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[PhroXenGold]

DA2 was by far the worst game Bioware have ever made. Even if you enjoy it, you have to admit it's just an objectively bad game. From the graphics, to the gameplay, to the writing. It's all terrible.

 

It was a masterclass in how NOT to make a good rpg.

 

Inquisition isn't magnificent by any means, but DA2 makes it look incredible by comparison.

 

I completely disagree. The gameplay was thoroughly enjoyable, the writing good, and the graphics decent enough. It was a masterclass in why games shouldn't be rushed out, as there were aspects that clearly had not been properly implemented due to time constrants, but overall, it's still a very good game. 

[DragonAgeLegend]

I wouldn't say masterpiece but I really enjoyed it, slightly more so then DAI. 

[SnakeCode]

I completely disagree. The gameplay was thoroughly enjoyable, the writing good, and the graphics decent enough. It was a masterclass in why games shouldn't be rushed out, as there were aspects that clearly had not been properly implemented due to time constrants, but overall, it's still a very good game. 

Nah it's just bad. You can still like something that's bad. I like the Mortal Kombat film for example.

[PhroXenGold]

Nah it's just bad. You can still like something that's bad. I like the Mortal Kombat film for example.

 

No, it's a genuinely good game. I can tell the difference between enjoyable crap, and actually good, and DA2 definitely falls into the latter category. It's not perfect, and as I've said a couple of times here, it needed a few more months development time to adress certain issues realted to it being rushed to meet dealines, but overall, it's a very good game.

[ThreeF]

hmm....I liked the writing of the main plot (mainly the Arishok quest line) of DA2 until the Act 3 where everything just crumbled, didn't felt connected to companions much or felt that they had evolved much. Hawke could have gone places, but saying that Hawkes sarcasm was the most interesting thing about the character actually says a lot of negative things about the character. DA2 had one set of issues, DAI has another set of issue, I wouldn't say one is better than the other in the end.

[SnakeCode]

No, it's a genuinely good game. I can tell the difference between enjoyable crap, and actually good, and DA2 definitely falls into the latter category. It's not perfect, and as I've said a couple of times here, it needed a few more months development time to adress certain issues realted to it being rushed to meet dealines, but overall, it's a very good game.

No, it's let off the hook because it's a Bioware game. Anyone else releases that piece of junk and it gets the reception it deserves. Look anywhere on the internet besides the BSN to see how DA2 is thought of. It generally isn't fondly. What other game's NPCs look like they came straight out of the early PS1 era, and are actually part of the scenery that you can actually WALK THROUGH? The awful writing is given a pass because people just assume it's good because  Bioware, who for whatever reason have an undeserved reputation for having excellent writing. "Everybody is crazy for reasons and magic!" isn't good writing, in fact it's very bad writing. Bioware tend to get away with things other devs don't. Inquisition was just as buggy as AC: Unity for example. One received vastly more criticism from the press and fans than the other for it.

[PhroXenGold]

No, it's let off the hook because it's a Bioware game. Anyone else releases that piece of junk and it gets the reception it deserves. Look anywhere on the internet besides the BSN to see how DA2 is thought of. It generally isn't fondly. What other game's NPCs look like they came straight out of the early PS1 era, and are actually part of the scenery that you can actually WALK THROUGH? The awful writing is given a pass because people just assume it's good because  Bioware, who for whatever reason have an undeserved reputation for having excellent writing. "Everybody is crazy for reasons and magic!" isn't good writing, in fact it's very bad writing. Bioware tend to get away with things other devs don't. Inquisition was just as buggy as AC: Unity for example. One received vastly more criticism from the press and fans than the other for it.

 

It's weird, because while "the internet" appearently hates DA2, everyone I've spoken to IRL thinks it's an excellent game...

[SnakeCode]

It's weird, because while "the internet" appearently hates DA2, everyone I've spoken to IRL thinks it's an excellent game...

Funny isn't it? My anecdotal evidence is different. All of my friends, my GF and my sister all think it's a poor game. It doesn't mean much, but it is interesting.

[Nohvarr]

There's a lot of things wrong with DAI and I really doubt it should have been GOTY as the hype goes away everyone, including myself, is starting to see the flaws

 

Speak for yourself.

 

[PhroXenGold]

Funny isn't it? My anecdotal evidence is different. All of my friends, my GF and my sister all think it's a poor game. It doesn't mean much, but it is interesting.

 

Oh yeah, I wasn't saying that it was more than an anecdote, I was just remarking on an oddity I'd noticed.

[pdusen]

I understand OP, if I would rate DA2 as 3/10 before Inquisition now it is surely something like 11/10, Origins was 9/10 and now is overninethousand/10

This or change the scale so that Inquisition can have below zero scores

 

These are the kinds of people who give games zeroes on metacritic, folks.

 

DA2 was by far the worst game Bioware have ever made. Even if you enjoy it, you have to admit it's just an objectively bad game. 

 

No, I don't.

 

No, it's let off the hook because it's a Bioware game. 

 

Or maybe people just disagree with you. And you should get over it.

[theluc76]

Mr Red Fox on you tube did a pretty accurate review or some might say opinion of the game, plus a rant that pretty much share many players feelings over DAI, some others also did post similar videos

[The Hierophant]

Nope. imo it had too many copypaste dungeons, poorly rendered npcs, and character animations, limited item crafting, few enemy types, overabundance of wave combat, and damage soaking mooks.

[Majestic Jazz]

I don't mind the fetch quests, probably because I've been playing mmorpgs for 16 years and 90% of their content is fetch quests. Plus they get much, much better about it after you get past Hinterlands and Storm Coast.

See and that is the problem with DAI for many. This is a single player RPG and yet it plays like a MMORPG.

[line_genrou]

I completely disagree. The gameplay was thoroughly enjoyable, the writing good, and the graphics decent enough. It was a masterclass in why games shouldn't be rushed out, as there were aspects that clearly had not been properly implemented due to time constrants, but overall, it's still a very good game. 

For a rushed game I think it is pretty good

Of course if you look at a stand alone game

looking at as a sequel to Origins it's really really mediocre

[line_genrou]

Speak for yourself.

 

 

 

oh look IGN

how surprising

[Adynata]

They did not repeat themselves! (closing rifts, founding camps, fetching, etc.)

 

 

Only the areas repeated themselves, which I found more redundant and boring.

[Nohvarr]

oh look IGN

how surprising

And these guys:

 

Dragon Age: Inquisition has received numerous awards and nominations from gaming publications. The game has received the Game of the Year awards from Game Informer,^[68]IGN,^[69]Electronic Gaming Monthly,^[70]Hardcore Gamer,^[71]Gamereactor,^[72]Good Game,^[62]Game Revolution,^[73]Ars Technica,^[74]Associated Press,^[75]The Escapist,^[76]Polygon,^[77]Shacknews,^[78]The Game Awards,^[79] and the DICE Awards.^[80] and was nominated Game of the Year by Destructoid^[81] and IGN Australia.^[82] It was also placed on various lists of the best games of 2014, GamesRadar placed it at 2nd,^[83]Joystiq at 2nd,^[51]Cheat Code Central at 2nd,^[84]USA Today at 2nd,^[85]Empire at 9th,^[86]GameFront at 3rd,^[87]Wired at 8th,^[88]Slant Magazine at 17th^[89] and The Guardian at 14th^[90] and was considered one of the ten best games released in 2014 by Mirror.co.uk.^[91] The game also won Role-Playing Game of the Year from GamesRadar,^[83]Cheat Code Central,^[92]Game Revolution,^[93]Hardcore Gamer,^[94]Game Informer,^[95]IGN,^[96]USGamer,^[97]The Escapist,^[98]The Game Awards^[79] and the DICE Awards ^[80] as well as Best Singleplayer from PC Gamer.^[99] Developer BioWare was nominated Best Developer by Game Revolution^[100] and won the Developer of the Year Award from Hardcore Gamer^.

[Ashagar]

Only the areas repeated themselves, which I found more redundant and boring.

 

You forgot the other repetitive things the endless world war one level endless waves of the same enemies that would attack in each act for no reason. Apparently every would be bandit chief and blood mage leaders in Kirkwall are incarnations of world war I commanders with endless hordes of bandits that magically appear out of thin air to back them.

 

DAI has flaws but its but its better than DA2 which was admittedly not bad... for a action RPG.

[Ashagar]

See and that is the problem with DAI for many. This is a single player RPG and yet it plays like a MMORPG.

 

I honestly see I claims like that and can only think people who make such claims must have never played old school RPGs where side quests and fetch quests were both common often having nothing do with the main plot and that in many older games you could literally sink dozens of hours and not advance the main plot.

[katokires]

DA2 was by far the worst game Bioware have ever made. Even if you enjoy it, you have to admit it's just an objectively bad game. From the graphics, to the gameplay, to the writing. It's all terrible. Even the awful attempts at humour with refrences to pop culture was awful. "I like big boats and I cannot lie." Really Bioware, really?

 

It was a masterclass in how NOT to make a good rpg.

 

Inquisition isn't magnificent by any means, but DA2 makes it look incredible by comparison.

DA2 is probably the best game Bioware ever made. If that game had the mechanics of Origins and the crafting of Inquisition it would be perfect. I hated the game so I understand you, but now I understand that when it comes to Bioware the less the better. The smaller the game the less Bioware bullshit we will have. I would probably bear the next installments if they were like DA2. But take such a huge amount of awfulness as Inquisition, no, just no.

When it comes to being stabbed the smaller the knife and the less stabs the better. DA2 is a quick stab with a tiny knife, it hurts but that's it. DAI is like being constantly cut it half by a samurai with a huge katana for HOURS with a healer at your side keeping you alive and your nerves healthy enough to feel the pain everytime that happens.

[AlanC9]

I honestly see I claims like that and can only think people who make such claims must have never played old school RPGs where side quests and fetch quests were both common often having nothing do with the main plot and that in many older games you could literally sink dozens of hours and not advance the main plot.

Well, often the people making those claims really do know better. They're just saying saying that stuff for effect. I'm not sure why people use that strategy so much, since it doesn't actually seem to work.

[JaegerBane]

I don't.

Touché

[Darkly Tranquil]

For all it's faults, DA2 was a actually a damned good effort when you consider it had only 12 months total development time, which is nothing by AAA standards. Was it a great game? No. But considering the constraints the devs were under, it wasn't anywhere near as bad as all the online hate would have you believe. But irrespective of whether it was a "good" game or not by whatever standards you care to apply, all I can says it that I had a lot more fun playing it that I did Inquisition.