No, you haven't. You've said why you liked it more, but it's not an answer for how it's actually a different gameplay mechanic beyond your subjective experience.
Well, i dont know how to help you then.. I cant argue stupidity... post 1477, 1478.. hell, most of page 60, 61, and this page.. If you cant read that "why's", thats your issue..
all persons who are bothered by a large world should not get the witcher wild hunt.
because it is ten times larger as skyrim.
as the developer say the huge open world will be filled with caves , ruins , villages ..trails.. rivers.. rocks .. trees ..animals... and so on.
the main story quests happen in other realms.which are separate from the big world.
the great world is free to explore and thought for minor tasks they have less or nothing to do with the main story.
the huge world will be explorable without load screens..
so you have a pretty much traveling..
if you reach a main story part area.. then you get a load screen.after the screen you find yourself in the main story realm.
the main story realms are little maps which can be explore too...
into these realms you get the main story quests.
all persons who are bothered by a large world should not get the witcher wild hunt.
because it is ten times larger as skyrim.
as the developer say the huge open world will be filled with caves , ruins , villages ..trails.. rivers.. rocks .. trees ..animals... and so on.
the main story quests happen in other realms.which are separate from the big world.
the great world is free to explore and thought for minor tasks they have less or nothing to do with the main story.
Still completely missing the point, but good for a laugh at least.
Let's see how W3 handles it then compare notes.
I mean it would be a mistake to annoint Witcher 3 as the greatest game ever before it's out the door afterall.
Still completely missing the point, but good for a laugh at least.
Let's see how W3 handles it then compare notes.
I mean it would be a mistake to annoint Witcher 3 as the greatest game ever before it's out the door afterall.
read the op at page 1 and you will see that it isn't a missing point.
one point of criticism on dai is the 'aimless wandering' and the open or huge world.because it is filled with nothing ...
i think different but that doesn't matter.
all persons who are bothered by a large world should not get the witcher wild hunt.
because it is ten times larger as skyrim.
as the developer say the huge open world will be filled with caves , ruins , villages ..trails.. rivers.. rocks .. trees ..animals... and so on.
the main story quests happen in other realms.which are separate from the big world.
the great world is free to explore and thought for minor tasks they have less or nothing to do with the main story.
the huge world will be explorable without load screens..
so you have a pretty much traveling..
if you reach a main story part area.. then you get a load screen.after the screen you find yourself in the main story realm.
the main story realms are little maps which can be explore too...
into these realms you get the main story quests.
i didn't say that witcher 3 will be the greatest rpg or game ever.
all i wanna say is that all new role play games goes in the same direction..
they get a open world as standard
personally i love it
As much as it saddens me, I'd have to agree with the OP. Also, kudos to them for talking about it in an objective and good manner, without the rampant melodrama that's common on these forums.
I did enjoy playing the game too, but I also felt that large chunks of it are just completely tangential. The various locations are diverse, and beautifully presented, however, they are filled with banality.
Even the events that should have impact still feel disconnected to the plot. In more than one place in this game, entire armies are present but only as props and cardboard cut-outs. Emprise Du Lion for example: Why is a group of 4 people able to accomplish what an entire army couldn't? Also once you clear the barricades and call them back in, once the danger is over, if you've already resolved the civil war it is pretty much mentioned in passing as a footnote.
read the op at page 1 and you will see that it isn't a missing point.
one point of criticism on dai is the 'aimless wandering' and the open or huge world.because it is filled with nothing ...
i think different but that doesn't matter.
i didn't say that witcher 3 will be the greatest rpg or game ever.
all i wanna say is that all new role play games goes in the same direction..
they get a open world as standard
personally i love it
One point.....Hmm.. Well, if Witcher 3 open world is filled with interesting things, quests, combat, and npc's, it wont be "aimless" now will it.. You read OP wrong..
As much as it saddens me, I'd have to agree with the OP. Also, kudos to them for talking about it in an objective and good manner, without the rampant melodrama that's common on these forums.
I did enjoy playing the game too, but I also felt that large chunks of it are just completely tangential. The various locations are diverse, and beautifully presented, however, they are filled with banality.
Even the events that should have impact still feel disconnected to the plot. In more than one place in this game, entire armies are present but only as props and cardboard cut-outs. Emprise Du Lion for example: Why is a group of 4 people able to accomplish what an entire army couldn't? Also once you clear the barricades and call them back in, once the danger is over, if you've already resolved the civil war it is pretty much mentioned in passing as a footnote.
"Footnote" is the exact word i use to describe everything done in DA:I.. All your hard fought "choices", are barely noted at the end, if at all.. Heck, majority of the side quests only get a "goodbye" once completed.. If they werent going for the cinematic style theyre known for, they should have atleast replaced it with good dialog, and action.. idk.. SOMEthing!
One point.....Hmm.. Well, if Witcher 3 open world is filled with interesting things, quests, combat, and npc's, it wont be "aimless" now will it.. You read OP wrong..
do you wanna say that dai has no combat and interesting things .. like dragons....caves .. combat ...npc s.....combat to conquer a fortress and so on into the open world ?
they said already that the minor quests from the open world into the witcher 3 will be like....'go out an kill xy...bounty hunter missions'......'go out and find xy...'...'go out and collect xy....'because the witcher 'gerald of riva' is a bounty hunter.. he hunt demons, ghosts .. and so on.
it will be pretty much the same like dai or skyrim filler quests.and thats exactly what the op didn't like.thats what the criticism is about.
or did you realy think that such a large world will have only epic minor story quests they are bound on the main story?
sorry but the developer from the witcher 3 denied that already.
the developer maked a example: the player can visit a little village into the open world and there he can find a notice board....he can read it and he can get a bounty hunter mission from it.thats not different as if you find a letter or a book .. and that you must read it to get a quest.you can find bulletin boards in many villages and towns.
i have no problem with that like the op has.
another way to get missions and quests will be to talk to the citizin.i am not sure how long or short the conversations will be.but i guess they won't be own novels.
As much as it saddens me, I'd have to agree with the OP. Also, kudos to them for talking about it in an objective and good manner, without the rampant melodrama that's common on these forums.
I did enjoy playing the game too, but I also felt that large chunks of it are just completely tangential. The various locations are diverse, and beautifully presented, however, they are filled with banality.
Even the events that should have impact still feel disconnected to the plot. In more than one place in this game, entire armies are present but only as props and cardboard cut-outs. Emprise Du Lion for example: Why is a group of 4 people able to accomplish what an entire army couldn't? Also once you clear the barricades and call them back in, once the danger is over, if you've already resolved the civil war it is pretty much mentioned in passing as a footnote.
do you wanna say that dai has no combat and interesting things .. like dragons....caves .. combat ...npc s.....combat to conquer a fortress and so on into the open world ?
they said already that the minor quests from the open world into the witcher 3 will be like....'go out an kill xy...bounty hunter missions'......'go out and find xy...'...'go out and collect xy....'because the witcher 'gerald of riva' is a bounty hunter.. he hunt demons, ghosts .. and so on.
it will be pretty much the same like dai or skyrim filler quests.and thats exactly what the op didn't like.thats what the criticism is about.
or did you realy think that such a large world will have only epic minor story quests they are bound on the main story?
sorry but the developer from the witcher 3 denied that already.
the developer maked a example: the player can visit a little village into the open world and there he can find a notice board....he can read it and he can get a bounty hunter mission from it.thats not different as if you find a letter or a book .. and that you must read it to get a quest.you can find bulletin boards in many villages and towns.
i have no problem with that like the op has.
another way to get missions and quests will be to talk to the citizin.i am not sure how long or short the conversations will be.but i guess they won't be own novels.
Now I'm really eager to see how fan reaction will be when W3 comes out, if it's going to be similar to DAI in those ways.
But the point I wanted to make is that, at least the developer was open and honest with the fanbase, telling them that many of the quests in the open world will be mainly fetch/collection quests. Bioware, all the way up until the game's release kept boasting about all the impactful choices we'd be able to make, how our actions would effect the world. Some of the things Bioware's people said in interviews ended up being no more than a mere war table mission in-game, when the way they described it made it seem like it would be an actual side quest in the game. Would've been a nice heads-up from Bioware to at least let us know of the banality of many of the quests in DAI. Is it wrong for players of DAO and DA2 to expect the same depth of side quests in the third installment? I think not. Also another problem, which for me is the main problem, is how you're forced to do these side quests just to be able to gain access to the main quests. If you're going to force players to do what is usually optional content, at least make it interesting. 
I honestly think that if:
-the main plot was integrated into the world instead of being sectioned off in its' own little areas
-there was no power requirement to progress
-there were a few more traditional side quests or questlines in each area as well
That people wouldn't have a problem with the side quests.
I personally would love to have a few quests like this scattered through each map as well like I was used to getting from BioWare:
Now I'm really eager to see how fan reaction will be when W3 comes out, if it's going to be similar to DAI in those ways.
But the point I wanted to make is that, at least the developer was open and honest with the fanbase, telling them that many of the quests in the open world will be mainly fetch/collection quests. Bioware, all the way up until the game's release kept boasting about all the impactful choices we'd be able to make, how our actions would effect the world. Some of the things Bioware's people said in interviews ended up being no more than a mere war table mission in-game, when the way they described it made it seem like it would be an actual side quest in the game. Would've been a nice heads-up from Bioware to at least let us know of the banality of many of the quests in DAI. Is it wrong for players of DAO and DA2 to expect the same depth of side quests in the third installment? I think not. Also another problem, which for me is the main problem, is how you're forced to do these side quests just to be able to gain access to the main quests. If you're going to force players to do what is usually optional content, at least make it interesting.
Now I'm really eager to see how fan reaction will be when W3 comes out, if it's going to be similar to DAI in those ways.
But the point I wanted to make is that, at least the developer was open and honest with the fanbase, telling them that many of the quests in the open world will be mainly fetch/collection quests. Bioware, all the way up until the game's release kept boasting about all the impactful choices we'd be able to make, how our actions would effect the world. Some of the things Bioware's people said in interviews ended up being no more than a mere war table mission in-game, when the way they described it made it seem like it would be an actual side quest in the game. Would've been a nice heads-up from Bioware to at least let us know of the banality of many of the quests in DAI. Is it wrong for players of DAO and DA2 to expect the same depth of side quests in the third installment? I think not. Also another problem, which for me is the main problem, is how you're forced to do these side quests just to be able to gain access to the main quests. If you're going to force players to do what is usually optional content, at least make it interesting.
Well I am concerned W3 have open world I did not wanted "open world" in DA:I and i don't want it in W3. Geralt is monster slayer. I never expect something else than go kill 10 drowners. But I expect real side quests to, like succubus murder investigation.
Hopefully CDPR make better use of their open space than BW did. I feel F:NV did a great job utilizing the space they had.Well I am concerned W3 have open world I did not wanted "open world" in DA:I and i don't want it in W3. Geralt is monster slayer. I never expect something else than go kill 10 drowners. But I expect real side quests to, like succubus murder investigation.
do you wanna say that dai has no combat and interesting things .. like dragons....caves .. combat ...npc s.....combat to conquer a fortress and so on into the open world ?
they said already that the minor quests from the open world into the witcher 3 will be like....'go out an kill xy...bounty hunter missions'......'go out and find xy...'...'go out and collect xy....'because the witcher 'gerald of riva' is a bounty hunter.. he hunt demons, ghosts .. and so on.
it will be pretty much the same like dai or skyrim filler quests.and thats exactly what the op didn't like.thats what the criticism is about.
or did you realy think that such a large world will have only epic minor story quests they are bound on the main story?
sorry but the developer from the witcher 3 denied that already.
the developer maked a example: the player can visit a little village into the open world and there he can find a notice board....he can read it and he can get a bounty hunter mission from it.thats not different as if you find a letter or a book .. and that you must read it to get a quest.you can find bulletin boards in many villages and towns.
i have no problem with that like the op has.
another way to get missions and quests will be to talk to the citizin.i am not sure how long or short the conversations will be.but i guess they won't be own novels.
Thats exactly what im saying.. Yes, the combat is horrible, and dumbed down to the brink of idiocy.. No, the quests are not interesting, story driven works of art..There arent any "caves" that are even close to dungeonous, or quest worthy..The npcs are the worst in the history of any Biware title.. Theyre little more than back drops.. Youve got to be kidding with this crap!
Bioware was also open about what to expect; cannot be blamed if some Players did not receive, watch, or read all the info. If one held false expectations based on some non-Official pre-realase footage, that is not on the company.
This is pure BS.. They said it would be all of what was good from the previous 2 titles.. Well, theres none of either.. No tactical combat.. No character progression, stat allocation, behaviour modifiers, tactical camera, click to move, click to loot, cinematics, companion dialog anywhere, half the spells/abilities from before, none of the base building, and growing, and control over how its made, grown, and defended.. No defense missions... Its clearly not a game for and by pc gamers, as its a painfully obvious (and lazy) console port, with no PC ui.. Horrible m+kb implementation, and designed for a controller (not pc main input)
Where exactly is it exactly what was promised, short of having big open worlds? Big area is the ONLY thing they advertised, that held true! If it wasnt, do you honestly believe so many people would be here compaining, or in utter disbeleif to what was purchased? Sure, some would, no matter what.. But its pretty clear, many people were comepletely blindsided by the half complete, cheap, corner cutting, lazy, console port, dumbed down PoS we got.. Clearly, we had no idea!
Remember before the game was released how the devs were talking about your race option and how it would have an impact. Such as "it's much easier to deal with the elves if you're an elf" or "there's one quest involving the Qunari that's almost impossible to do if your inquisitor is a Qunari." It would have been cool if that were actually true.
Thats exactly what im saying.. Yes, the combat is horrible, and dumbed down to the brink of idiocy.. No, the quests are not interesting, story driven works of art..There arent any "caves" that are even close to dungeonous, or quest worthy..The npcs are the worst in the history of any Biware title.. Theyre little more than back drops.. Youve got to be kidding with this crap!
I want to say things...but those things would get me in trouble and I already have one warning post hanging over my head, always watching and waiting for me to slip up!
I honestly think that if:
-the main plot was integrated into the world instead of being sectioned off in its' own little areas
-there was no power requirement to progress
-there were a few more traditional side quests or questlines in each area as well
Without the power requirement that main story would feel a lot shorter, but then maybe more involved sidequests would mitigate that,
Without the power requirement that main story would feel a lot shorter, but then maybe more involved sidequests would mitigate that,
That's because the main story is short 
. More involved side quests would help and there's nothing saying people can't do all the grindy fetch quests their little hearts desire if they wanted to, just don't force it on people who think it's boring. I'd rather have a short game that I like (such as the ones Telltale Games makes) than one that's 80% boring fluff.
Wait, I just had a horrible idea...What if there were so many fetch quests coupled with the power requirements to intentionally annoy people but also get them used to the idea of having a long, boring grind before they can get to the fun parts. What if it's all setting up a facebook/mobile game style system where you can advance either through waiting a really long time or grinding like crazy or paying real money to move on in microtransactions? What if in the next game the power requirements are even higher but you can buy power with real money. 
/crackpot theory.
No, you haven't. You've said why you liked it more, but it's not an answer for how it's actually a different gameplay mechanic beyond your subjective experience.
Why bother? The delus...nostalgia around ME1 is pretty much untouchable.
This is pure BS.. They said it would be all of what was good from the previous 2 titles.. Well, theres none of either.. No tactical combat.. No character progression, stat allocation, behaviour modifiers, tactical camera, click to move, click to loot, cinematics, companion dialog anywhere, half the spells/abilities from before, none of the base building, and growing, and control over how its made, grown, and defended.. No defense missions... Its clearly not a game for and by pc gamers, as its a painfully obvious (and lazy) console port, with no PC ui.. Horrible m+kb implementation, and designed for a controller (not pc main input)
Where exactly is it exactly what was promised, short of having big open worlds? Big area is the ONLY thing they advertised, that held true! If it wasnt, do you honestly believe so many people would be here compaining, or in utter disbeleif to what was purchased? Sure, some would, no matter what.. But its pretty clear, many people were comepletely blindsided by the half complete, cheap, corner cutting, lazy, console port, dumbed down PoS we got.. Clearly, we had no idea!
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