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[Star Reborn]

Does the West, or the New World, believe Money is God, and Despair is Hope?

 

[Gravisanimi]

I can't speak for a hemisphere, but to answer your question before the thread is locked for "insulting a culture".

 

Money is a power, not the power, so I'd compare it more to a kind of god of polytheism, Hades perhaps. Not the most powerful of powers, but a power none the less. But in the sense of the monotheistic religions, no, we have no worship for money, only require it as we require water, food, entertainment or shelter, because our culture has made the acquisition of water, food, entertainment or shelter difficult without a form of currency or equal exchange,

 

And Despair gives a place for hope, for without a problem, what reason is there to hope?

[mybudgee]

Sex is God, Money is Despair.

[Star Reborn]

I can't speak for a hemisphere, but to answer your question before the thread is locked for "insulting a culture".

 

Money is a power, not the power, so I'd compare it more to a kind of god of polytheism, Hades perhaps. Not the most powerful of powers, but a power none the less. But in the sense of the monotheistic religions, no, we have no worship for money, only require it as we require water, food, entertainment or shelter, because our culture has made the acquisition of water, food, entertainment or shelter difficult without a form of currency or equal exchange,

 

And Despair gives a place for hope, for without a problem, what reason is there to hope?

I've seen that everything done in the West, is done for profit, when it shouldn't even be the case. I see this as a sacrifice of Human Spirit, for money/materialism. With entertainment, I think entertainment is something that can be used for a brief escape, or control. It seems to me like the West is more like a farm, or factory of humans. No offence. 

[Gravisanimi]

Not entirely incorrect, at least in America, we try to build up an individuality, however we all must be able to preform the function of another individual before us.

 

Take a job for example, I take the place of my boss, and the new hire takes mine, the cog that came before me needed to function in the same manner I do, as the cog that takes my place, however many stickers or fancy metals the cogs are made of, they still need to make the machine run.

 

But it doesn't only work in jobs, it also works in social circles, personal relationships, or anything really.

 

How valuable a cog you are means more things are available to you, as long as you aren't so rare a cog no one has any use for you.

 

However, if all is done for profit, what point in there would be in having some of the strictest animal rights laws in the world? Or having laws restricting businesses from overworking or monopolies?

 

Sure, a lot is done for profit, but it's all done in the name of entertainment for two reasons

1. The joy of powering over others
2. The chance to have an easier tomorrow.

I'm much more for the latter, no matter my sadistic tendencies, it's no fun grinding others into the dust if all you are doing is worthless in the end.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

 

Does the West, or the New World, believe Money is God, and Despair is Hope?

 

 

I want to restore Han.

[Star Reborn]

Not entirely incorrect, at least in America, we try to build up an individuality, however we all must be able to preform the function of another individual before us.

 

Take a job for example, I take the place of my boss, and the new hire takes mine, the cog that came before me needed to function in the same manner I do, as the cog that takes my place, however many stickers or fancy metals the cogs are made of, they still need to make the machine run.

 

But it doesn't only work in jobs, it also works in social circles, personal relationships, or anything really.

 

How valuable a cog you are means more things are available to you, as long as you aren't so rare a cog no one has any use for you.

 

However, if all is done for profit, what point in there would be in having some of the strictest animal rights laws in the world? Or having laws restricting businesses from overworking or monopolies?

 

Sure, a lot is done for profit, but it's all done in the name of entertainment for two reasons

1. The joy of powering over others
2. The chance to have an easier tomorrow.

I'm much more for the latter, no matter my sadistic tendencies, it's no fun grinding others into the dust if all you are doing is worthless in the end.

Wow, that is the opposite of us...

[Dr.Fumbles]

Wow, that is the opposite of us...

 

That is good though. We can't have everyone and country have the same opinion/way of things. The world would be a very dull and boring place that way.

[KingTony]

Are there places where people DON'T believe that money is God and despair is hope???

[KingTony]

Alright, I gotta ask, where the actual f*ck did the "Despair is hope" line come from? That doesn't even make sense.

[mybudgee]

Are there places where people DON'T believe that money is God and despair is hope???

Right here

[Dr.Fumbles]

Alright, I gotta ask, where the actual f*ck did the "Despair is hope" line come from? That doesn't even make sense.

 

Maybe, it happens when you are in such a grummy situation that the only hope you have is despair? I don't know...

[KingTony]

Maybe, it happens when you are in such a grummy situation that the only hope you have is despair? I don't know...

That is the emo-est, most nonsensical thing I've ever heard though. I guess there are only two types of Westerners, rich ass Hollywood types (no hate, I wanna be one of those) and suburban millenial cutters who spend their days listening to Black Veil Brides and moaning about how their parents don't understand.

[KingTony]

Grummy is a good word tho

[Dr.Fumbles]

Grummy is a good word tho

 

Yeah, I use odd words aparently like "Bum Rush".

[Sully13]

No Shrek is love Shrek is life.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Not really a "quick" question. Power and wealth is everything. One doesn't guarantee the other but often either can be used to achieve the same goals. Money itself has no value or utility outside of the value an economic system gives it. Yet realistically any society will develop a form of currency as without it we are limited to bartering and taking stuff by force. That minimizes the potential for economic growth and industry. There is no point to worshiping money in a religious sense however. The phrase "Money is God" is often used by those who criticize such a necessary system and wish to attempt some utopian society that is ultimately doomed by reality.

 

Sometimes people are blinded by the lure of large short-term profits versus lower profits that can be sustained, but that is human nature.

 

Despair is hope? No idea what you mean by that. They are opposites.

[mybudgee]

Not really a "quick" question. Power and wealth is everything. One doesn't guarantee the other but often either can be used to achieve the same goals. Money itself has no value or utility outside of the value an economic system gives it. Yet realistically any society will develop a form of currency as without it we are limited to bartering and taking stuff by force. That minimizes the potential for economic growth and industry. There is no point to worshiping money in a religious sense however. The phrase "Money is God" is often used by those who criticize such a necessary system and wish to attempt some utopian society that is ultimately doomed by reality.

 

Sometimes people are blinded by the lure of large short-term profits versus lower profits that can be sustained, but that is human nature.

 

Despair is hope? No idea what you mean by that. They are opposites.

By far Recon's most reasonable post ever

[spinachdiaper]

[Naughty Bear]

Where I am from, I am god.

[L. Han]

From what I observed, everyone's ultimate thing is peace. Peace of mind; to have no opposition in what they think. It really bothers a lot of people that they can't get rid of people who disagree with them.