because torm, we're on the leaderboards and know who the perilous players are and there are practically none left that still play.
The game is dying very quickly. It wouldn't surprise me if there was only 1500 players playing at peak. Last week I couldn't even find a threatening game at one point.
Yes, and as I note, you are likely part of the top 0.01% of the player base. As in, you are a grain of sand, no more or less important than the other 99.99%.
You assume alot, and place prehaps 50 people up on a pedestal when likely those 50 people would never spend money on DAMP anyhow, since they already have ready access to alot of gold.
What am I assuming that is wrong? The game has issues, it is highly repetitive, it isn't as good as MEMP and doesn't hold people's attention anywhere near as well. When spacev3gan and I complain about people leaving the game, or at least the people on our friends lists leaving the game, it is because we know that this game is losing a lot of players due to lack of support. Accuse me of assuming as much as you like it doesn't change the fact that I used to be able to get a full team going in under a minute 90% of the time and now I can wait 30 minutes in a lobby waiting for friends or pugs to join.
It'll always be the casuals with more money than time that will carrying the cost.
Neither casuals or hardcore players will buy into the current microtransaction system.
Also, since we do not have any visibility into what the numbers are, I would wager that the casuals are playing just fine.
I base this on the following four infographics;
Bioware did not state whether or not the total number of players is the total number of players who have ever purchased DA3, the total number of players who have loaded into the multiplayer, or the total number of players who have gotten at least one point into the challenge. Additionally, we should keep in mind that simply completing a weekend challenge does not mean that a player is playing as much as he used to. Many people I know simply do the weekend challenges and then leave the game.
However, we can clearly see the increase in agents that complete the challenge, obviously Patch 4 is likely a large part of this, but I don't see why we would be concerned that a number of the top 0.01% quits the game, other than to make drama (this is the BSN after all)
Although we can guess at the size of the playerbase by using such numbers, and (what I prefer) by calculating the hourly rate at which the challenges are being completed during the weekend challenges, it is not something which is any superior an indicator of the player base than the very obvious migration of players away from the game which people like spacev3gan and myself have noticed. You say it doesn't matter when people complain about the top 100 leaderboard players leaving, but it does matter, because these players are players who have put the most hours into the game, are the most dedicated and able to tolerate the game more than most. Many casuals will reach this point of 400+ hours of gameplay eventually, and then they will be in the same position we are in. The position of having played this repetitive game so much with so little variety, replayability. And they will leave like us once they have reached this point.
Your post is particularly funny to me because as someone who has put a ridiculous amount of time into the game since day 1, I have been trying to quickly bring to the attention of the community and bioware of the bugs and design flaws which often the casual players on the forum are oblivious to until they eventually reach the same amount of progress as me and realize the same BS but a lot later when they should've taken what I said a little more seriously instead of usually just attacking me. I can only feel sad that this game has so much wasted potential and LOL at you saying that the playerbase is doing just fine when my experience and the experience of other people who have put a lot more time into the game know otherwise.
how is dying light?
It's a lot of fun, although I recommend playing it with at least 1 other person or you will die so many times. Running through the city when you get your grappling hook is great, graphics are awesome. 2 thumbs up.
As for the guy who said don't get Evolve, I disagree. The main issue is that each class plays a specific role and if a person plays it wrong you lose. It isn't like DAMP where 1 person can carry the team. If someone sucks you can lose purely because of them sucking. But if you have people to play with, even just 1 other it's good.
I just hop on for weekend events now and only for the personal goal. Usually get bored by match 4 or 5 and log off. Overall once you get good gear and try out a bunch of different builds for each characters it loses it's luster pretty fast.
threat
1st. 3 seconds 4 ppl
2nd 5 seconds alrdy running match 4 ppl
3rd 3 seconds 3 ppl
perilous
1st 3 seconds arldy running match 4 ppl
2nd 8 seconds 4 ppl
3rd 3 seconds 3 ppl
i just did 3 tries since i did search for the different maps ( iam bad with names ) .. it was just a quick test.. on my fl 5 friends are playing DAMP right now out of 10 DAMP players ( the others playing other games and never touched DAI )
Tho i know its prime time right now for europeans... on the other hand.. in 1 hr the playercount will drop ( atleast for europe ).
so... yeah there are no lobbies at all.. /quit.. i don´t get these threads... quit if you don´t like the situation or look for a constant party and play with them or simple.. with real friends.
since this isn´t a mmorpg.. who cares how much players are there.. for the leaderbord ? *lolz* its just a time thingy and how good you know the gamemechanics.
so... yeah there are no lobbies at all.. /quit.. i don´t get these threads... quit if you don´t like the situation or look for a constant party and play with them or simple.. with real friends.
since this isn´t a mmorpg.. who cares how much players are there.. for the leaderbord ? *lolz* its just a time thingy and how good you know the gamemechanics.
SpaceV3gan has a lot of issues getting into lobbies because he lives very far from most other players and because of the sh*t matchmaking programming in this game.
With at least several hundred players within matchmaking range of you, the numbers you posted can happen. The thing is, DA3 is a game that has sold at least one million copies and maybe even two million+ copies (EA didn't disclose sales data). Just because you are able to find other players well during primetime is not a good indicator of how large the player base is because it could be several times smaller or larger and you could possibly still be getting into lobbies very fast similarly. When you notice that during non-prime time you used to be able to get pug and/or private teams much faster, then THAT is an indicator that the player base is going down.
Anyway, all of this is moot. The real issue is that there is little in this game to hold the attention of players once they've grinded enough and we would much appreciate it if bioware would hurry up and give us some new content before there's no one left to play the game thx.
Any ideas on how specifically is region-lock divided? Is it country-based or distance based? Can someone from UK get matched with someone from France/Germany? Or from Poland/Russia?
Yes, you can - and often do.
I'm based in Denmark, and often get people from Poland on the Czech republic in my lobbies going by their CH or PL usernames.
threat
1st. 3 seconds 4 ppl
2nd 5 seconds alrdy running match 4 ppl
3rd 3 seconds 3 ppl
perilous
1st 3 seconds arldy running match 4 ppl
2nd 8 seconds 4 ppl
3rd 3 seconds 3 ppl
i just did 3 tries since i did search for the different maps ( iam bad with names ) .. it was just a quick test.. on my fl 5 friends are playing DAMP right now out of 10 DAMP players ( the others playing other games and never touched DAI )
Tho i know its prime time right now for europeans... on the other hand.. in 1 hr the playercount will drop ( atleast for europe ).
so... yeah there are no lobbies at all.. /quit.. i don´t get these threads... quit if you don´t like the situation or look for a constant party and play with them or simple.. with real friends.
since this isn´t a mmorpg.. who cares how much players are there.. for the leaderbord ? *lolz* its just a time thingy and how good you know the gamemechanics.
I used to see myself playing DAMP for no less than a year provided that it is supported as ME3 was and now I question myself how many days like this I can take.
Then go do something else.
Seriously.
No game is designed to be constantly entertaining for months on end.
When there is DLC come back...
Then go do something else.
You've no idea how much SpaceV3gan likes this game and how much issues he has to deal with just to get any games going because of the bad matchmaking system, latency-related bugs, and a constantly shrinking pool of people who can play with him without lag or bugs making things completely unplayable. You think you're defending the game against a hater. Funny, because SpaceV3gan is by far the most patient and dedicated fan of this game I've ever met.
War frâme and recently evolve are games specifically designed as mp games with more progression and depth.
As someone who put in many, many hours into Warfarm, there isn't a whole lot more progression or depth in that game.
You've no idea how much SpaceV3gan likes this game and how much issues he has to deal with just to get any games going because of the bad matchmaking system, latency-related bugs, and a constantly shrinking pool of people who can play with him without lag or bugs making things completely unplayable..
And while I sympathize for him, Sofajockey's advise still stands.
Raging for the sake of raging does no one except prehaps yourself any good. The community at large will not be a better place for it and it does not help with dev interactions to constantly jump up and down on every little line of text they post - so why keep up all this negativity?
Just move on, I'm sure we will still be here in due time - Bioware does not get things done faster because a select group of the top 0.01% of players with the most play time bark at them.
Raging for the sake of raging does no one except prehaps yourself any good. The community at large will not be a better place for it and it does not help with dev interactions to constantly jump up and down on every little line of text they post - so why keep up all this negativity?
Just move on, I'm sure we will still be here in due time - Bioware does not get things done faster because a select group of the top 0.01% of players with the most play time bark at them.
You call it raging, barking, and negativity, I call it valid complaints and criticism which deserve to be heard and which if heeded would benefit both players and EA/bioware. You are very dismissive and keep going on about how we're just a whining minority, but its just lost on you that the only reason we do what we do is because we want to see things improve. Space and I paid for this game just like you. We have every right to post our thoughts on this forum, so stop telling us to go away, thanks.
Move on when I still want to play the game? Is that what people are suggesting me to do?
I am not sick nor tired of the game. I like it very much and I want to keep playing it. I can't quit a game I want to play simply because I don't have people to play with.
It is sad that those PC enthusiasts who used to play with me are gone and even the casual ones are leaving by the day. Adding more people isn't covering the deficit at all.
I despise the region-lock matchmaking above anything and I think it is just unfair that I can't land on a busy American server during their primetime and instead I end up stranded in my region, which is not new information for those who have read my posts before.
This thread is my general rant based solely on my personal struggle with the game. Once again, those who don't have friends outside the NA-EU priviledged gaming sphere will probably not understand me clearly, but I am fine being labeled dramaqueen.
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It's a lot of fun, although I recommend playing it with at least 1 other person or you will die so many times. Running through the city when you get your grappling hook is great, graphics are awesome. 2 thumbs up.
As for the guy who said don't get Evolve, I disagree. The main issue is that each class plays a specific role and if a person plays it wrong you lose. It isn't like DAMP where 1 person can carry the team. If someone sucks you can lose purely because of them sucking. But if you have people to play with, even just 1 other it's good.
Oh wow... So this is why I keep getting requests to do reviews...
So I'm going to subjective rant for a few moments... I'll throw it in a spoiler so people can just skip it if they want:
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Couldn't agree more on those points.
Funny you mention Fallout 4 or other games I was just talking to my friend about how I want a new Fallout game.
Dying Light and Evolve, if you know what to expect going in you won't be disappointed. If you expect amazing things you will have issues. I haven't enjoyed many of the PS4 games since I bought mine but these 2 have at least been more fun to play than a lot of others.
same here, it takes lot of time to find a group,
btw you can add me, I play on pc
I'm one of SpaceV3gan's more recent friend list additions (although under a different name). While I agree with most of the complaints already posted, the reason I've been playing less has nothing to do with burnout or frustration. My homework/studies are demanding more of my time, so when I get on DAMP it might only be for an hour or so when I need a break (longer on the weekends).
Reason for posting: just putting it out there that some of us might be playing less due to real life obligations/responsibilities.
First I don't think it's the other players, I think it's they don't want to play with you. I like playing with pugs and beginners that improve and want to try new builds, but you on the other hand constantly play a broken build telling people its awesome. Your Arcane Warrior is horrible even though multiple people have tried to help you, that is why you are seeing less people play with you, because they don't want to play with someone that makes the game harder. Having you in the group feels like a handi cap. When you were dead and there was just Me and another player 2 manning the rest it was honestly a lot easier. 
First I don't think it's the other players, I think it's they don't want to play with you. I like playing with pugs and beginners that improve and want to try new builds, but you on the other hand constantly play a broken build telling people its awesome. Your Arcane Warrior is horrible even though multiple people have tried to help you, that is why you are seeing less people play with you, because they don't want to play with someone that makes the game harder. Having you in the group feels like a handi cap. When you were dead and there was just Me and another player 2 manning the rest it was honestly a lot easier.
I don't actually know how to interpret this Irier, especially because it is your first post on BSN forums, possibly from a fresh account. We haven't played all that much, but the last thing I do is to tell other people about my builds. In fact, I started playing the Arcane Warrior last night and I've been asking Spacemonkey712 and others how I should spec it, because seriously I have no clue how to play it; I've barely played 30 completed games with it.
It is perfectly understandable that some people will choose not to play with me due to infinite personal reasons, but "constantly play a broken build and telling people it is awesome" is just not me. Perhaps others who have had more experience sharing their time in game with me can give a more accurate testimony of what type of person I am.
Heh, I like the Dying Light and Evolve reviews.
Not 100% on-board for your take on Dying Light because I've found it, like most Techland games before it, to be ridiculously good fun when playing co-op. You're spot-on with the story. I expect to have an absurd amount of fun playing Hellraid too.
When the early rumble started for Evolve, I immediately thought, "So it's just the tank from L4D? That's the whole game?" And really, no matter how much extra "game-play" you try to drape over it, that's what it is. And while the Tank was a cool part of L4D, it was just still just part of a game.
FWIW, if you need a Baldur's Gate itch scratched, Pillars of Eternity has come a LONG way from where it started it's closed Beta.
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