Can you? Since you made the false claim in the first place?
Or he's a deeply closeted homosexual.
Actually, if he doesn't KNOW it's a man doing it, then his reaction says nothing about his sexuality, other than he likes blowjobs. Which, join the club, it's called all men.
Your thought experiment wouldn't pass muster in a Philosophy 101 class.
Also, you just (perhaps inadvertently) made the "the rape victim wanted it" argument. Ten demerits, and go stand in the corner and think about what you've done.
Not directly (since it is a bit difficult on a forum) but we can have a thought experiment.
Imagine taking a self claime "straight" guy. Strip him and sit him on a chair. Put a blindfold on him. Now bring in a gay man who then gives the straight man a ******. If the straight guy becomes sexually excited he isn't really straight but is really bi.
Simple.
So you can't provide actual proof, so you come up with this?
Trolls lately has been terrible
Not directly (since it is a bit difficult on a forum) but we can have a thought experiment.
Imagine taking a self claime "straight" guy. Strip him and sit him on a chair. Put a blindfold on him. Now bring in a gay man who then gives the straight man a ******. If the straight guy becomes sexually excited he isn't really straight but is really bi.
Simple.
So is everyone sexually attracted to their hands too since those can get them sexually excited?
They really don't. Stephen King doesn't change his novels to accommodate each readers' own tastes.
I'll answer this as soon as you present the question in a halfway intelligible manner.
I'm going to guess that you have some kind of schizophrenia, the way you derailed your own post into a tangent about nothing with this non-sequitur.
Games, tv series writers are not Stephen King. Do not compare McDonald with La Pulperia.
Then never,
A mystery then!
Yes, people do still have the urge to dominate. Like I said, many of us (though obviously not enough) are capable of rising above it.
As for it "requiring a sophisticated approach" that is irrelevant, not to mention untrue. Physical and emotional abuse range from the very simple to extremely complex. Neither one is something to be proud of.
Yes, domination is a primitive urge. It is a purely animal drive, and while it helped us slog out of the swamps, it has outlived it's usefulness. At least in the form we're discussing.
"Pure" altruism isn't at issue here. Working as part of a group instead of attempting to control it benefits the whole group. Including yourself. Putting the needs of others above yourself is what leads to progress. The fact that you are more interested in control than cooperation makes it quite clear that if nothing else, you lack a natural empathy for your fellow beings.
Abandonement of domination would be a terrific regress. People who rise above, rise above other people.
Like I have said, 'very often'. It is something to be proud of.
It is not primitive at all. It is still very much useful and required from the best of the best.
Domination does not prevent to work with the group, the outcome matters, final touch if you wish. No, again, it leads to regress. One shape the world around him in order to preserve himself and his offspring. If it requires building wells and schools then so be it. It is nothing more than gearing your companions. Cooperation is a tool, it has its use in the advancement of ones ambitions. Empathy is a biggest sin of all. Good to steer the masses, bad to move a single pawn.
By the left eye of Odin...
We don't need this "everyone is bi and doesn't know it" fallacy going on here. I know that there are lesbians that are sick of hearing that. "You just need the right man," or "You're really only into girls to make men jealous." I've also seen that short of mentality lead to lesbian women and gay men getting targeted for "correction" by groups of men and/or by women. Yes, it happens to gay men as well, from women.
Tying down and blindfolding a man, then forcing him to have oral sex preformed on him isn't proving bisexuality. I think we know what the word is for that. And as a man, sometimes getting turned on means squat. You can look it up; men don't have to be mentally or physically turned on to have their sexuality aroused. Depending upon the circumstance, a warm breeze on a cool day can do it. Are those men suddenly wind-sexuals?
This is a toxic and dangerous line of thinking, almost worse than a certain poster's slashfic that he wants BioWare to implement in the games as canon. I know the thread is a trainwreck, but would you guys please drop that line of thinking?
So you can't provide actual proof, so you come up with this?
Trolls lately has been terrible
Games, tv series writers are not Stephen King. Do not compare McDonald with La Pulperia.
Then never,
A mystery then!
Abandonement of domination would be a terrific regress. People who rise above, rise above other people.
Like I have said, 'very often'. It is something to be proud of.
It is not primitive at all. It is still very much useful and required from the best of the best.
Domination does not prevent to work with the group, the outcome matters, final touch if you wish. No, again, it leads to regress. One shape the world around him in order to preserve himself and his offspring. If it requires building wells and schools then so be it. It is nothing more than gearing your companions. Cooperation is a tool, it has its use in the advancement of ones ambitions. Empathy is a biggest sin of all. Good to steer the masses, bad to move a single pawn.
This has to be a gimmick, right?
Right?
By the left eye of Odin...
We don't need this "everyone is bi and doesn't know it" fallacy going on here. I know that there are lesbians that are sick of hearing that. "You just need the right man," or "You're really only into girls to make men jealous." I've also seen that short of mentality lead to lesbian women and gay men getting targeted for "correction" by groups of men and/or by women. Yes, it happens to gay men as well, from women.
This is a toxic and dangerous line of thinking, almost worse than a certain poster's slashfic that he wants BioWare to implement in the games as canon. I know the thread is a trainwreck, but would you guys please drop that line of thinking?
/signed
This has to be a gimmick, right?
Right?
You'd be surprised. Dismayed, probably, too.
Quite the opposite.
a splendid argument.
Funny how this guy is dominating this thread at the moment.
He does? In what way? He is definitely basking being the center of attention, but that's about it.
Yes, people do still have the urge to dominate. Like I said, many of us (though obviously not enough) are capable of rising above it.
As for it "requiring a sophisticated approach" that is irrelevant, not to mention untrue. Physical and emotional abuse range from the very simple to extremely complex. Neither one is something to be proud of.
Yes, domination is a primitive urge. It is a purely animal drive, and while it helped us slog out of the swamps, it has outlived it's usefulness. At least in the form we're discussing.
"Pure" altruism isn't at issue here. Working as part of a group instead of attempting to control it benefits the whole group. Including yourself. Putting the needs of others above yourself is what leads to progress. The fact that you are more interested in control than cooperation makes it quite clear that if nothing else, you lack a natural empathy for your fellow beings.
Sexual domination aside (which is a complicated beast and has many sides), domination is primary about something very basic and it's called "fear" which is disguised into "need to control". People who have sort this out and are confident in themselves and their abilities are capable to exist and achieve great things without such need.
Lots of 
worthy comments tonight it seems
By the left eye of Odin...
We don't need this "everyone is bi and doesn't know it" fallacy going on here. I know that there are lesbians that are sick of hearing that. "You just need the right man," or "You're really only into girls to make men jealous." I've also seen that short of mentality lead to lesbian women and gay men getting targeted for "correction" by groups of men and/or by women. Yes, it happens to gay men as well, from women.
Tying down and blind folding a man, then forcing him to have oral sex preformed on him isn't proving bisexuality. I think we know what the word is for that. And getting turned on means squat. You can look it up; men don't have to be mentally turned on to have their sexuality aroused. Depending upon the circumstance, a warm breeze on a cool day can do it. Are those men suddenly wind-sexuals?
This is a toxic and dangerous line of thinking, almost worse than a certain poster's slashfic that he wants BioWare to implement in the games as canon. I know the thread is a trainwreck, but would you guys please drop that line of thinking?
I challenge you to find a (healthy) man who wouldn't get hard.
I think by proof they're asking for quotations of journals in complete Harvard Referencing.
[Because this is what we love to do on forums. Harvard Referencing journal entries].
By the left eye of Odin...
We don't need this "everyone is bi and doesn't know it" fallacy going on here. I know that there are lesbians that are sick of hearing that. "You just need the right man," or "You're really only into girls to make men jealous." I've also seen that short of mentality lead to lesbian women and gay men getting targeted for "correction" by groups of men and/or by women. Yes, it happens to gay men as well, from women.
Tying down and blind folding a man, then forcing him to have oral sex preformed on him isn't proving bisexuality. I think we know what the word is for that. And as a man, sometimes getting turned on means squat. You can look it up; men don't have to be mentally turned on to have their sexuality aroused. Depending upon the circumstance, a warm breeze on a cool day can do it. Are those men suddenly wind-sexuals?
This is a toxic and dangerous line of thinking, almost worse than a certain poster's slashfic that he wants BioWare to implement in the games as canon. I know the thread is a trainwreck, but would you guys please drop that line of thinking?
I'm honestly surprised Bioware attracts these people to their games
And how some of them aren't banned yet
Maybe you are just narrow minded and sexually closed. Come on, lighten up a bit!
Okay, now I'm beginning to think you're a troll. I don't need to lighten up. I'm requesting that you drop this line of conversation, please.
Here's something you might understand: That kind of thinking and mentality leads to gay men and lesbians getting targeted for corrective rape. I didn't think I'd have spell it out for you. I think it's counter-productive in general and has no place on the forums.
May we please switch to something else within the topic?
Not directly (since it is a bit difficult on a forum) but we can have a thought experiment.
Imagine taking a self claime "straight" guy. Strip him and sit him on a chair. Put a blindfold on him. Now bring in a gay man who then gives the straight man a ******. If the straight guy becomes sexually excited he isn't really straight but is really bi.
Simple.
That is just an example of nerve endings responding to physical stimuli. It proves nothing about sexual preference, which is based on thought process.
I think your stance can be disproved by threatening to kill someone unless they perform homosexual sex. In the cases of most heterosexual men, we would rather die than engage in homosexuality. Which proves everyone is not bisexual. An even if some males would engage in it under duress, they could always claim they only did it to save their own lives, not because they wanted to.
Sweet coke-snorting Moses. This thread is dynamite, I tell ya what.
a splendid argument.
He does? In what way? He is definitely basking being the center of attention, but that's about it.
Sexual domination aside (which is a complicated beast and has many sides), domination is primary about something very basic and it's called "fear" which is disguised into "need to control". People who have sort this out and are confident in themselves and their abilities are capable to exist and achieve great things without such need.
Almost as splendid as yours. I'm getting better at being a forumite.
This video sums up this thread quite nicely.
Don't worry. This isn't an actual car crash.
Maybe you are just narrow minded and sexually closed. Come on, lighten up a bit!
Says the person who claims they were violated by Cass.
Keep stirring, eventually you'll get tired.
Yes, people do still have the urge to dominate. Like I said, many of us (though obviously not enough) are capable of rising above it.
As for it "requiring a sophisticated approach" that is irrelevant, not to mention untrue. Physical and emotional abuse range from the very simple to extremely complex. Neither one is something to be proud of.
Yes, domination is a primitive urge. It is a purely animal drive, and while it helped us slog out of the swamps, it has outlived it's usefulness. At least in the form we're discussing.
"Pure" altruism isn't at issue here. Working as part of a group instead of attempting to control it benefits the whole group. Including yourself. Putting the needs of others above yourself is what leads to progress. The fact that you are more interested in control than cooperation makes it quite clear that if nothing else, you lack a natural empathy for your fellow beings.
yet you're still trying to win over him in this argument, in other words dominate over him psychically. Which kinda proves him right. But I think you two have different understanding of the word "dominate".
yet you're still trying to win over him in this argument, in other words dominate over him psychically. Which kinda proves him right. But I think you two have different understanding of the word "dominate".
SMH
Almost as splendid as yours. I'm getting better at being a forumite.
ah...and there i went in all the trouble to expand (in two whole lines) even if you had no argument besides "no, it is not".
Abandonement of domination would be a terrific regress. People who rise above, rise above other people.
Like I have said, 'very often'. It is something to be proud of.
It is not primitive at all. It is still very much useful and required from the best of the best.
Domination does not prevent to work with the group, the outcome matters, final touch if you wish. No, again, it leads to regress. One shape the world around him in order to preserve himself and his offspring. If it requires building wells and schools then so be it. It is nothing more than gearing your companions. Cooperation is a tool, it has its use in the advancement of ones ambitions. Empathy is a biggest sin of all. Good to steer the masses, bad to move a single pawn.
You do realise that everything you'd just said there is pretty much the textbook definition of what consistutes a psychopath?
Seriously, boldness, the demand for one's own gratification, considering others to be tools to be exploited and the complete dismissal of empathy altogether are all kinda big red flags here...?
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