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[ThreeF]

  Every healthy man wishes to dominate.

Most healthy (as in well-adjusted) adult individuals do no bother themselves with such concepts and certainly not in the way you imply.

[KaiserShep]

The last thing some jokers on this forum should be talking about is what's healthy.

[Abraham_uk]

 

I'm sad to hear it, it is truly unfortunate.

 

Looks like I was a little late in editing my post. Oh well. That was embarrassing. I'll give myself a face palm for this.

[o Ventus]

Great many writers do it, from movies through comics to tv series. I'm sure they would be ok with this, unless they have better job views on the future.

 

Uhh, no. No, no they don't.

 

 

There is no gratification in exercising power over women, especially wives. At least it is below me. For such joys I would see to suggest slave companion. Of course that I'm not interested in the relationship itself but the profits coming from it. That is what arranged marriage is for.

 

Are you seriously advocating slave trafficking in some fashion? How are you not banned and on a police watch list?

 

Do you get angry at stray dog when it barks at you?

 

No, because I'm not a psychopath.

 

Every healthy man wishes to dominate.

 

As a healthy man, I have no desire to dominate.

[Captain Wiseass]

Are you seriously advocating slave trafficking in some fashion? How are you not banned and on a police watch list?

 

Nah, he's talking about kids. His ideal partner isn't just a sex slave, she's a brood mare.

[DirkJake]

The thing here is, people are just going to have to deal with homosexuality. I'd go way farther if I were Bioware, I would shove the gay down your throat with hypersexual gay men aggesively trying to get it on with the male PC.

But that probably wouldn't do well for sales

 

I, for one, am willing to buy the game and get "shoved" in this way. 

[Scofield]

[o Ventus]

Nah, he's talking about kids. His ideal partner isn't just a sex slave, she's a brood mare.

 

That's.... Better? I misconstrued the use of the word "profit", but in no way is this actually a better scenario.

 

At least in slave trafficking, the slave will be sold off so as to be away from him.

 

But then I remember that 50 Shades of Grey is a real thing, written by a real person, and it describes all of the same things as Surinen (though I don't think 'brood mare' is one of them, that's unique to him).

[Lord Surinen]

Bring back those goalposts, the special teams unit wants to kick a field goal.

 

No writer has ever made a different version of their story or characters on a fan's say so. And they never will.

 

Or, in other words... LYING.

I assume that you are not familiar with japanese animation. They make separate stories arcs if the popular demand is high enough.

 

I guess that police is not interested in the fictional slaves, otherwise, great many players of TW would be on it(list, that is).

 

Most healthy (as in well-adjusted) adult individuals do no bother themselves with such concepts and certainly not in the way you imply.

Quite the opposite.

 

Uhh, no. No, no they don't.

 

 

 

 

 

Are you seriously advocating slave trafficking in some fashion? How are you not banned and on a police watch list?

 

 

 

 

No, because I'm not a psychopath.

 

 

 

 

As a healthy man, I have no desire to dominate.

Yes, they do

 

No, I'm not. Arranged marriage is not about slave trafficking. What  slave is good for in arranged marriage?

 

I always encourage to perform periodic health examinations, it is important to check hormones too.

[Captain Wiseass]

That's.... Better? I misconstrued the use of the word "profit", but in no way is this actually a better scenario.

 

No, it is not. Just clarifying for you the particular way in which he is terrible.

[Abraham_uk]

Most healthy (as in well-adjusted) adult individuals do no bother themselves with such concepts and certainly not in the way you imply.

 

Funny how this guy is dominating this thread at the moment.

Don't get me wrong. I disagree with everything he's said so far.

[o Ventus]

Yes, they do

 

They really don't. Stephen King doesn't change his novels to accommodate each readers' own tastes.

 

What  slave is good for in arranged marriage?

 

I'll answer this as soon as you present the question in a halfway intelligible manner.

 

I always encourage to perform periodic health examinations, it is important to check hormones too.

 

I'm going to guess that you have some kind of schizophrenia, the way you derailed your own post into a tangent about nothing with this non-sequitur.

[Abraham_uk]

 

Salt is what my sauce needs! How come there isn't any salt on this dinner table?

[Grieving Natashina]

A little remix of Dancing Mad, anyone?  This thread needs a soundtrack:

 

[o Ventus]

Funny how this guy is dominating this thread at the moment.

Don't get me wrong. I disagree with everything he's said so far.

Define "dominating".

 

Because I would hardly say he's dominating anything when literally everyone else thinks he's wrong and/or insane. Everyone who's chimed in on the matter, anyway.

[papercut_ninja]

I got "females are better students than males". Am I doing this wrong somehow

 

You´ll get different suggestions based on your internet history, location and settings...

[Vanth]

This is not only wrong, but hilariously wrong.

Can you provide evidence of your claim?

[o Ventus]

Can you provide evidence of your claim?

You were the one who made a claim when you said that everyone is bisexual, so the burden of proof is on you.

 

I mean, the fact that people can be homosexual or asexual proves you wrong, but I'll humor you and wait for proof.

[AresKeith]

Can you provide evidence of your claim?

Can you? Since you made the false claim in the first place?

[TBJack]

No. Only the playground has changed. Men still wishes to dominate, just exercise it in different manners on different levels. Doing something for others very often offer a gratification. There is nothing primitive about domination, especially considering that it very often requires a quite sophisticated approach. If anything, then altruism in its pure, that is theoretical form is nothing more than mental disorder.

 

Yes, people do still have the urge to dominate.  Like I said, many of us (though obviously not enough) are capable of rising above it.

 

As for it "requiring a sophisticated approach" that is irrelevant, not to mention untrue.  Physical and emotional abuse range from the very simple to extremely complex.  Neither one is something to be proud of.

 

Yes, domination is a primitive urge.  It is a purely animal drive, and while it helped us slog out of the swamps, it has outlived it's usefulness.  At least in the form we're discussing.

 

"Pure" altruism isn't at issue here.  Working as part of a group instead of attempting to control it benefits the whole group.  Including yourself.  Putting the needs of others above yourself is what leads to progress.  The fact that you are more interested in control than cooperation makes it quite clear that if nothing else, you lack a natural empathy for your fellow beings.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I don't think that's the same thing at all. A character having a sexual orientation independent of the player doesn't mean they can't have romantic inclinations (to only feel attraction after developing a close personal bond) exactly the way you describe them. As I know you're fully aware, what you're describing is sometimes called "demisexual" (please, by the Maker guys, lets not get into a debate about the validity of that term), and that is defined as a sexual orientation itself.

Yes, I know. And back when the characters were sexually ambiguous, there was a character that matched that. But then Gaider had to show up and shoot that down by saying they are all bisexual. 

[Fiery Phoenix]

Yes, I know. And back when the characters were sexually ambiguous, there was a character that matched that. But then Gaider had to show up and shoot that down by saying they are all bisexual. 

It's almost as if he took a step back and changed his initial stance (i.e. for the characters to be sexually ambiguous). I don't know what led him to do so as I specifically remember him saying on multiple occasions that he wanted their sexual orientations to be left up for interpretation back in 2011/2012. But I do like that it's been confirmed finally.

[Dai Grepher]

Plenty of anime did it and well in some way you can say that DA2 with brother and sister follow up, is also offering a different approach. Unfortunately I can't name them, but alternatives happen in media. Hm, no, I don't remember after all. People responsible for DA writing are not some 'great writers' but hired folk to make the hamburger. It is a game after all, it does not take as much time as book for that matter.

 

Actually I think Krem is the prime example of this. A certain segment of the fanbase complained about Serendipity and demanded a respectable transgender character, and got Krem. In fact, I think Weeks even said that he had a rough draft of Krem that he ran by a transgender fan for guidance and received a bunch of criticism back, which led to the necessary alterations. So yeah, Krem.

 

Also, I think Legend of Korra may have done this, as well as Naruto Shippuden, but I'm not certain about those. Thought that would be regarding pairings.
 

[Abraham_uk]

Define "dominating".

 

Because I would hardly say he's dominating anything when literally everyone else thinks he's wrong and/or insane. Everyone who's chimed in on the matter, anyway.

 

In the context of that post I made, I meant getting most of the attention. At the time I made that post, such was the case.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

It's almost as if he took a step back and changed his initial istance (i.e. for the characters to be sexually ambiguous). I don't know what led him to do so as I specifically remember him saying on multiple occasions that he wanted them to left up for interpretation back in 2011/2012. But I do like that it's been confirmed finally.

Cause he wanted to be perceived as someone who doesn't advocate bisexual erasure, which is an admirable goal. But he just did the same thing to other orientations to do that.