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DA2 is a masterpiece of an RPG.


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Actually I always thought otherwise, despite completing this game. What I disliked was: the story pace, the action oriented gameplay, lack of DAO storyline continuity. But compared to DAI I see it as a pure masterpeice, which makes me attached to the intrigue, to the characters and their development through their journey in and around Kirkwall.

 

In DA2 I didn't have so many filler quests, like in DAI.

They did not repeat themselves! (closing rifts, founding camps, fetching, etc.)

I had a lot more control over combat.

Camera was useful (rather than annoying).

 

Honestly, I don't know how to play this thing.

 

Do you really enjoy those repetitive quests like closing the same rifts, fetching ram meat, etc? Please share your secrets.

 

 


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I love both games and I enjoy most quests, even the fetch quests, because I am pretty much a completionist.

And my advice for people who don't like fetch quests. Just leave them out. Really, I don't see how it would be a big impact if you just skip them. You can finish the game without them.

 

Granted, but I would love if they put more quests in the game that actually relate to the story somehow.


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da2 was terrible, and so is this. 

Origins was the only one worth playing from start to finish. I'm finding it difficult to even finish inquisition....


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And my advice for people who don't like fetch quests. Just leave them out. Really, I don't see how it would be a big impact if you just skip them. You can finish the game without them.

 

 

But I need XP to beef up. Won't I be underleveled later without completing them?


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But I need XP to beef up. Won't I be underleveled later without completing them?

 

If I remember correctly not really, you will have to do more side quests at the start of the game, but once you start being a higher level then the zone you are in you can simply avoid the side quests and stick to the primary ones.

 

As far as Dragon Age 2 being a masterpiece I strongly disagree for it has many flaws which to me means it will never be a masterpiece.  What i do give Dragon Age 2 credit for is trying something different for the game never felt like it was about Hawke, but about Kirkwall, the problem is the systems that come with the game are flawed and made it so the game wasn't fun for me to play.


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But I need XP to beef up. Won't I be underleveled later without completing them?

So complete a few. On my first completion I was level 17 and I had skipped much of the later zones. Just do stuff that makes sense to your character.


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Hm, if you want to level up I'd recommend doing the rifts at least. And there's the quests about the Dwarfen ruins in the Hissing Wastes. It's quite long, and a huge area, but this will grant a loooot of XP from what I remember.

And if that fails, I don't know, play the lowest setting? :)



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Surprisingly I'm changing my opinion about DA2 aswell

I used to despise this game because I considered a mediocre sequel to DAO which is my favorite game ever and I consider a master piece never to be beaten by Bioware (like it is with the first ME)

But yeah, after DAI it does seem like DA2 was a much more immersive story. You feel more connected to Hawke than to the Inquisitor. 

I have issues with the cliched companions in DA2 though, especially Fenris and Merill, both seems to be out of a JRPG

 

There's a lot of things wrong with DAI and I really doubt it should have been GOTY

as the hype goes away everyone, including myself, is starting to see the flaws


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But I need XP to beef up. Won't I be underleveled later without completing them?

 

No. Do the missions you need to get the power to progress the story. That's all you're required to do.



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I had a lot more control over combat.

 

 

Disagree with this.  I remember absolutely hating the combat after going to DA2 from DA:O.  It was extremely fast paced, button mashing, arcade fest, I had very little control and positioning didn't matter most of the time.  I played a mage so it was just rotating the spells one after another until all the red bars depleted and disappeared.  I actually enjoy DAI combat but wish I could have the complex tactics system from DA:O.  That would make it nearly perfect because the AI is actually quite smart in DAI especially in terms of combo detonations.


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Oh with the next instalment DAI will be the masterpiece and the just released follow up the biggest mistake Bioware could ever make.  Nothing new under the sun.


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Enjoy the entire series, but DA2 is simply not as finished as the others. Also, I prefer the artwork of the other games, with the exception of updated Qunari and Flemeth.
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But I need XP to beef up. Won't I be underleveled later without completing them?

 

No you can get up to the recommended level with very few side quests.



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Enjoy the entire series, but DA2 is simply not as finished as the others. Also, I prefer the artwork of the other games, with the exception of updated Qunari and Flemeth.

 

Yeah. I would probably say that I like the underlying design of DA2, particularly the story, most out of the series, but the implementation of that design was clearly rushed to meet tight deadlines. Pity really, as with maybe another 4-6 months development time, it could've been a true classic.


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Did you seriously just say DA2 didn't repeat itself? The game where every single dungeon/house/area uses EXACTLY the same map?


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da2 was terrible, and so is this. 
Origins was the only one worth playing.


Oh, I wouldn't say that. I think DAI was worth one play through, and DA2 is worth it just to satisfy your morbid curiosity.

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Did you seriously just say DA2 didn't repeat itself? The game where every single dungeon/house/area uses EXACTLY the same map?


+1. DA:I was overburdened with meaningless and unrelated content but What Pride Had Wrought had me more enthralled by itself then the entirety of DA2.

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^ I'd say all three have good points and bad points.

 

As a filthy casual/console peasant my rating scale for any game is whether or not I have fun playing it, and seeing as I mostly had fun playing the DA games, they're all worthy games in my book.



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Did you seriously just say DA2 didn't repeat itself? The game where every single dungeon/house/area uses EXACTLY the same map?

At least quests were different each case. I for one would prefer a different quest on the same terrain, than vice versa. Both choices are bad though, but that's why DAI is worse than EVEN DA2.

 

Combat in DAI is also terrible: that's just "the battle of healing potions". Why am I limited only to 8 I don't know. I need a cistern of healing potions unless I'm grinding for XP, which is unbearably boring.

 

I'm only playing DAI because I've finished two previous games, hoping that DA4 will MAYBE be a game, rather than a work-like chore.


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Hoping that DA4 will MAYBE be a game, rather than a work-like chore.

 

Why are you even still playing?


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All games have their strong points and weak points. I love all of them and I don't torture myself in "This one is better than that one" "This sucks". It's a win-win situation.  :P


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There is loads of blah filler quests in DAI in my opinion, but then there's quite a lot of people who like that kind of content. So it's not really fair to say that condemns the game to being a bad RPG, just one that might not be your cup of tea.

I recommend you try just doing the bits you enjoy and see how that goes. I'm still on my frequently boring 'do everything' playthrough. I'm reserving my opinion on this game until the second playthrough where I just do main story, companion missions and bits and bobs. After all its not Bioware's fault I have an idiot need to complete everything, they pretty much stated the game isn't designed to be played like that.
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Why are you even still playing?

 

I'm only playing DAI because I've finished two previous games, hoping that DA4 will MAYBE be a game, rather than a work-like chore.

 



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I don't mind the fetch quests because I find combat in Inquisition to be fun and I like walking around the world with my companions and listening to them talk.  It doesn't matter to me that finding finding blankets or placing flowers on a grave aren't epic adventures.  It just comes down to how people weight the importance of various aspects of the game.  That's also why I don't like saying that one game is better than the other.  My conclusions don't matter for anyone but myself or other people who value the components of a game similarly to how I do.  


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Combat in DAI is also terrible: that's just "the battle of healing potions". Why am I limited only to 8 I don't know. I need a cistern of healing potions unless I'm grinding for XP, which is unbearably boring.

 

You think DAI was the battle of healing potions? Not DAO where every battle is a test of how quickly you can chug the 99 Greater Healing Poultices you carry around with you everywhere?


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