15 réponses à ce sujet

[HomicidalHaz]

     I find it incredibly irritating how many players join games and simply afk entire matches. Additionally, most other players don't even notice to kick them.  There are many options to make this a non-issue and I'd really prefer not to carry people who can't be bothered to do anything but join the game and sit idle. This is on the pc platform, and 9 out of 10 games players will not have mics (myself included due to issues with my drivers). It is even more frustrating as I have a keyboard right in front of me and can't tell the other 2 party members that we're currently being exploited by some inbred mouth-breather.  I'm sure I'm not the only one who has noticed this trend and it is only a trend because there are too many players who aren't aware a kick-vote has been placed, or that they can even place a vote to kick while a game is in session.

 

Here are just a few suggestions to how this can be handled:

 

-Enable text chat

 

-Enable notifications to players in a party when a vote has been place: "Homicidal has placed a vote to kick mouthbreatherX"

 

-Enable AFK auto-kick after X minutes

 

     I realize text chat is unlikely considering how long mass effect players on PC have begged for this feature (although it would be the best), but something needs to be done.  You're quick to ban players that exploit your store and gameplay mechanics, but now that they're exploiting the community that supports you, what will you do about it?  Thank you for a great game and your consideration on this topic.  I only hope it gets better for those  of us who are playing to enjoy it, and worse for those who would take advantage of us in such a fashion.

[Vanth]

What harm do they do? If you kick them out, can you still add another person?

[(Disgusted noise.)]

What harm do they do? If you kick them out, can you still add another person?

A lot actually. If they AFK in a lobby, the game won't start and it's surprisingly hard to get everyone else to boot someone. Typically people get irritated and just leave the room. If they AFK once they're inside of the game, it's a massive annoyance. In addition to being down a man for the whole game, mobs will chase back to the last check point and attack them. So often enough you'll reach the next door only to realize that one or two enemies are still alive back where the AFK-er is, and then you have to run all the way back through the section.

[Keitaro57]

Well, I am in a AFK state a lot of time in multiplayer. Not that I am really AFK, just that my character doesn't move at all. Sometimes it is at the very beginning of the map. Sometimes when I am teleported to the rest of the team when they open a door before me. Sometimes, when I am teleported, I gain control over my character again. Sometimes not.

 

Before launching your fury against an immobile player, think about that : perhaps he is furious himself to let the team progress without him and he's praying to regain control of his avatar...

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

I don't know about the notification thing... based on my experience, it's better not to use that.

 

But I definitely would like an AFK auto-kick function, similar to the one in Mass Effect 3. Especially because it would function better in DAMP with the way lobbies are set up for accepting new players into existing games.

[Teddie Sage]

Just have a micro and shout people to kick that person if they're AFK. I had many issues with they key glitch a patch ago and people had to ask me to be kicked out if I was the leader. I accepted as it was the only way to fix the match.

[JaneLunaC]

Well, I am in a AFK state a lot of time in multiplayer. Not that I am really AFK, just that my character doesn't move at all. Sometimes it is at the very beginning of the map. Sometimes when I am teleported to the rest of the team when they open a door before me. Sometimes, when I am teleported, I gain control over my character again. Sometimes not.

 

Before launching your fury against an immobile player, think about that : perhaps he is furious himself to let the team progress without him and he's praying to regain control of his avatar...

Yeah, same here, sometimes people appear to be afk, when they are in fact trying to still load in or having other problems.

If they have an older computer, loading in can take a few minutes,

and sometimes it loads half-way (where you can see your avatar but can't move yet).

 

So it's not always 'afk omg so rude', maybe they actually want to play, but their computers are slow and they still haven't loaded everything yet

[Keitaro57]

Yeah, same here, sometimes people appear to be afk, when they are in fact trying to still load in or having other problems.

If they have an older computer, loading in can take a few minutes,

and sometimes it loads half-way (where you can see your avatar but can't move yet).

 

So it's not always 'afk omg so rude', maybe they actually want to play, but their computers are slow and they still haven't loaded everything yet

In fact, this issue happens on consoles too. We have all the same hardware but sometimes we get catch in a nearly infinite loading loop.

[plain_disgusted]

I'm really Sick of these frigging topics trying to justify vote to kick in open games. There is no valid reason to kick someone out of an open game for any reason. If you don't want someone in a game you're in, then either leave, or make a private game, that's what it's there for.

 

WTF are people complaining it's taking to long, but instead of leaving and making another lobby, which is faster, continue hanging around wasting time.

[JaneLunaC]

In fact, this issue happens on consoles too. We have all the same hardware but sometimes we get catch in a nearly infinite loading loop.

Yeah, sometimes I get this glitch where I just have to force close the game cause I can't get out of it (even waiting nearly 8 mins or something).

 

Usually the loading in is only about 2 mins or so, but that infinite load glitch is so annoying.

 Especially if you're grouped with a group you like, because there's not really a way to get back in if they were randoms,

and then you feel rude for suddenly quiting on them like that or making them wait too long, but what can you do, you know.

Gets frustrating sometimes.

[Keitaro57]

I'm really Sick of these frigging topics trying to justify vote to kick in open games. There is no valid reason to kick someone out of an open game for any reason. If you don't want someone in a game you're in, then either leave, or make a private game, that's what it's there for.

 

WTF are people complaining it's taking to long, but instead of leaving and making another lobby, which is faster, continue hanging around wasting time.

I'm still for the "kick" option. When I'm locked on the ground with this glitch, I call the other players and ask them to kick me out. This way, I'm back at the HQ screen and can search another team. If not, I must reboot the console forcefully and I don't like that. If the kick doesn't exist, it means I will punish the whole team because I'm suffering from a glitch! They will need to dismantle their team and, if they used the random command to form it, won't be able to find the same team!!!

 

I used kick on some gamers too : Guys that let me dying on the ground, even with not an enemy around. Guys that use the mic to play the DJ and let us hear his crappy music (must wait to regain the lobby to find WHO it was). Players with a foul mouth and doesn't stop to be offensive... Why must I leave? They come, bother me and I must leave? In real life, yeah, because the justice will be really heavy if you have the bad idea to defend your own life. But on the net, you can clean this mess by making leaving the troublemakers.

 

I get kicked too, but mostly by high-level players that doesn't want to play the carrier. They aim for the top, not me. It's legit.

[Panda]

I think this is needed. Especially in game sessions. There was one-time where guy just afked and rest of us died to enemies and all we could do is to wait until everyone realises that pressing select (in PS3) you get to option to vote for kick. One guy in our team that wasn't afker never realised it so after waiting 15 minutes I just exited game without getting any exp and money. Sigh.

[TBJack]

What harm do they do? If you kick them out, can you still add another person?

 

I think I must be misunderstanding your post somehow.  Are you asking if another person can join after you kick someone?  I mean, it opens up a slot in the lobby, so yeah.  That seems like the point really, to get someone who won't AFK.

 

It's also worth noting that AFK people will die quickly at Zone 5, and thus drop into the Fade, making the whole thing more difficult.  A lot of groups won't be able to handle that.

[Vanth]

I think I must be misunderstanding your post somehow.  Are you asking if another person can join after you kick someone?  I mean, it opens up a slot in the lobby, so yeah.  That seems like the point really, to get someone who won't AFK.

 

No - you weren't misunderstanding. I wasn't sure if you people could still join after the start. Since you claim that they can, kicking someone out who is not participating has an obvious function in that it lets someone else in. Therefore it is a positive thing and not just pointless punishment of the AFK person. 

[HomicidalHaz]

I'm really Sick of these frigging topics trying to justify vote to kick in open games. There is no valid reason to kick someone out of an open game for any reason. If you don't want someone in a game you're in, then either leave, or make a private game, that's what it's there for.

 

WTF are people complaining it's taking to long, but instead of leaving and making another lobby, which is faster, continue hanging around wasting time.

 

Allow me to clarify- if you join my game in session at stage one or two and by stage four or five the only time you have moved is being ported to each checkpoint, then yeah, that is a pretty valid reason to kick your freeloading ass, especially on perilous.  I've had the issue when joining a game I couldn't move and I leave those games immediately, as that issue won't rectify itself no matter how much you run in place.  I've also had the situation where the game loads indefinitely and I'll alt + f4 when I know that is the case.  I don't understand why people are so sensitive to this topic, but players who have been inactive for a majority of the session are the only ones I ever try to kick.  Telling me to leave my game and sacrifice my xp and time because someone joins and sits idle the entire match is some really broken logic.  Also you shouldn't complain about complainers, its unbecoming.

 

 

 

It's also worth noting that AFK people will die quickly at Zone 5, and thus drop into the Fade, making the whole thing more difficult.  A lot of groups won't be able to handle that.

 

 

 

This is exactly right, it becomes significantly more difficult with each dead player. Also for me personally, I tend to like 4 players cooperating in my 4 player coop games, but maybe I'm just crazy.

 

 

No - you weren't misunderstanding. I wasn't sure if you people could still join after the start. Since you claim that they can, kicking someone out who is not participating has an obvious function in that it lets someone else in. Therefore it is a positive thing and not just pointless punishment of the AFK person. 

 

This is the point, to get someone who will contribute, and to be rid of the individual who joins afk just to mooch gold and xp at the expense of my party without even bothering to play.  Alot of times they will be level 1, obviously they're just in it for a free ride as if you were to carry them the entire way through they'd probably level to 10 or so if not higher off of that one match alone.

[TBJack]

I'm really Sick of these frigging topics trying to justify vote to kick in open games. There is no valid reason to kick someone out of an open game for any reason. If you don't want someone in a game you're in, then either leave, or make a private game, that's what it's there for.

 

WTF are people complaining it's taking to long, but instead of leaving and making another lobby, which is faster, continue hanging around wasting time.

 

So, if someone's intentionally ruining my game (AFK, aggroing entire level with a group that isn't ready) that I started, I should have to leave because making them leave my game is wrong?

 

That's silly.

 

You're silly.