is a Maker.
Hell...after the events of DAI, a Dalish Elf should be questioning unless they're blind zealots.
Fair enough, definitely true. But I would say after the events at the temple to the ending (and technically Inqi never sees the epilogue). I also agree that the Chant is not the be-all and end-all - but the Chant IS the only view of the Maker provided culturally so far.
The Maker is only ever packaged as Andrastian - Orlesian, or Tevine. Both varieties of Andrastian..ism (god that's long I'm calling it Andism now).... are monotheist. Even other countries that do not practice Andism as commonly, such as Rivain, still view the Maker in the same way Orlesian Andists do because the Exalted Marches bringing Andraste's word is how they learned about the Maker in the first place.
There may be parallels between the different religions that indicate the possibility the names are referring to the same guy (Like Yahweh and Allah, or Muhammed and Jesus do IRL).
Wouldn't need to make room for the Maker then, because he's already there.
I'd be inclined to thing that a Maker does exists, but not as Andists know him. However, the Dalish are so separate from human culture and philosophy they wouldn't recognise him. Certainly not while they still see their... godkings?... as actual gods. Until that view falls, and then it becomes a another case of 'well where's the real omnipotence then'.
As such I never play the Dalish as Andian, and have them merely 'meh maybe, idk n idc' about the Maker at best.
Moot point I suppose, since the Maker is supposed to never be confirmed one way or the other.
I actually had a lot of fun having my Dalish Elf grow into Andrastian belief. First, she tells Cassandra that she believes in the elven gods. And really, she doesn't believe what happened to her was an act of any god, just sheer dumb luck. But after surviving the destruction at the conclave, Rodrick's realization of the mountain path, and surviving the avalanche, she starts to believe that maybe the gods are on her side. It was fun to have that slow progression to the end of the game where she confident proclaims to Corypheus' that she's the Maker's chosen. She hasn't give up on the elven gods, but as Cassandra told her, is there not room for one more to believe in?
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