So I'm on one of my playthroughs (I've finished two, still have about three to go), in Dragon Age: Inquisition and can't decide who to side with for my "canon" inquisitor, the mages or templars. I just need to know what happens to the mages if you side with the templars, and what happens to the templars if you side with the mages (though im pretty sure the templar order dissolves if you side with the mages) because I can't remember exactly what happened in my epilogues. Can anyone help me out here?:/
Mages or Templars Dilemma
#1
Posté 24 février 2015 - 11:37
#2
Posté 24 février 2015 - 11:41
Corypheus gets the other side.
#3
Posté 24 février 2015 - 11:44
Should give you an idea of what happens to each group.
Corypheus gets the other side.
This. Mages become Venatori, Templars become Red Templars. Thus the mage rebellion is crushed (presumably leaving only loyalist Mages) or the Templar Order is depleted (presumably leaving moderate/pro-mage Templars).
#4
Posté 24 février 2015 - 11:47
Siding with the templars: The rebel mages joins the Venatori (some people insist they were brainwashed, but there is no proof), in the epilogue they are only mentioned in the Divine part.So I'm on one of my playthroughs (I've finished two, still have about three to go), in Dragon Age: Inquisition and can't decide who to side with for my "canon" inquisitor, the mages or templars. I just need to know what happens to the mages if you side with the templars, and what happens to the templars if you side with the mages (though im pretty sure the templar order dissolves if you side with the mages) because I can't remember exactly what happened in my epilogues. Can anyone help me out here?:/
Cassandra: reformed Circles (I think they are no longer obligatory).
Leliana: the Circles are disbanded and the mages are free.
Vivienne: the Circles come back, but it give more freedom and responsability for the mages.
Siding with the mages: the Order is corrupted by the red lyrium, and like the mages they are only mentioned in the epilogue.
Cassandra: reform the templars to be protestos instead of jailors.
Leliana: dont rebuild the templars, so the Order no longer exist.
Vivienne: rebuild the Order, firmly leasher to her.
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#5
Posté 24 février 2015 - 11:56
It also varies on wither you conscript or ally with the side you choose though seeing that reminded me how you can lose in no less than 8 different ways, that's more than any game I've played since Kings Quest.
- Cha0sEff3ct aime ceci
#6
Posté 25 février 2015 - 07:43
What about the Tages or the Memplars?
1 side has Ser Barras, the other does not. I think tis' pretty clear the Templars are the way to go =P
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#7
Posté 25 février 2015 - 11:12
I greatly disliked the templar mission, as I felt rushed even thought there wasn't a timer to begin with, and I absolutely refuse to move forward untill I have collected everything. I guess I was supposed to try and save the templars who fought in the areas.. but loot takes priority when i'm not personally engaged in combat.
The flags also annoyed me a tiny bit simply because I was unable to only pick the people flag while leaving the other two in the dust
not awesome.
#8
Posté 27 février 2015 - 04:21
Personally, I felt the game made more sense as a whole when siding with the mages. For starters, the mages come to you for help while the templars tell you to @)#$&% off. I mean, which side are you more likely to help out?
I found the mage quests (fighting in the Chantry with Dorian, defeating Alexis, and hunting down Samson) more satisfying than the templar ones (defeating the Envy demon and planting suspicion for Calpuria). Plus, the mage side is the only one that gives you the King Alistair cameo (if you made him king).
No matter what you do, the Red Templars are still EVERYWHERE which I found to be really strange when doing my templar playthrough. At least the Venatori haven't laid claim to a whole map like the Red Templars do with Emprise du Lion, and with Alexis only being part of the Venatori, it makes sense to still have sects around. I just feel like the Red Templar presence was too big in a templar-allied playthrough. So, I prefer the mages.
- DFirayner aime ceci
#9
Posté 27 février 2015 - 04:30
Personally, I felt the game made more sense as a whole when siding with the mages. For starters, the mages come to you for help while the templars tell you to @)#$&% off. I mean, which side are you more likely to help out?
I found the mage quests (fighting in the Chantry with Dorian, defeating Alexis, and hunting down Samson) more satisfying than the templar ones (defeating the Envy demon and planting suspicion for Calpuria). Plus, the mage side is the only one that gives you the King Alistair cameo (if you made him king).
No matter what you do, the Red Templars are still EVERYWHERE which I found to be really strange when doing my templar playthrough. At least the Venatori haven't laid claim to a whole map like the Red Templars do with Emprise du Lion, and with Alexis only being part of the Venatori, it makes sense to still have sects around. I just feel like the Red Templar presence was too big in a templar-allied playthrough. So, I prefer the mages.
I personally feel that the Inquisition is a catalyst for change, so I see freedom for the mages a more reasonable option than trying to save a lost order. Just my opinion though, not everyone's canon is the same ![]()
- DFirayner aime ceci
#10
Posté 27 février 2015 - 04:35
I personally feel that the Inquisition is a catalyst for change, so I see freedom for the mages a more reasonable option than trying to save a lost order. Just my opinion though, not everyone's canon is the same
I do wonder if it really makes a difference in the end. By the epilogue, it seems like who ends up as divine determines what happens to the mages and templars, with your specific choice offering more details but not necessarily change. For example, it sounds like the Collage of Mages (or whatever it is called) is created even if you don't specifically side with the mages.
- The_Last_Griffon aime ceci
#11
Posté 27 février 2015 - 04:35
Opinion: I like absorbing the Templar order into the inquisition, Having Cass rebuild the Seekers, and having Cullen cured of his Lyrium addiction. The Templars in the epilogue begin to join the ranks of the new seekers and begin the process of ridding themselves of the lyrium addiction due to Cullen's example.
The bonus: You get Calpernia as Cory's general instead of Samson whom I think has a much more interesting and engaging story and subquests.
- The_Last_Griffon aime ceci
#12
Posté 27 février 2015 - 04:38
Opinion: I like absorbing the Templar order into the inquisition, Having Cass rebuild the Seekers, and having Cullen cured of his Lyrium addiction. The Templars in the epilogue begin to join the ranks of the new seekers and begin the process of ridding themselves of the lyrium addiction due to Cullen's example.
That does sound satisfying. I assume without recruiting them to the Inquisition, the templars just wonder around lost after everything is said and done. Though, I personally think I'd rather the templas work to protect the people in general than join the Seekers.
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#13
Posté 27 février 2015 - 04:40
Mages until it is revealed that they made a deal with the devil, at which time my Inquisitor could not high tail it from Redcliffe fast enough. Really wish there had been an option to immediately leave the tavern the moment you learn that a Magister is in control....or an option to stab him there. Sure the mages might hate you, but you would get plenty of brownie points with the Fereldan monarch.Personally, I felt the game made more sense as a whole when siding with the mages. For starters, the mages come to you for help while the templars tell you to @)#$&% off. I mean, which side are you more likely to help out?
- The_Last_Griffon et Heidirs aiment ceci
#14
Posté 27 février 2015 - 04:50
That does sound satisfying. I assume without recruiting them to the Inquisition, the templars just wonder around lost after everything is said and done. Though, I personally think I'd rather the templas work to protect the people in general than join the Seekers.
That's what the seekers will be under Cassandra though. She plans to reform the order, and they will have the power the seekers have without the need for lyrium or the leash it holds.
If you don't side with the templars, they are assumed to be all corrupted by the red lyrium eventually and in service to Cory. I'm sure some make it out - and there are many that are in other parts of the world as well. In general though - the ones you would have saved would have fallen because they were completely unaware of what was happening right under their nose - and without you showing up and forcing the demons hand early, they would have all succumb eventually.
- The_Last_Griffon aime ceci
#15
Posté 27 février 2015 - 04:54
1 side has Ser Barras, the other does not. I think tis' pretty clear the Templars are the way to go =P
The other has Fiona, who actually stays in Skyhold and can talk to you unlike Barris.
#16
Posté 27 février 2015 - 04:56
I personally feel that the Inquisition is a catalyst for change, so I see freedom for the mages a more reasonable option than trying to save a lost order. Just my opinion though, not everyone's canon is the same
Wait.... wait....... so in DA:I, you are the star child ?
- The_Last_Griffon et Lethaya aiment ceci
#17
Posté 27 février 2015 - 05:25
Yes, Fiona who stands around doing nothing vs. See Badass Barris who is too busy saving mages, doing awesome stuff, and leading the templars in the correct direction. Lawn ornament versus action movie hero....not much of a contest.The other has Fiona, who actually stays in Skyhold and can talk to you unlike Barris.
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#18
Posté 27 février 2015 - 05:35
The other has Fiona, who actually stays in Skyhold and can talk to you unlike Barris.
It did bother me you couldn't talk to Barris. ![]()
- The_Last_Griffon aime ceci
#19
Posté 27 février 2015 - 05:42
It also varies on wither you conscript or ally with the side you choose though seeing that reminded me how you can lose in no less than 8 different ways, that's more than any game I've played since Kings Quest.
King's Quest!! Awww, man I miss that whole series. It's so funny how many stupid things end the game for you. What's worse is if you miss an item or use it up in the wrong way you're pretty much SOL for completing the game.
- The_Last_Griffon aime ceci
#20
Posté 27 février 2015 - 07:32
Opinion: I like absorbing the Templar order into the inquisition, Having Cass rebuild the Seekers, and having Cullen cured of his Lyrium addiction. The Templars in the epilogue begin to join the ranks of the new seekers and begin the process of ridding themselves of the lyrium addiction due to Cullen's example.
I wonder how they'll feel about the passing rate of the Seeker initiation.
No Seekers pls.
#21
Posté 05 mars 2015 - 02:20
Opinion: I like absorbing the Templar order into the inquisition, Having Cass rebuild the Seekers, and having Cullen cured of his Lyrium addiction. The Templars in the epilogue begin to join the ranks of the new seekers and begin the process of ridding themselves of the lyrium addiction due to Cullen's example.
The bonus: You get Calpernia as Cory's general instead of Samson whom I think has a much more interesting and engaging story and subquests.
This. I personally like Calpernia's character more as well, Samson was okay but not as interesting in my opinion. I also enjoyed absorbing the Templars into the inquisition because it makes it seem like a more powerful force (even though it really makes little difference). I can't see myself making Cullen stick with Lyrium, but I'll just figure it out as I go. Maybe I'll see how Lyrium affects him if he stays with it. Think I'm going with the Templars this time around, I just never liked being forced to choose one side or the other for this situation. I'm bad at picking sides lol
#22
Posté 05 mars 2015 - 02:41
If he stay on Lyrium he is more cold and distant, he blames himself for not being able to resist it.This. I personally like Calpernia's character more as well, Samson was okay but not as interesting in my opinion. I also enjoyed absorbing the Templars into the inquisition because it makes it seem like a more powerful force (even though it really makes little difference). I can't see myself making Cullen stick with Lyrium, but I'll just figure it out as I go. Maybe I'll see how Lyrium affects him if he stays with it. Think I'm going with the Templars this time around, I just never liked being forced to choose one side or the other for this situation. I'm bad at picking sides lol
I did it in my first playthrough, didnt even know it would affect the epilogue, but in the end its better if they take Lyrium, withouth it they are simple soldiers.
#23
Posté 05 mars 2015 - 04:34
1 side has Ser Barras, the other does not. I think tis' pretty clear the Templars are the way to go =P
That is why I side with the Templars. Every single time. Doesn't matter if I play a mage or not.
- The Hierophant et Cha0sEff3ct aiment ceci
#24
Posté 05 mars 2015 - 04:48
The Mage side seemed more interesting, not to mention more urgent. The way Lord Seeker speaks to my character in Val R. I could imagine her giving him the finger and saying, "Well looks like we are helping the mages then...ass."
Plus on top of it since I romance Cullen on every play-through that means extra dialogue!
And finally having Samson's story carry over to DAI allows me to understand and find conclusion-more-a-less.
Also I find Ser Barris about as interesting as paint drying.
But that is my two-cents. ![]()
- thesuperdarkone2 aime ceci
#25
Posté 05 mars 2015 - 04:50
The Mage side seemed more interesting, not to mention more urgent. The way Lord Seeker speaks to my character in Val R. I could imagine her giving him the finger and saying, "Well looks like we are helping the mages then...ass."
Plus on top of it since I romance Cullen on every play-through that means extra dialogue!
And finally having Samson's story carry over to DAI allows me to understand and find conclusion-more-a-less.
Also I find Ser Barris about as interesting as paint drying.
But that is my two-cents.
Pretty much my viewpoint. I support it from a roleplaying and metagaming point of view but if that's your cup of coffee fine by me.





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