I do not know. I just felt like the cliche was not that good, so added a personal reason to make it feel real.
I wouldn't call "I am just doing what I am told" a cliché persay, but if you didn't want that backstory, that is your own choice. I am just puzzeled by the amount of people trying to come up with complex and intricate explanations for why their character were at the Conclave, when we got a perfectly simple and plausible answer.
My first male elf hunter romances Dorian. I figured there had to be some reason why he wasn't married, with a wife and kids to worry about when he left, since he was a very able hunter - he one shots those rams himself at the beginning, no sweat. So I decided he was gay, hence something of a loner in the clan and when the Keeper wanted someone to go to the Conclave he volunteered so that other clan members wouldn't have to leave their loved ones. He starts off not trusting Dorian at all, in fact anything to do with Tevinter, so goes with the Templar path as the lesser of two evils and because having magic negating specialists on hand might come in handy, but conscripting them. Then Dorian puts his life on the line to warn them, stands up to Cullen over his plan to dump a mountain on everyone in Haven and looks after Roderick when he is dying. He decides that perhaps Dorian might not be such a bad fellow after all and it sort of built from there. Called him Enavir (Pathfinder)
My other male elf is a mage. He is cocky and confident to the point of arrogance. Already a bit of a subversive since he doesn't reckon much to the elf gods and suspects that the Keeper sent him to the conclave to get him out of her hair, plus he'd always wanted to find out more about humans so she said now was his chance. He rolled with the whole Herald of Andraste thing not because he actually believed in the Maker but because it seemed to impress the stupid Shems something rotten. Then he started to admire Cassandra and ended up romancing her. So he started to genuinely believe in the Maker because of her influence, helped along by the revelations about the elven gods. Avoided voting for anyone and got inspired Leliana as Divine, so he got to keep Cassandra at his side and free up the mages. He conscripted them at Redcliffe so we ended up with the order of the Bright Hand, which he rather liked. Called him Sulevin (he even found a sword with his name on).
Neither is intending on returning to their clan any time soon. They seem a lot more content than my poor elf girl, Atisha (peacemaker); she romanced Solas, so you know the rest.
I wouldn't call "I am just doing what I am told" a cliché persay, but if you didn't want that backstory, that is your own choice. I am just puzzeled by the amount of people trying to come up with complex and intricate explanations for why their character were at the Conclave, when we got a perfectly simple and plausible answer.
I would not say what I have is complex/intricate. After all it would make sense for her to "do what she is told" if she wanted to get away from the clan, and her mother, for a bit.
I would look at not as a different explanation, but an extra reason to be there. more depth for the character.
I wouldn't call "I am just doing what I am told" a cliché persay, but if you didn't want that backstory, that is your own choice. I am just puzzeled by the amount of people trying to come up with complex and intricate explanations for why their character were at the Conclave, when we got a perfectly simple and plausible answer.
Everyone has different headcanoned personalities for their Inquisitors, and sometimes the canon reasoning for them being at the Conclave isn't enough of a reason for them. Hence why people decide to expand on it.
Everyone has different headcanoned personalities for their Inquisitors, and sometimes the canon reasoning for them being at the Conclave isn't enough of a reason for them. Hence why people decide to expand on it.
There is a difference between expanding, and over-complicating. Depth for the sake of depth is not inherently a good thing.
There is a difference between expanding, and over-complicating. Depth for the sake of depth is not inherently a good thing.
I never said that, though. I was just explaining why people might not be satisfied with the canon reasoning for their Inquisitor(s) to be at the Conclave.
For those of you who roll as male elf, who do you choose as love interests?
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I choose josie cause it just fitsFor those of you who roll as male elf, who do you choose as love interests?
For those of you who roll as male elf, who do you choose as love interests?
From a cultural roleplaying perspective (as opposed to a personal perspective), I don't see any of the male elf romances as particularly suitable for developing your character's elven identity. Whereas in previous games there were romance options connected to elves or elven issues in some way (Morrigan and Zevran in DA:O and Merrill and Fenris in DA2), the romance options for a male elf in DA:I lacked any sort connection to elven culture. Straight elves had the option of romancing Cassandra and Josephine, both of whom are members of the human nobility and with little knowledge or experience of elven culture and then the gay options consisted of another human noble and a Ben-Hassrath, both of whom also had little to do with elven culture. From these four options, Iron Bull is probably the most suitable from an elven perspective due to the historical tendency for many city elves to join the Qun which they view as liberating: you could roleplay an elf who was drawn to Bull due to his interest in the Qun and the benefits it could bring to elves.
In my first playthrough (which was as a male elf) I romanced Josephine, and it seemed a little jarring to me that an elven tribesman would be swept up in a romance with a human noble: this was particularly true when I discovered that my elven tribesman was a masterful fencer who held his own in a fight against a renowned duelist. On the whole, the only romance option which offers some exploration of your elven identity in this game is Solas's romance (which is female only).
There is a difference between expanding, and over-complicating. Depth for the sake of depth is not inherently a good thing.
And there is a difference between weakening/over-simplifying and logical reasoning. If you play an elf mage, you would actually find the canon is not good enough at all. Are you actually the first? Is there actually a second? Why wasn't the second sent instead if they were just as capable as the first?
What I posted was her own personal reason for accepting. As far as anyone outside her knows, she is just doing what she was told.
And there is a difference between weakening/over-simplifying and logical reasoning. If you play an elf mage, you would actually find the canon is not good enough at all. Are you actually the first? Is there actually a second? Why wasn't the second sent instead if they were just as capable as the first?
What I posted was her own personal reason for accepting. As far as anyone outside her knows, she is just doing what she was told.
There is no such thing as a "Second". There is the Keeper and the First. There is no "Second". Besides the fluff straight up says that you are the First to your clan, so why exactly is that even in question?
And what I posted was my own musings, about peoples desire to expand upon something already explained, and why these expansions are often overly complicated and self-contradictory.
There is no such thing as a "Second". There is the Keeper and the First. There is no "Second". Besides the fluff straight up says that you are the First to your clan, so why exactly is that even in question?
And what I posted was my own musings, about peoples desire to expand upon something already explained, and why these expansions are often overly complicated and self-contradictory.
I am just going to end with this. None of that background stuff even matters. Why worry over someone else's backstory for their character when not even the "canon" background reason for being there is actually brought up in the game? In the game you talk to Vivienne and she asks why you were at the Conclave. Out of all the options NONE of them are related to the actual background in the slightest.
Here is a revised Background for Melana:
Melana was born to clan Lavellan, specifically to the keeper of the clan. She grew up like any normal Dalish child, until her magic manifested. When they did, her mother decided to train her as her first. Most of the Dalish felt that this was based off of preferential treatment due to the fact that the keeper was in fact her mother, though she always denied it. She began to have sexual thoughts about her mother, though she never said anything about it, and things stayed relatively normal. When the clan heard about the Conclave, the Keeper trusted only her daughter with the task, so off Melana went.
For those of you who roll as male elf, who do you choose as love interests?
I do not play males, unfortunately, though I would probably choose an asexual one, or one that has a special someone back in his clan.
Who wants to play as a male elf when there's a glitch that makes their chest and arms look crushed? That glitch pretty much means female or nothing for elf.
Who wants to play as a male elf when there's a glitch that makes their chest and arms look crushed? That glitch pretty much means female or nothing for elf.
I think they fixed it. And a long time ago. Or maybe it just shows up occasionally?
When I played a male elf mage, the guy suffered only from a mild case of anorexia 
I think they fixed it. And a long time ago. Or maybe it just shows up occasionally?
When I played a male elf mage, the guy suffered only from a mild case of anorexia
The glitch is still there. Is not present only in non customizable armour (gray warden battlemage robes, keeper's robes, merc coat for example). all the other armour and the jammies still have the sucked in/broken arms. 
Presumably he doesn't care about what any of the modern elves do.
So, I just reached the Temple of Mythal. As a Dalish elf.
And all I'm gonna say is daaaaamn, Abelas can be harsh.
Sure, he wasn't wrong, but he should try and look at this another way.
Without the Dalish, all modern elves would be worshipping the shemlen's Maker and probably wouldn't even speak elvhen anymore. So... a little thanks is in order, I think?
What would Caesar think if he saw the Roman Empire ca 476? nothing nice I imagine
What would Caesar think if he saw the Roman Empire ca 476? nothing nice I imagine
In Caesar's eyes, I imagine that the continued existence of a Roman Empire would be preferable to its complete absence, particularly with the strong cultural influence that it had on the neighbouring (and future) 'barbarian' peoples such as the Goths, Lombards, Franks, Angles etc. Likewise, you'd expect Abelas to place some value in Dalish culture seeing as it's the main reason that ancient elven culture has survived, albeit in an evolved, reinterpreted form. IIRC his position on the elven inquisitor softens depending on your actions and dialogue during the mission. This implies that Abelas had constructed a highly negative stereotype of modern elves that he believed to be reality, and when one modern elf begins to contradict that stereotype, he begins to doubt his views.
In Caesar's eyes, I imagine that the continued existence of a Roman Empire would be preferable to its complete absence, particularly with the strong cultural influence that it had on the neighbouring (and future) 'barbarian' peoples such as the Goths, Lombards, Franks, Angles etc. Likewise, you'd expect Abelas to place some value in Dalish culture seeing as it's the main reason that ancient elven culture has survived, albeit in an evolved, reinterpreted form. IIRC his position on the elven inquisitor softens depending on your actions and dialogue during the mission. This implies that Abelas had constructed a highly negative stereotype of modern elves that he believed to be reality, and when one modern elf begins to contradict that stereotype, he begins to doubt his views.
From what I recall a Dalish quizzie will still be called a shemlen by the end, no matter how nice she tries to be. My quizzie was actually ready to let Abelas destroy the well, if that's what he wanted, even told Morrigan to f*** off, but he just left. In other words his "softening" to the inquisitor has nothing to do with her being an elf.
For those of you who roll as male elf, who do you choose as love interests?
Romance no one, head-canon a political marriage with Briala. Kind of disappointed they didn't include political marriages in DAi like they did for DAO. HM-Celene, HF-Gaspard, EM-Briala.
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