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Why can't we have a romance option like Isabella for straight male gamers?


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So your not sure why constantly saying a female looks like a man and a transgender, making offensive comments, handwaving other straight mens opinions because they are the opposite of your narrow views, and spamming threads would make people angry?

You missed out the stunning piece of total ignorance where he claimed all women are bi-sexual. Really is it any wonder he is so desperate for Dragon Age to be a dating sim, with his attitude towards women and people in general it's the only action he is ever likely to get. LOL


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You missed out the stunning piece of total ignorance where he claimed all women are bi-sexual. Really is it any wonder he is so desperate for Dragon Age to be a dating sim, with his attitude towards women and people in general it's the only action he is ever likely to get. LOL

 

I added that to offensive comments ;)


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You missed out the stunning piece of total ignorance where he claimed all women are bi-sexual. Really is it any wonder he is so desperate for Dragon Age to be a dating sim, with his attitude towards women and people in general it's the only action he is ever likely to get. LOL

 

:wub:  I fell in love with Morrigan. I want to marry her. :wub: You're right! It's the only action I'm ever going to get in my life! I LOVE IT!

 

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Beautiful, just perfect.  Why can't Cassandra have the same female facial proportions? I'm not asking that Cassandra look like Morrigan, but can't you see her facial proportions? They are clearly female.

 

Play Origins then

 

I have, many, many, many times.

 

You don't realize how annoying it is to have Cassandra & josephine as the only two romance options, when Morrigan & Leliana face models look beautiful, stunning, gorgeous.

 

 

(to Brevnau) I cannot remember if you are the same person as before but people have repeatedly attempted to not only understand your point of view but also attempted to help you understand theirs. A major problem with your thread and the threads before regarding the subject is that you use offensive phrasing and refuse to acknowledge it as such despite being repeatedly informed that it is considered offensive.

 

You do not find Cassandra attractive, that is fine. The problem is that you place such an emphasis on her facial features being "masculine" and remain so adamant at this point that it drowns out whatever request you are attempting to make and is in fact, going to make you a lot less likely to be taken serious.

 

Saying: "I would like a romance that is more akin to Isabella, Leliana or Morrigan in terms of physical appearance" is undeniably going to net you some negative responses but it would be nowhere near as bad.

 

(to xkg) That's like the good ol' saying of "Don't like, don't read" to which I use the good ol' saying of "I have to read it to know that I don't like it". It'd be the same as me telling you "Don't like my comment, don't read it".

 

Look at her, isn't she beautiful?

 

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I want to kiss Cassandra Pentaghast now. Where is the "kiss her" dialogue choice? :P :wub:

 

Please no

 

You shouldn't be against a mechanic that could potentially bring so much happiness to people who aren't happy with how the NPC's look in the game.  If I could take Cassandra into the black emporium and change her face slightly, that would be a dream come true.



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:wub:  I fell in love with Morrigan. I want to marry her. :wub:

 

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Play Origins then


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It wouldn't be much of a forum if we only contributed to topics we liked.

 

If by contribution you mean posting some lame gifs and spamming with useless chit chat between each other (which is like half of this thread) then our definitions of "contribution" may be quite different. 



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Thanks, not sure why these people are so angry. I would respect them if they made a post and try to understand their point of view, instead they make non-relevant posts with weird gifs and odd youtube videos.
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I think that's it for now, if only DAITools can import facial OBJ's back into the game, then I can actually implement this.
 
 

 
Please try to understand.  I have Cassandra's facial OBJ open in 3D studio max. I'm looking at the geometry from every angle. I have charts & diagrams from multiple artists that explain male & female facial proportions. My research concludes that Cassandra was designed with MALE facial proportions.  Do you want me to lie to you?
 
I'm not making this up because I'm bored.  I'm here on this forum because I think a great injustice has been done to Cassandra Pentaghast. What Bioware is doing with confusing the genders angers me.
 
When I say someone looks transgender, that is NOT a bad thing. It just means they look transgender. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't mean that in a bad way, it's just that me personally, I don't find masculine women attractive.
 
See, I believe in choices and options, the american way. 
 
It actually pleases me that you find Cassandra fine the way she is, it means you are enjoying the game, something I desperately want to experience. I want to enjoy the game too, but I can't look at Cassandra's masculine face the whole game. It bothers me a great deal.
 
All of you who come down on me, believe it or not, I take solace in knowing that you guys are enjoying the game. I just wish I could too. :( *Cheers*
 

 
I respect the fact that you don't like my threads, but why keep posting it again and again? :P
 

 
I'm not sure what to tell you, do you want me to diagram her face in 3D Studio max and show you even more proof of her masculine facial features?
 
Dear Bioware,
 
Is there anyway you can open up the files so I can mod the game? Please? :(  Thank you! :( I beg you.

Dude some people may be overreacting a bit but for the most part the only thing that matters is that we have no issue with you saying "I think she looks a bit manly" or "I don't find her attractive", instead it's the utter bull***t way you try to claim that it's fact. You say "she is manly, I have charts" well show us, I would love to see these artists materials that 'prove' she is manly, because let me tell you I've done more than a few life drawing classes in my life and I've never seen anything like that.

Also it's the offensive way you talk about sexuality and gender that riles people up, you obviously can't understand it for whatever reason but saying things like "I believe all girls are bisexual" makes incredible and probably rude assumptions about a ton of people you don't know. Not to mention the claim that someone can 'look transgendered' is ridiculous, not all transgendered people look like drag queens if that's the idea.

You say we need to understand you but if you want to start a thread like this it's you who needs to consider others first and maybe take a long hard look at the way you assume so much about people's appearances and sexuality, because right now it's frankly immature.
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Charts? Charts?!?!

Screenshots of his own google search entries, you mean.
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If by contribution you mean posting some lame gifs and spamming with useless chit chat between each other (which is like half of this thread) then our definitions of "contribution" may be quite different.


That's usually half of just about every thread after they reach over a dozen pages. It's kind of hard to keep a serious discussion for goofy ass topics like this afloat for so long.

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(to Brevnau) I cannot remember if you are the same person as before but people have repeatedly attempted to not only understand your point of view but also attempted to help you understand theirs. A major problem with your thread and the threads before regarding the subject is that you use offensive phrasing and refuse to acknowledge it as such despite being repeatedly informed that it is considered offensive.

 

You do not find Cassandra attractive, that is fine. The problem is that you place such an emphasis on her facial features being "masculine" and remain so adamant at this point that it drowns out whatever request you are attempting to make and is in fact, going to make you a lot less likely to be taken serious.

 

Saying: "I would like a romance that is more akin to Isabella, Leliana or Morrigan in terms of physical appearance" is undeniably going to net you some negative responses but it would be nowhere near as bad.

 

(to xkg) That's like the good ol' saying of "Don't like, don't read" to which I use the good ol' saying of "I have to read it to know that I don't like it". It'd be the same as me telling you "Don't like my comment, don't read it".


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Dear Bioware,

Is there anyway you can open up the files so I can mod the game? Please? :( Thank you! :( I beg you.


And while you’re at it, and working on it anyway, please make your magic mirror in the Black Emporium open to all the NPCs. There is no need to have to down load 20 mods to get your NPC to look kind of like you want them and please add a default button so they can be reset. This is not rocket science for you guys. Or, give us a tool and we will do it for you.

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Don't like the topic, don't read it. Such a simple concept yet so many people can't grasp it. I am amazed.

 

People don't grasp it because it's a nonsense concept.

 

How does one know they like a thread without reading it first? That'd be like me saying that The Avengers is a sh*t movie in spite of me never having seen it.


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And while you’re at it, and working on it anyway, please make your magic mirror in the Black Emporium open to all the NPCs. There is no need to have to down load 20 mods to get your NPC to look kind of like you want them and please add a default button so they can be reset. This is not rocket science for you guys.

 

Please no



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Please no

I'm actually somewhat sure that was a joke.



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Please no


I am actually not interested in changing any faces but I would sure like to make a couple of the quests that are already on the War Board. But, really need a tool where you can edit animation.

However it just does not make any sense to just do the Inquisitioner in the magic mirror and not allow for the other NPCs. Most mods released to date are about facial changes and all getting downloads.
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For me, it's the simple arrogant stupidity of, "I only want to take away what you like because I want to make you happy." Nope. You just want to make yourself happy, and don't give two sh*ts about the rest of us. Instead of being a wuss who hides behind double-speak, just man-up, woman-up, whatever-you-are-up, say that you don't care what anyone else thinks, and stop acting like your tardy-cap'd nonsense is for anything but your own gratification.

 

I'll let the public decide to whom my generic comment is addressed. I'm too drunk to find an example of him saying it to quote. Also, I don't care enough to bother.

 

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People don't grasp it because it's a nonsense concept.

 

How does one know they like a thread without reading it first? That'd be like me saying that The Avengers is a sh*t movie in spite of me never having seen it.

 

That's also very easy. Every intelligent person after reading the "OP" and maybe few more pages should be able to dicide if the thread is for him. At this point most logical conclusion would be to stop reading and just ignore it. Or just screw the intelligent approach and go into thread spammer mode.



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However it just does not make any sense to just do the Inquisitioner and not allow for the other NPCs. Most mods released to date are about facial changes and all getting downloads.

 

It does make sense, the Inquisitor is always customizable the NPCs however are not they are the way Bioware wanted them to be



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That edit of Cassandra with long hair makes her look too much like a hippie. Besides Cassandra and Josephine are already beautiful, stunning,and  gorgeous.



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That's also very easy. Every intelligent person after reading the "OP" should be able to divide if the thread is for him. At this point most logical conclusion would be to stop reading and just ignore it.

That's also not how debates work. When Person A says something that Person B disagrees with, Person B doesn't have to just leave because he doesn't like it. That's juvenile.

 

Granted, we're about 60 pages past any debatable merit this thread may have had (if it had any at all), but when the OP and his buddies want to press something that literally everyone else agrees is stupid and awful (and actually offensive, according to some), there's no harm in continuing to chime in, because the OP is so out of touch with reality that he;ll just continue to make these garbage, nonsense threads like he's been doing. Speak up or stay quiet, he'll just keep doing it until he gets (rightfully) banned.



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It does make sense, the Inquisitor is always customizable the NPCs however are not they are the way Bioware wanted them to be


I was talking from a technical point of view. I could care less what they look like.

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That edit of Cassandra with long hair makes her look too much like a hippie. Besides Cassandra and Josephine are already beautiful, stunning,and  gorgeous.

 

Cassandra as a blonde.

 

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@Brevnau.

See, if you don't like your thread to get locked you better start reporting all those off topic and gif spammers. I am 100% sure they are doing the same for many of your posts. So to show you're not the guilty one here, start reporting them.

 

"inb4lock"/"this again"/"this again" etc etc gif -> report

food recipe -> report

off-topic spam -> report

 

You will be surprised how calm this thread will be very soon. If you do nothing "We are don here, thread derailed" lock is imminent

For easy start here is first candidate. Report him for personal slurs.

 

Spoiler

 

Nah, I don't want anyone to lose access to this forum or lose their account over me in anyway. I don't wish that harm upon my worst forum enemy lol.


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I was talking from a technical point of view. I could care less what they look like.

If you don't care what they look like, then why do you care about the issue at all? You want Bioware to do it just for sh*ts and giggles? Just because you think they can? If anything, they probably couldn't, because the central NPCs have unique faces that can't be accurately recreated in the CC.



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Cassandra as a blonde.

 

 

Seriously, please stop.


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#1524
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My eyes!

 

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collar...hah.