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#101
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No need to really care about other people's opinions on what is fun for you or not. If you favor to use TGI or AIU, then by all means enjoy and use them! It is YOU that paid for your game, so by all means for you it is YOUR FUN that is most important! So long as you contribute by helping team-mates like reviving or clearing objectives, no matter what class/kits you use you're gold in my book.

 

Of course, I'd recommend you to try different classes/kits as well, but if you do not enjoy them, then no need to force yourself to use them just to placate others.

 

Just consider people that "hate" as people that had nothing better to do with their time other than to feel a misplaced sense of superiority towards others over just a videogame, which, if you really think about it, is a rather sad thing to do.


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Yup. 



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I like how people keep posting serious answers. I hope OP reads them all and learns a thing or two!

 

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I like how people keep posting serious answers. I hope OP reads them all and learns a thing or two!

I know frank. I lulz every time.


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No need to really care about other people's opinions on what is fun for you or not. If you favor to use TGI or AIU, then by all means enjoy and use them! It is YOU that paid for your game, so by all means for you it is YOUR FUN that is most important!

 

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Back in ye olde days, when the Krysae was new and every lobby had at least 2 Krysae Infiltrators in, I'd have argued that I wouldn't actually want to be in those games and that other people's choices do impact on the level of fun I got from the game; using a Krysae/Infil (particularly GI or SI) was practically griefing in my book, a kind of legitimate rocket glitch.

 

Now there are no more balance changes, the Krysae is a niche weapon and I liked the TC tweaks - there far fewer f**k this, I'm out lobbies; there are still lobbies I'll bail, preset map + enemy, preset Cerberus, but there are far fewer lobbies I'll bail because of the kits other people are using - more than 2 Infils on the team and I'm gone (or I'll use a Juggy, drink tea and have a smoke) is about it now. I don't like seeing AIU/Reegar (they're generally played very badly - use a Raider!), TGI/Harrier or KroGuard/Reegar, not enough to make me bail the lobby but those three kits have a whiff of:

 

I+have+no+idea+what+i+m+doing_1f0abf_482

 

So I'll do it with the most easymode kit I can!



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Back in ye olde days, when the Krysae was new and every lobby had at least 2 Krysae Infiltrators in, I'd have argued that I wouldn't actually want to be in those games and that other people's choices do impact on the level of fun I got from the game; using a Krysae/Infil (particularly GI or SI) was practically griefing in my book, a kind of legitimate rocket glitch.

 

Now there are no more balance changes, the Krysae is a niche weapon and I liked the TC tweaks - there far fewer f**k this, I'm out lobbies; there are still lobbies I'll bail, preset map + enemy, preset Cerberus, but there are far fewer lobbies I'll bail because of the kits other people are using - more than 2 Infils on the team and I'm gone (or I'll use a Juggy, drink tea and have a smoke) is about it now. I don't like seeing AIU/Reegar (they're generally played very badly - use a Raider!), TGI/Harrier or KroGuard/Reegar, not enough to make me bail the lobby but those three kits have a whiff of:

 

 

 

So I'll do it with the most easymode kit I can!

I think the game is most fun when there's things for everyone to kill.

 

It's one reason I take Drelldept so often, because I can either score slowly and surely or nuke spawns, but I don't need to nuke spawns. If I have decent teammates there's good teamwork, then I am content to use cluster nades sparingly. I can still break them out in a pinch and level mobs if the team needs me to, but it's not a fact of playing the character. I can avoid that if I so choose.

 

On the other hand, if I get an AIU who doesn't rez teammates or do objectives and only cares about getting the most points, I'll spite them by blowing up everything before they can get to it.


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I think the game is most fun when there's things for everyone to kill.

 

That hits the nail right on the head - the best games are when there are very few points difference between 1st and 4th place on the scoreboard!


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That hits the nail right on the head - the best games are when there are very few points difference between 1st and 4th place on the scoreboard!

Sure, but not when you need to artificially produce such a score distribution by NOT killing stuff, or killing stuff more slowly. That makes zero sense to me. Obviously playing with friends or landing in a quality PUG lobby where everyone is more or less equally competent is ideal- but since its ideal it doesn't happen all the time. 


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Sure, but not when you need to artificially produce such a score distribution by NOT killing stuff, or killing stuff more slowly. That makes zero sense to me. Obviously playing with friends or landing in a quality PUG lobby where everyone is more or less equally competent is ideal- but since its ideal it doesn't happen all the time. 

 

This is one reason why I very often pug with underpowered setups, this way I can do my best during the game and still leave something for the less experienced players. Besides, it's fun to roll with Locust or Scimitar and still outperform the obligatory Harrier TGIs and Reegar AIUs. :P


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Sure, but not when you need to artificially produce such a score distribution by NOT killing stuff, or killing stuff more slowly. That makes zero sense to me. Obviously playing with friends or landing in a quality PUG lobby where everyone is more or less equally competent is ideal- but since its ideal it doesn't happen all the time. 

It's about making things fun for players with lesser skills or builds so that they can make a real contribution to the round. It's not like I'm not killing things, I'm just using Reave+AR rather than Reave+Grenade.



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I think the game is most fun when there's things for everyone to kill.

 

It's one reason I take Drelldept so often, because I can either score slowly and surely or nuke spawns, but I don't need to nuke spawns. If I have decent teammates there's good teamwork, then I am content to use cluster nades sparingly. I can still break them out in a pinch and level mobs if the team needs me to, but it's not a fact of playing the character. I can avoid that if I so choose.

 

On the other hand, if I get an AIU who doesn't rez teammates or do objectives and only cares about getting the most points, I'll spite them by blowing up everything before they can get to it.

 

I agree, and I play the Drell Adept the same way.  I do a lot more Reaving and cartwheeling and karate and shooting things than I do chucking grenades.  The grenades are there in case the shat hits the fin.  I don't even use Grenade Gear most of the time - Shock Trooper or Warfighter is fine.



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Hi everyone this is my first post here. I just bought Mass Effect 3 a couple months ago because I found it cheap in Gamestop. I didn't buy it sooner because I hated the ending, I don't think I will play the single player, but I gave the multiplayer a try and I LOVE IT!!!!

I have only been playing Gold and Silver now just a few weeks after I got a Widow X and it is really hard compared to Bronze. But I have noticed when I do certain things or use certain guns or kits some players, mostly good ones get upset. I recently met someone who told me about BSN so I just joined and wanted to ask about these things.

Why do people get upset at using the Cobra Missile on Extraction wave?

Why is it bad to use the Reegar Carbine? It is really good at removing Shields and Barriers.

Why does everyone hate Flamer and Snap Freeze?

And my favorite kit is the Turian Ghost Infiltrator but everyone seams to hate it! It is good damage with Assault Rifles and the Stim Packs keep you alive.

Any ways thanks!

WHY??

 

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I'm gonna play Reegar AIU right now.


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I'm going to play TGI/Carrier right now!  (it is fun)


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I'm gonna' watch The Outlaw Josey Wales right now.


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I'm gonna' watch The Outlaw Josey Wales right now.

Id give you a like if I could


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I didn't buy it sooner because I hated the ending


I'm confused. you didn't play the game but you know everything about it?

 

to answer your questions tho:

ppl hate flamer and reegar because the stream of fire/electricity obscures their vision, making other ppl hard to see. Reegar also causes your controller to vibrate violently if you happen to stand in front of it.

some ppl hate snap freeze because its on AIU. (snap freeze itself is an Extremely good power) And some ppl hate TGI and AIU because they are too stronk, having top tier dmg output as well as broken surviviability and mobility. They are also mad cuz TGI and AIU takes away their nades.

Ppl dislike missiling extraction and objective waves... because no reason.



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I'm confused. you didn't play the game but you know everything about it?

Thats how badass Josey Wales is, have you seen the movie?


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Much worse than snap freeze, TGI and AIU are the krogan sentinels running around spamming lift grenade and headbutting everything during the whole map. At least on TGI and AIU you have to aim the weapons other than reegar carbine.



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Much worse than snap freeze, TGI and AIU are the krogan sentinels running around spamming lift grenade and headbutting everything during the whole map. At least on TGI and AIU you have to aim the weapons other than reegar carbine.


That'd mean something if even 1 in 10 people who played AIU used things other than the Reegar. :P

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Much worse than snap freeze, TGI and AIU are the krogan sentinels running around spamming lift grenade and headbutting everything during the whole map. At least on TGI and AIU you have to aim the weapons other than reegar carbine.

 

As someone whose favourite kit is a headbutting, backhanding, Claymore-wielding Krogan Sentinel, even in a lobby full of cowards, this might just be the funniest post I've ever read on BSN.  And at least those Lift Grenades actually do some damage to the enemy, or they would if there were any left in the ammo box - if only those namby-pamby "oooh I'm hurt, pop a stimpack" weaklings weren't running to raid them every 2 minutes.  L2P scrubs.


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As someone whose favourite kit is a headbutting, backhanding, Claymore-wielding Krogan Sentinel, even in a lobby full of cowards, this might just be the funniest post I've ever read on BSN.  And at least those Lift Grenades actually do some damage to the enemy, or they would if there were any left in the ammo box - if only those namby-pamby "oooh I'm hurt, pop a stimpack" weaklings weren't running to raid them every 2 minutes.  L2P scrubs.

 

Yeah yeah yeah. Most of the krogans I have ever seen in games have a damaged brain after headbutting so much that they get sync killed every wave after trying to headbutt themselves through everything and they rarely help with objectives and sometimes they are so bad that it gets difficult to carry those heavy fatso krotards. At least juggernaut serves as banshee bait sometimes but those krogans don't serve any purpose in gold and plat.

 

Thank goodness you aren't on PC :D Maybe console controllers dont allow aiming with a weapon so those krogans have to resort to melee.

 

 

That'd mean something if even 1 in 10 people who played AIU used things other than the Reegar. :P

 

N7 Crusader on AIU and Black Widow on TGI are my favourite weapons. Only downside to Crusader is that sometimes shots miss off host.



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Yeah yeah yeah. Most of the krogans I have ever seen in games have a damaged brain after headbutting so much that they get sync killed every wave after trying to headbutt themselves through everything and they rarely help with objectives and sometimes they are so bad that it gets difficult to carry those heavy ****** krotards. At least juggernaut serves as banshee bait sometimes but those krogans don't serve any purpose.

 

Thank goodness you aren't on PC :D Maybe console controllers dont allow aiming with a weapon so those krogans have to resort to melee.

I have seen more TGI and AIU players get synced and being less helpful with the objectives. 

 

Also, I am on PC and all my krogans prefer melee to aiming with a weapon.


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those krogans don't serve any purpose in gold and plat.

 

Keep going, please, that's two genuine gut-buster laughs you've given me today.



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I have seen more TGI and AIU players get synced and being less helpful with the objectives. 

 

Also, I am on PC and all my krogans prefer melee to aiming with a weapon.

 

Bad hosts with their internet connection shared and used with rest of the house/office etc or some background apps like torrents etc could be the reason for sync kills and about not helping with the objectives I will just say wasn't me :D bad players are bad players regardless of the class. But in pugging the infiltrators i find in games on gold and plat do help more than other classes.

 

I will be honest only reason I use TGI and sometimes AIU is to help reduce med gel and ops pack usage coz I play with 200-350ms ping as I am not located in USA or EU.