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[Ieldra]

Can't be 100% sure on the exacts but you sort of get this kind of discussion if you are a Templar.
 
On the other hand, I don't know.... the way I see it Cullen joined the Templars because he wanted to help, not because it gave him powers, I don't even think he sees having powers as a benefit, he actually sees them as a sacrifice one must make in order to be useful and for the Inquisitor it is more reasonable to object on the ground of having the military commander be completely incapacitated than less powerful. I mean on one hand I see why you would want it go that way, on the other hand I think it would unnecessary complicate things by talking about  an issue that isn't there.

You see, Cullen wanted to be useful. Those special abilities made him more useful, made it possible to fulfil his duties better. It's not something that can be treated as a separate issue. It may not matter to him at all, but that wouldn't be immediately apparent to the Inquisitor. *And* - that's the point I was originally making - not bringing it up it makes the real-world analogy about addiction fail which was brought home to us so heavy-handedly.

Well, I guess this kind of thematic tunnel-vision works for some. Not for me, though. If a situation consists of several aspects, if I keep asking "what about X", then a merely implied "it doesn't matter" will never be enough. I also observe that I never have this kind of problem in written fiction. Apparently, writers of books are either more willing to deal with complexities or work under less pressure to make everything as simple as possible.

[ThreeF]

You see, Cullen wanted to be useful. Those special abilities made him more useful, made it possible to fulfil his duties better. It's not something that can be treated as a separate issue. It may not matter to him at all, but that wouldn't be immediately apparent to the Inquisitor. *And* - that's the point I was originally making - not bringing it up it makes the real-world analogy about addiction fail which was brought home to us so heavy-handedly.
 

There probably just should have been an option to base IQ objections on that.

 

 

Well, I guess this kind of thematic tunnel-vision works for some. Not for me, though. If a situation consists of several aspects, if I keep asking "what about X", then a merely implied "it doesn't matter" will never be enough. I also observe that I never have this kind of problem in written fiction. Apparently, writers of books are either more willing to deal with complexities or work under less pressure to make everything as simple as possible.

 

It's a problem with finding the proper timing, same reason why many things that work for books don't work for movies, story flow and timing. Tunnel vision has little to do with it.

[papercut_ninja]

This is a jaw droopingly bad thread. As is this terrible pun.

 

come on...that was really...cheeky!

[Hair Serious Business]

Because Isabela was already a love interest in a previous game.

 

And I don't see really any similarities between Isabela and Dorian, other than the fact that they're both not white, but Josephine isn't either, so that must not be it.

 

But now you've got me thinking about how hot of a pirate Dorian would be, so good on you.

Dorian is hottest babe as anything! 

Mmmmm...Dorian   my only reason to play as male.

[Fiery Phoenix]

A question title answered eloquently by the last poster's username:

 

[Abraham_uk]

come on...that was really...cheeky!

 

Did you respond to my post with a pun of your own?

In which case high five!

[Andreas Amell]

When I romanced Isabella in Dragon Age 2, my Hawke was always female. If I had a male Hawke he'd look like an idiot when she runs off with the Tome of Koslun, or a chump for defending her freedom from the Arishok. That make him no better than Carver.

[daveliam]

When I romanced Isabella in Dragon Age 2, my Hawke was always female. If I had a male Hawke he'd look like an idiot when she runs off with the Tome of Koslun, or a chump for defending her freedom from the Arishok. That make him no better than Carver.

 

Huh?  Why?  I totally don't follow.

[Lady Artifice]

Huh?  Why?  I totally don't follow.

 

Wot.

 

 

 

^

 

Same here. 

 

I only was M!Hawke twice out of seven playthroughs, but sarcastic M!Hawke and Isabela was a favorite of mine.

[HuldraDancer]

When I romanced Isabella in Dragon Age 2, my Hawke was always female. If I had a male Hawke he'd look like an idiot when she runs off with the Tome of Koslun, or a chump for defending her freedom from the Arishok. That make him no better than Carver.

 

I always romance Isabela as a woman too but I don't really get what you're getting. Why dose male Hawke look like a fool but not female Hawke?

[Seraphim24]

Why can't you guys get over the orientation of this or that character is really my question. I think Bioware has unfortunately done a pretty bad job of trying to transform the way people view characters, how they use their genitalia, etc, instead of what their core personality and values are and so on..

[parico]

Why cant we have a day here without a thread about complaining about stupid cheesy video game romances????   

[R0vena]

Same here. 

 

I only was M!Hawke twice out of seven playthroughs, but sarcastic M!Hawke and Isabela was a favorite of mine.

+1

 

Loved my sarcastic mHawke + Isabela romance. I actually prefer to romance Isabela as a male. And Merrill. And Anders. Hmm.... Fenris is the only one I romance with female, it seems. But I do play fHawke most of the time.

[o Ventus]

When I romanced Isabella in Dragon Age 2, my Hawke was always female. If I had a male Hawke he'd look like an idiot when she runs off with the Tome of Koslun, or a chump for defending her freedom from the Arishok. That make him no better than Carver.

... ?

 

What the hell does this even mean? How does Hawke's gender make them an idiot?

[daveliam]

+1

 

Loved my sarcastic mHawke + Isabela romance. I actually prefer to romance Isabela as a male. And Merrill. And Anders. Hmm.... Fenris is the only one I romance with female, it seems. But I do play fHawke most of the time.

 

And, ironically, I think Gaider said that he wrong Fenris' romance with a male Hawke primarily in mind. 

 

[Lady Artifice]

+1

 

Loved my sarcastic mHawke + Isabela romance. I actually prefer to romance Isabela as a male. And Merrill. And Anders. Hmm.... Fenris is the only one I romance with female, it seems. But I do play fHawke most of the time.

 

Part of it is my adoration for m!Hawke's voice acting. I love that voice, and I love the way it sounds while he's flirting with Isabela.  

[Seraphim24]

Dream on...

 

 

Well that's the thing.

 

See, they actually did a really good job with that in DA:I... thus, it resulted in the OP chucking a hissy fit and spamming countless threads about why he can't have a pornstar bimbo as a LI.. you know, cause apparently, clocking in 200+ hours to see two seconds of boobs is the most important reason to play a game.. god forbid, you actually enjoy the character's personalities.

 

Well it's also true that Bioware tends to focus on orientations to the point of having a "chart" apparently where sexual orientation (a superficial and meaningless quality) is a central part of character game design.

 

But I see your point, it's not as though a lot of games that don't discuss orientations have very interesting characters a lot of the time, I just don't really regard either as an ideal. In 50 pages, what has this thread achieved? Isabella was hot. You make Cassandra have long hair, tan skin, whatever the OP wants, but keep the lines and everything else exactly the same the experience won't change.

 

I'm also just flat out not seeing the point of these discussions, they seem like flimsy covers to talk about a whole host of other issues that have nothing to do with sexuality itself. It's like, why not just make those threads then?

[Lady Artifice]

Oh and if we're talking about Hawke romances now...

 

Sarcastic fHawke and Isabela = GOD.

 

I think it's sarcastic Hawke + Isabela in general that's so fantastic. 

 

There's just something great about being able make her seem flummoxed. 

[Brevnau]

Let's try something new and establish which game is more superior. Skyrim or Dragon Age series? Of course, why even compare Skyrim to Dragon Age Inquisition? Because we all know Bioware is trying to copy Skyrim in many ways.
 
By 2015 Skyrim sold twenty million copies. By that authority, let us compare Skyrim romance to Dragon Age romance.
 
Skyrim is light years ahead of Bioware in romance options.  I understand that Bioware fleshes out a companions personality FAR more than Skyrim companions. But still, hear me out................
 
In Skyrim you can marry any gender whether you're female or male. There are no issues, no qualms, no prejudice, no favoring one particular group over another.  Everyone is equal whether you're straight, gay or lesbian. All that matters is the NPC's personality and your own personality. That's it. Who you are is more important than which way your genitals swing.
 
Imagine Cassandra, Sera and Dorian being able to be romanced by a male or female player.  No prejudice, no issues, no qualms, all that matters is Cass, Sera & Dorian's personality, who they are. Everyone is equal. 
 
I understand the LGBT community may not like this, so I wouldn't mind you guys having exlusive gay/lesbian characters. Me personally, I don't care. 
 

Warning, the following is a very controversial opinion which explains why I don't care. Remember this is a public forum which is far different from realities and truths discovered in someones private bedroom.

Spoiler

I'm a firm believer that all women are bi-sexual, so it doesn't matter to me if the female romance options for straight male are bi-sexual. It would actually increase my immersion if Cassandra was bi-sexual, then it could explain why she appears somewhat mannish.

 

I'm looking for mature, controversial discussion, so please don't respond with pointless jargon. I never go to your threads and make posts that have nothing to do with the original post. 

 

I honestly wonder if criticism of Cassandra's looks boils down to her short hair... It'd be interesting to see if  a Cass hair mod makes a stark difference to how she is perceived by her detractors.

 

If DAITools reaches a point where I can import her OBJ back into the game.  I will adjust her short hair to make it feminie rather than masculine.  That means it will still remain short, but it'll look ten times better.  It's no secret that Bioware has never figured out how to do hair properly.  They failed hair so hard that hobbiests have managed to do what they can't. Kind of sad actually.

 

So what is it like being not only hilariously wrong, but also a misogynist?

 

I love women, which is why I feel so passionately about making Cassandra look like one.

 

The most common reason I see is because she has a sharp jawline.

 

... I can name numerous women who are traditional beauties and also have sharp jawlines, but for some reason it only applies to Cassandra.

 

There are many other small problems with her facial proportions.  Sublte changes in her geometry will make her look more feminine. I agree that there are many female celebrities with wide jaw line, but the point where the cheek meets the jaw dips inwards slightly.  It's hard to explain.  If that DAITools guy fixes facial OBJ's, I'll give everyone the real Cassandra Pentaghast. She'll still look like Cassandra, just female.

[KaiserShep]

I think having Sera pull an Isabela would probably be too much, all things considered.

[AresKeith]

Welcome to the BSN.

 

A place to go when you want to discuss political/social issues.. under the guise of DA.

 

 

 

Agreed.

 

I liked the idea of the whole "fling", which later on develops into a great bond. Plus, duelling the Arishok.. as Cass said... that's romantic.

To top it all off, all the jokes and the banter between the two.

 

I was missing this level of drama in the Sera romance.. it just went too perfectly, there was no betrayal and deceit and an option of rescuing her from some fuckup she made.

 

You get to play pranks on people though