It'd be something if there is a romanceable Transgender character in the Next DA whose sexuality is anything under the sun. Can't get anymore "Look we support LGBT." Than that bioware.
Perpetually betrayed hetero gamer here and if the character is written like garrus, merrill, harding or dorian then game the frak on.
I'd rather every romance option be bi just for the options it would provide but that's apparently not in the cards anymore.
You get the Masterwork Archon Staff from "Track Spies in Vyrantium", one of a series of wartable quests from the Qunari, which are said to have a dramatic impact on Qunari society if you succeed with the quests.
This certainly piqued my interest.
Is there a codex entry or some sort of dialogue/war table text that explains what exactly this dramatic impact is?
Sex-ception!
I'm sorry that made me laugh.
That staff is too good for me to spare the chargers sooo yeah..Plus I have this thing where I try to collect all the schematics.
Your kidding? Krem aside the chargers are part of what i enjoyed about Dragon Age Inquisition, the whole team screams badass and yet again another part of the game they should have emphasized but didn't, I like Dalish (not a mage 
) and the "Shem killah"
Dunno if anyone else responded to you, but the reason we get to ask about his gender identity is because he mentions that he could give IB tips on binding, i.e. binding breasts.
To be more on topic, gender is a social construct. Like others have said it may or may not match your biological sex. Gender and biological sex do not equal the same thing. For example, I am a cisgender woman, but I identify more with so-called masculine qualities over feminine ones as society defines them. The key here is society. Society defines expectations for each gender. Some people feel that their biological parts do not match the gender they feel themselves to be.
So it is about the values placed on gender by society, such as roles and stereotypes associated with each gender? I have always thought a person's gender and biological sex were the same thing but after doing a quick google search apparently that is the wrong definition as gender refers to ones role is society or culture rather than biological sex (has this always been the definition or has it been changed in recent years?), however even when gender roles were a thing they were tied so closely to biological sex the distinction seems almost non-existent
If gender truly is one's role in society rather than their biological sex it would seem gender is becoming an outdated concept, we no longer define roles by gender, we don't call a female mechanic a man nor do we call a stay at home dad a woman, of course we still have our stigmas and stereotypes but largely gender constructs are becoming less of a thing.
However in a universe like Dragon Age where gender roles aren't a thing where does Krem fit into the picture?
So it is about the values placed on gender by society, such as roles and stereotypes associated with each gender? I have always thought a person's gender and biological sex but after doing a quick google search apparently that is the wrong definition as gender refers to ones role is society or culture rather than biological sex (has this always been the definition or has it been changed in recent years?), however even when gender roles were a thing they were tied so closely to biological sex the distinction seems almost non-existent
If gender truly is one's role in society rather than their biological sex it would seem gender is becoming an outdated concept, we no longer define roles by gender, we don't call a female mechanic a man nor do we call a stay at home dad a woman, of course we still have our stigmas and stereotypes but largely gender constructs are becoming less of a thing.
However in a universe like Dragon Age where gender roles aren't a thing where does Krem fit into the picture?
I don't think transgenderism is about gender roles cause that would mean that tomboys would be transmales and feminine men would be transwomen. I'm quite tomboyish myself, but I'm still girl ^^ I don't often like social roles and stereotypes that comes with it and are excepted of me, but that doesn't change my gender.
What I have observed is that many transgender, not everyone though, experiences body dysmorphia, discomfort or even disgust towards their male or female parts. So I'd say that it can be one aspect of being trans. However I can't really say for sure since I'm not trans and I don't know what it feels like being born in body that doesn't feel yours. I think the sites that others linked probaply do that better than I ever could.
The distinction between gender and sex was stated earlier in this conversation already. Sex is biological, but gender is how you feel- how you perceive yourself as. Gender is not only a reflection of your societal role or stereotype- it is what you identify as, not as society defines you as. Naturally, we can have a long conversation about how societal values influence our development of sense of self, as we do not live in the vacuum, but it is not the societal pressure only, that makes person feeling that his/her body does not reflect the reality. Definition of what being a man or a woman is, is artificial, but its implications are very real - particularly to us, who feel disconnected their biological expression.
To me it is a the feel of belonging with the other gender, my values and behavioral patterns are reflected all around me in members of one gender, but not in the other. My way of thinking and seeing the world has always been more suitable on sports pitch with opposite sex than my own as I lack certain behavioral patterns that in reality make up the difference between women's team ambiance and men's team ambiance in team sports (there is a huge difference) .
I do not get along very well in social situations with members of my sex, due to my lack of ..approval.. of ways of dealing with things. I would rather solve problems in a way, that others of my own sex would not again understand, but members of the opposite sex would perceive as "logical". And there has never been a "switch" to make it so, the disconnect has always been there.
Gender roles can be perceived as artificial, but at the same time categorization and tagging is often needed in human experience in understanding. Personally I am not sure it makes it easier to understand- I find it more useful to hold on to the terminology, even as a consequence though it is an excellent tool for applying negative attitudes towards "them".
This doesn't feel like an accurate description of gender to me. I'm a woman and I identify as a women. I also like sports, but I think that thinking "logically" is much more of a stereotype. In other words, I don't identify as male because I prefer reason over emotion or because I like sports and can explain what the infield fly rule is.
This doesn't feel like an accurate description of gender to me. I'm a woman and I identify as a women. I also like sports, but I think that thinking "logically" is much more of a stereotype. In other words, I don't identify as male because I prefer reason over emotion or because I like sports and can explain what the infield fly rule is.
I am not sure you understood the point though. It was not about defining gender- but about the gender disconnect within transgender from personal point of view. "Logical" did not mean logical (Rest in Peace Leonard Nimoy), but more like perceived reasonable course of action. Nor did my writing have anything to do with girls/boys liking sports, nor using such things to identify general gender. It had to do with the question that was asked by one of the posters "what does it feel like to be in the wrong body?"
I am not sure you understood the point though. It was not about defining gender- but about the gender disconnect within transgender from personal point of view. "Logical" did not mean logical (Rest in Peace Leonard Nimoy), but more like perceived reasonable course of action. Nor did my writing have anything to do with girls/boys liking sports, nor using such things to identify general gender. It had to do with the question that was asked by one of the posters "what does it feel like to be in the wrong body?"
No, I didn't understand the point, but I also don't know what it has to do with feeling like you're in the wrong body. I mean, you used behavior patterns with regard to playing sports and a type of reasoning in your example, neither of which have much to do with gender.
Yeah Krem
I wish they could have given more insight of the character aside from the TRASGENDER CHARACTER STAMP he had
I usually think there is more of people aside their orientation or what they identify with
Is there such a thing as agendered? As in, someone who doesn't self identify with either gender? We certainly have asexuals, so why not agendered people?
No, I didn't understand the point, but I also don't know what it has to do with feeling like you're in the wrong body. I mean, you used behavior patterns with regard to playing sports and a type of reasoning in your example, neither of which have much to do with gender.
This has nothing to do with act of sports per se, but dynamics of the teams, which are built on people of different sexes/genders. Sport was only means of explaining the difference between belonging and not belonging - similar clusters of interpersonal dynamics can be found all across life, sport was just convenient example.
Contributing to the dynamics or despising it, is a big part of team sports or any social occasion - it is a matter of belonging, and to that you can relate, you perceive as "you". Even though gender is not purely social construct, some of it mirrors from those around us through sense of belonging. Gender is the comfort blanket you have- whatever it is, it serves a function. Mine is what it is.Yours is what it is. This thread was about understanding. In fairness I regret contributing to this particular can of worms as trying to explain your views of a personal preference/experience/self is always doomed to trip on lack of vocabulary.
And line_genrou : I agree really. I'm not too much of a fan of inclusion without substance.
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To me all this just makes it seem more logical to talk about "brain sex" and "body sex" and that "gender" is just a thing society makes up to assign people with roles. Given there's fairly significant evidence at this point that male and female brains do have differences and that those differences logically exist along some kind of spectrum, I think it makes perfect sense that one could have a "female" brain inside a male body, or vice versa. Actually considering there *is* a spectrum, it's probably not even accurate to talk about brains in terms of them being "male" and "female" but rather to just use those things to identify the poles of the spectrum. Makes me wonder if there *is* some kind of "brain sex scale" roughly analogous to the Kinsey scale. My instinctive hunch is that there is, but people don't like this because it's not neatly binary. I don't see why sex should neatly fit into a binary breakdown when pretty much nothing else we know about the nature of mankind does. Anyway, so for these purposes:
"Body sex" has a fairly set definition with some rare exceptions - what chromosomes have you got? The answer to this question also seems to be largely irrelevant outside of discussions about a person's physical health or reproduction.
"Brain sex" is much harder to identify anatomically, but the simplest way to find out is probably just to ask people "what sex do you think/feel that you have?" much as the best way to find out where people fall on the Kinsey scale is just to ask them.
Both of these seem like highly innate (probably genetic or at least determined largely by prenatal environmental conditions) characteristics to me that don't seem to have much to do with gender. If they did you could get a transperson to change their "brain sex" just by forcing them to adhere to gender roles that society aligns with their "body sex," but we already know this doesn't work.
To me there's clearly a difference between whatever this "brain sex" sense of identity that 99% of people have and "gender" - which I just consider to be a bunch of fairly arbitrary rules society made up based on a very limited understanding of "brain sex" and its correlation with "body sex." It's about the best cavemen can manage to help police and legislate behavioral tendencies when they have no understanding of psychology or neuroscience.
Sorry if people don't like my terminology. I just made it up on the spot and was trying to use words that were precise and understandable. Also, I'm really not trying to make any point here. This is literally just me thinking aloud (or in type as it were).
Is there such a thing as agendered? As in, someone who doesn't self identify with either gender? We certainly have asexuals, so why not agendered people?
There is absolutely such a thing as being agendered, not identifying with any particular gender. There is also such a thing as being gender-queer or gender-fluid, which represent more of a mosaic gender identity rather than the absence of any. I'm no expert, but I've found that it's best to ask a person which pronouns they prefer and respect their answer... or to gracefully accept correction if I've accidentally used the wrong ones.
For the most part, gender identity matters only to the individual in question. Interpersonal relationships have little or nothing to do with the alignment between anatomical sex and mental/emotional gender identity.
Krem was born a woman that identifies as a man, so does that mean that Krem prefers to be romantic with women or men? I don't know Krem says anything about it in the game. Cool character though.
My first Inquisitor would have romanced her if she identified as a her.. Or well, I guess even though she didn't since she didn't want to magically change anything.. 
My first Inquisitor would have romanced her if she identified as a her.. Or well, I guess even though she didn't since she didn't want to magically change anything..
Krem's still a man, and as such, I really doubt he'd like to date someone who would insist on seeing him as a woman.
One of the dialogue options when speaking with Krem is to ask if she would fully change physically to being a man if magic allowed her to do so. She said no. Therefore, she is isn't a man. She is a woman wanting to behave/dress like a man. You can argue semantics on cultural/racial perception of proper behavior for "sex" or "gender" all you like, but it makes no difference in the end.
Krem's still a man, and as such, I really doubt he'd like to date someone who would insist on seeing him as a woman.
Also, if your Inquisitor is someone who wishes to be in a relationship with another person who has no disconnect with his/her biological sex, then Krem is not the one for your Inquisitor. That's just heartbreak and pain waiting to happen.
It's the one problem I've always had with people who are transgender is how they fit into the dating scene. As far as I'm concerned, they can live whatever lives they want to live. It's not my place to make any judgements on their private lives. I honestly don't care in most cases. The only way that it is likely to become my business is if I date someone who is transgendered. I've heard stories about people who didn't realize they were dating a transgendered person until the third-fourth date, or even later. That always feels really wrong, to me. Kind of like a brand of false advertising. I admit that if I found out a girl I was dating had been born a guy and had not told me, I'd be pretty disgusted and upset. That just seems like something one should be upfront about from very early in a relationship.
Maybe that makes me close-minded. It just feels like something that becomes your business once you start dating a person. For instance if Dorian and Krem became an item, I imagine Krem would be pretty upfront with him about what he's going to run into once the clothes come off. And if Dorian isn't ok with that(given his orientation, he might not be), then it's fair game to walk away no harm no foul.
The best part about Krem's story is hand-down how Qunari deal with gender issues. It makes Sten's whole "You fight. It must follow that you cannot be a woman!" schtick in DA:O make a WHOLE lot more sense in hindsight. I am really curious about whether or not Bioware planned that ahead of time. I'm leaning towards a 'yes', but I'm not sure.
One of the dialogue options when speaking with Krem is to ask if she would fully change physically to being a man if magic allowed her to do so. She said no. Therefore, she is isn't a man. She is a woman wanting to behave/dress like a man. You can argue semantics on cultural/racial perception of proper behavior for "sex" or "gender" all you like, but it makes no difference in the end.
Psychology says you're wrong. There's a difference between sex and gender, and they don't always match up. Krem is a male whose genitalia is female. Insisting on calling him a she is just being a jerk.
Beyond this, though, I'm not going to argue further.
Also, if your Inquisitor is someone who wishes to be in a relationship with another person who has no disconnect with his/her biological sex, then Krem is not the one for your Inquisitor. That's just heartbreak and pain waiting to happen.
It's the one problem I've always had with people who are transgender is how they fit into the dating scene. As far as I'm concerned, they can live whatever lives they want to live. It's not my place to make any judgements on their private lives. I honestly don't care in most cases. The only way that it is likely to become my business is if I date someone who is transgendered. I've heard stories about people who didn't realize they were dating a transgendered person until the third-fourth date, or even later. That always feels really wrong, to me. Kind of like a brand of false advertising. I admit that if I found out a girl I was dating had been born a guy and had not told me, I'd be pretty disgusted and upset. That just seems like something one should be upfront about from very early in a relationship.
Maybe that makes me close-minded. It just feels like something that becomes your business once you start dating a person. For instance if Dorian and Krem became an item, I imagine Krem would be pretty upfront with him about what he's going to run into once the clothes come off. And if Dorian isn't ok with that(given his orientation, he might not be), then it's fair game to walk away no harm no foul.
The best part about Krem's story is hand-down how Qunari deal with gender issues. It makes Sten's whole "You fight. It must follow that you cannot be a woman!" schtick in DA:O make a WHOLE lot more sense in hindsight. I am really curious about whether or not Bioware planned that ahead of time. I'm leaning towards a 'yes', but I'm not sure.
It's a difficult thing all around. There's nothing wrong with only being attracted to people whose gender lines up with their biology. You can't help physical attraction any more than you can help what your gender is, and physical attraction is important in a relationship.
As for how and when someone should tell the person they're dating that they're transgender, it's difficult to say, though in many cases I do think it's a conversation that should be had. Beyond that, I don't really think I have the right to speak further, since I'm not transgender, and I lack a woeful amount of insight into how such things should be handled.
I swear, every time I see thread's title, I keep reading it in The Iron Bull's voice.
I swear, every time I see thread's title, I keep reading it in The Iron Bull's voice.
When I read it, it sounds like the title an after-school sitcom.
When I read it, it sounds like the title an after-school sitcom.
You mean like... That's So Raven, or something?
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