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[Addai]

Sorry, I was rambling and my thoughts didn't come out quite as clear as I'd hoped.

I figure among other elves it's not really a problem-- like you said, lots of your fellows in the CE origin think Nelaros is handsome, and I'm sure the same could be said of Tamlen as a DE. It's more how elf guys are perceived by other races.

I dunno, I guess that would call for so many generalizations as to be meaningless. We're told humans are attracted to elves but that could be as much about power dynamics and "exoticness" as physical characteristics. Like Garahel is considered charming and handsome, but the human queen in The Last Flight wants to bed him also because she has power over him, and I'm sure Vaughn wasn't playing predator in the alienage just because he has a fetish for elven women but because no one who would object could do anything about it.

[Elfyoth]

I dunno, I guess that would call for so many generalizations as to be meaningless. We're told humans are attracted to elves but that could be as much about power dynamics and "exoticness" as physical characteristics. Like Garahel is considered charming and handsome, but the human queen in The Last Flight wants to bed him also because she has power over him, and I'm sure Vaughn wasn't playing predator in the alienage just because he has a fetish for elven women but because no one who would object could do anything about it.

Wait she wanna bed him? And who is that  human queen? I didint read Last Flight

 

 

Edit: Sorry wrote that from iphone so a lot of spelling mistakes... see it again 

[Eliastion]

Wait she wanna bed? Abd what human queen? I didint read Last Flight

Another queen that wants an elf? That's some kind of rule, really. Andraste with Shartan, Trydda with "leaf-eared lover", Celene with Briala, Anora with Erlina... and afaik only two of those four are unconfirmed rumors.

[Eliastion]

Yeah I think you are right, Templars are Lay Sisters I think? That then became templars? I think that Elf can become Lay Sisters cuz Gaider have confirmed they can be Templars in the order.

Templars are ordained, if I'm not mistaken. Lay-sisters and lay-brothers are those that didn't take any vows, templars are a step higher (or at least deeper)
http://dragonage.wik...antry_Hierarchy

[Eliastion]

I have a question, the some of the vallaslin designs have changed from Da:O to DA:I, is this just bioware changing the designs or do the Dalish clans all have different designs?

I believe it's a bit of both. Complete lack of variation (not to mention having exactly the same Mythal design in Arlathan and currently) would be quite unnatural, after all, seeing as the clans are to large extent isolated from one another. I think it's likely that even within one clan variation of design would be greater than what the CC offers...
Though without some official source we can only guess.

[LobselVith8]

I'm curious, what does everyone want when it comes to the outcome of their respective elven Inquisitor? Whether or not it's within the boundaries of the game design, is there an epilogue that you specifically want for your Dalish protagonist?

[Addai]

Wait she wanna bed? Abd what human queen? I didint read Last Flight

Queen of the Anderfels. Garahel had to pimp himself out to her to get her support in the Blight. Wardens do what they must, including spreading dat taint.

[Elfyoth]

Queen of the Anderfels. Garahel had to pimp himself out to her to get her support in the Blight. Wardens do what they must, including spreading dat taint.

 

 

LOL 

[Han Yolo]

I'm curious, what does everyone want when it comes to the outcome of their respective elven Inquisitor? Whether or not it's within the boundaries of the game design, is there an epilogue that you specifically want for your Dalish protagonist?

 

I imagine my Lavellan is working together with Briala, who now pulls the strings in Orlais. They could make Thedas elf-friendlier. Leliana is Divine, and Clan Lavellan helps ruling Wycome, which is a promising start. Well, it could lead to a lot of chaos, but it's worth a try.

[BronzTrooper]

I'm curious, what does everyone want when it comes to the outcome of their respective elven Inquisitor? Whether or not it's within the boundaries of the game design, is there an epilogue that you specifically want for your Dalish protagonist?

 

Depends on my Inquisitor, tbh.

 

My first f!Lavellan, Lin'Mi (trans: 'blood blade') would probably be like Lady Layabout's Lavellan.

 

My m!Lavellan, Dorf'Fen (trans: 'grey wolf') would be more focused on keeping the peace.

 

My second f!Lavellan, Fen'Elgar (trans: 'wolf spirit') would be like my first Lavellan, but on the more.... aggressive side.  She'd also end up hooking up with my human-hating Tabris Warden post-campaign.  

[TEWR]

I'm curious, what does everyone want when it comes to the outcome of their respective elven Inquisitor? Whether or not it's within the boundaries of the game design, is there an epilogue that you specifically want for your Dalish protagonist?

 

Well, in my world-state where Nasir leads a Lavellan, a Trevelyan, and an Adaar alongside him (and previous companions join the Inquisition as agents), Marisa would like to study the knowledge the Well of Sorrows granted her -- and Merrill, Velanna, Vanessa Surana, Lysa Mahariel, Morrigan, and Nasir -- to learn more about their past, as it's clear that what they remember is a tale that never was, of an era that never existed, with a people that were not as great as they thought.

 

She is torn between wishing to do what you suggested earlier, which is using the knowledge from the Well to create, or find, a new dimension with which the Elves could settle down in peace. While on the surface this seems a good idea, it has drawbacks. It's isolationist in nature, and worse it demands that they be unable to monitor the situation on Thedas. And if somehow the humans were to gain knowledge of the Eluvians and find them, they would be taken by surprise.

 

So she, at Nasir's urging, decides it might be better to take advantage of the political precedent set up in Ferelden, Wycome, Kirkwall and Orlais. With Briala's Eluvian network and her agents everywhere, coupled with Denerim's new Bann of the Alienage Shianni, and Clan Lavellan having a seat on the Wycome City Council, and the few reforms Tobias Hawke and Merrill were able to enact in Kirkwall for the Elves in the Alienage before he fled from the Red Templars shortly into his time as Viscount to begin to help the Elves. 

 

Orzammar also counts itself as an ally of the Elves under King Xanthos' rule, though very few Elves choose to live underground I think. I dunno.

 

With enough time, and influence, the Elves would be better poised to do the whole "Live in another dimension/world" thing and rebuild, as they would be able to receive information from agents stationed in Thedas through Briala's chain of spies.

 

Risky, to be sure, because who knows what the future might bring. Some Elves down the line might distort history and then you have a war between the Elves from this other dimension invading Thedas and the Thedosians therein. Or something else bad might happen. The future is anything but clear, but I think that's where she would start.

[Kestrel]

I'm curious, what does everyone want when it comes to the outcome of their respective elven Inquisitor? Whether or not it's within the boundaries of the game design, is there an epilogue that you specifically want for your Dalish protagonist?

 

 

I've spent a lot of time thinking about what happened to my Inquisitor after the game ends. Her family is dead, her lover has up and vanished, and she's basically remade the whole damn world. I would imagine she has at least some form of PTSD, which she hides well. Her first few weeks are spent entirely around Skyhold, probably playing a lot of games of Wicked Grace and trying to maintain a facade that people expect to see. Slowly, she starts to branch out- short trips at a time, seeing the world as it is now, maybe killing a few baddies close to home. The political situation in Orlais intrigues her, as she's put Briala into defacto power behind the throne. She wants to better the situation for elves everywhere, but the information she's learned of their past has her questioning every action. Every move she makes is carefully calculated. She asks Josephine and Cullen for their advice often, and misses Leilana's wise words. 

 

I think, over a long period of time, she would spend time looking for more elven ruins, trying to understand the stories she's grown up hearing vs the reality so newly revealed to her, while juggling the fact that she's this enormously powerful figure- something she never asked for.

[BronzTrooper]

Well, in my world-state where Nasir leads a Lavellan, a Trevelyan, and an Adaar alongside him (and previous companions join the Inquisition as agents), Marisa would like to study the knowledge the Well of Sorrows granted her -- and Merrill, Velanna, Vanessa Surana, Lysa Mahariel, Morrigan, and Nasir -- to learn more about their past, as it's clear that what they remember is a tale that never was, of an era that never existed, with a people that were not as great as they thought.

 

She is torn between wishing to do what you suggested earlier, which is using the knowledge from the Well to create, or find, a new dimension with which the Elves could settle down in peace. While on the surface this seems a good idea, it has drawbacks. It's isolationist in nature, and worse it demands that they be unable to monitor the situation on Thedas. And if somehow the humans were to gain knowledge of the Eluvians and find them, they would be taken by surprise.

 

So she, at Nasir's urging, decides it might be better to take advantage of the political precedent set up in Ferelden, Wycome, Kirkwall and Orlais. With Briala's Eluvian network and her agents everywhere, coupled with Denerim's new Bann of the Alienage Shianni, and Clan Lavellan having a seat on the Wycome City Council, and the few reforms Tobias Hawke and Merrill were able to enact in Kirkwall for the Elves in the Alienage before he fled from the Red Templars shortly into his time as Viscount to begin to help the Elves. 

 

Orzammar also counts itself as an ally of the Elves under King Xanthos' rule, though very few Elves choose to live underground I think. I dunno.

 

With enough time, and influence, the Elves would be better poised to do the whole "Live in another dimension/world" thing and rebuild, as they would be able to receive information from agents stationed in Thedas through Briala's chain of spies.

 

Risky, to be sure, because who knows what the future might bring. Some Elves down the line might distort history and then you have a war between the Elves from this other dimension invading Thedas and the Thedosians therein. Or something else bad might happen. The future is anything but clear, but I think that's where she would start.

 

Damn it, now I'm thinking about what'll happen after the main plot in the DA:I sequel to my multi-Warden fanfic.  This really sucks because I've barely gotten started with the main plot in DA:O.  I hate how I tend to think so far ahead when writing my fanfics.  

[Red of Rivia]

Well, I think we can expect a new appearance of Abelas.

[BronzTrooper]

Well, I think we can expect a new appearance of Abelas.

 

Possibly.  Maybe BW will give him the Isabela treatment?

[TEWR]

Damn it, now I'm thinking about what'll happen after the main plot in the DA:I sequel to my multi-Warden fanfic.  This really sucks because I've barely gotten started with the main plot in DA:O.  I hate how I tend to think so far ahead when writing my fanfics.  

 

I have the same problem. I can't even write most of my fanfics because I want to do it for too many things (Teen Titans, DA, Kingdom Hearts, etc.) and then I start to think too far ahead. Throw in the original story I'm trying to write but have taken a break from (which I don't want to be too long lest I drop it entirely) and it's hard.

 

My own multi-Warden world-state is intricate. My Aeducan led nine other Origin characters against the Blight, plus the companions from the base game.

[BronzTrooper]

I have the same problem. I can't even write most of my fanfics because I want to do it for too many things (Teen Titans, DA, Kingdom Hearts, etc.) and then I start to think too far ahead. Throw in the original story I'm trying to write but have taken a break from (which I don't want to be too long lest I drop it entirely) and it's hard.

 

My own multi-Warden world-state is intricate. My Aeducan led nine other Origin characters against the Blight, plus the companions from the base game.

 

I've stuck to DA and ME for the most part.  Only 2 fanfics for ME, though, first of which I've abandoned completely.  Have a lot for DA, though most are on hiatus for the time being.  Have 3 main fanfics I'm working on: my multi-Warden fanfic, my SI fanfic, and my DA2 fanfic.  My DA2 fanfic is nearing completion and both of multi-Warden and SI fanfics have barely gotten off the ground as far as DA:O's plot goes.  Doesn't help that I have plans for both to go further into the series (my multi-Warden fanfic will go into Awakening before jumping to DA:I and my SI fanfic will go into Awakening, DA2, and DA:I), but it does help to have certain events planned out well in advance.

 

I'm having my Aeducan as the leader in my multi-Warden fanfic too.  Works well since it makes sense for his background and doesn't result in minor hiccups with my Wardens' personalities (if my Amell or Cousland became the leader, my Tabris would've just left).  Have most of the events related to DA:O's plot planned out, though there are a couple things I'm still thinking on (who's going to the Haven is one of them).

 

As of right now, my multi-Warden fanfic is my longest at 21 chapters (about 5 pages per chapter = around 105 pages long in Word, not to mention my other fanfics) and it'll only get longer.  Having my Wardens split up for the different quests (Mahariel is leading Tabris, Surana, Alistair, and Leliana through the Brecilian Forest and Dalish questline, Aeducan is leading everyone else to Honnleath, where they will split up after getting Shale, Aeducan and Brosca going to Orzammar with Sten while Cousland and Amell go to the Circle with Morrigan), so it'll be a bit chaotic (actually took me a while to figure out who would go where and when).  I'm also planning on having a few references to DA:I embedded into it as well, though it will be somewhat subtle.

 

As for referencing DA:I in my SI fanfic.... idk.  Will have to think on it.

[TEWR]

Heh, you and I have similar ideas. My Aeducan also had his team split up as well!

[Red of Rivia]

Possibly.  Maybe BW will give him the Isabela treatment?

I believe the game will deal more about the elven culture.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm curious, what does everyone want when it comes to the outcome of their respective elven Inquisitor? Whether or not it's within the boundaries of the game design, is there an epilogue that you specifically want for your Dalish protagonist?

To have been a City Elf rather than a Dalish Elf. 

[Nimlowyn]

I'm curious, what does everyone want when it comes to the outcome of their respective elven Inquisitor? Whether or not it's within the boundaries of the game design, is there an epilogue that you specifically want for your Dalish protagonist?

To find Solas. I'm not sure yet, because I haven't finished this playthrough, but I have a feeling she would want to help him. 

[thruaglassdarkly]

I'm curious, what does everyone want when it comes to the outcome of their respective elven Inquisitor? Whether or not it's within the boundaries of the game design, is there an epilogue that you specifically want for your Dalish protagonist?

Hmmmm...Well I have three, which makes it trickier.  

 

For my canon Lavellan mage (I actually named her Abelas on the first playthrough...made the Mythal quest a bit strange for me), I'm guessing her first order of business is to head over to Wycome and making sure her clan and the locals are still playing nice.  Also she is probably eager to see the family she's been separated from for who knows how long.  She will likely leave Sera home for that first visit (that is going to take a bit of explanation and the situation will require some massaging; Sera's not very good at either so no need to rush things.)  Afterwards, there is quite a bit of work to do with the newly appointed Divine regarding Chantry relations with her people (Dalish or city dwelling).  I think her time with Sera has made her question a fully separatist approach for her people, especially since Liliana seems unusually open to changes in Chantry policy.  I see a lot of dignitary meetings and piece keeping in her immediate future.  Their is a lot of chaos in Southern Thedas post mage rebellion/civil war/sky rift.  Several paradigms have shifted and more will shift, assuming Lili makes good on her promises of greater religious equality.  Bad apples on both sides of elf/human equation may try to exploit that.  The inquisitor will need to make sure that they don't.

 

After that who knows....Mythal left a hell of lot more questions than answers.  The Divine's girlfriend is off trying to discover a cure for the Gray Wardens' Calling, and given the ways the world has seen the Calling exploited, this probably no longer just a Gray Warden concern.  There is plenty left to do.

[Addai]

I'm curious, what does everyone want when it comes to the outcome of their respective elven Inquisitor? Whether or not it's within the boundaries of the game design, is there an epilogue that you specifically want for your Dalish protagonist?

I can't answer this question yet until we see if there is any post-game content. Especially for a Solas romance, too much is still up in the air.

 

Well, I think we can expect a new appearance of Abelas.

If they take a badass minor character and make him the Cullen of DA4- broody LI with the tortured past- I swear to the creators.

[MisterJB]

Hence the point of calling them riots.

It's mentioned in the epilogues. Do you believe they follow a political agenda?

[Addai]

It's mentioned in the epilogues. Do you believe they follow a political agenda?

I believe human rulers use "elven riot" as a cover for political agendas, sure. That's been established a couple times already.