So. What have we learnt from this thread?
That some people would go through great lengths to avoid seeing gay characters in their games.
Or that some people insist that they know me better than myself because everyone is bisexual, and I can't possibly be gay.
Or that having erection because of a thing must mean that I am sexually attracted to that thing.
Or that some are just anti-LGBT, and it is fruitless to talk to them.
WTF is happening in this thread right now.... 
Yes, please, I would like it. If there are toggle gore options in some games, then for such content like this it should be even more present.
Why bother? Wouldn't it be highly offensive to LGBT's?
one thing is saying that s/he's wrong, other is pretending that what s/he said makes no sense. Bear in mind not everyone here speaks English flawlessly. But if you do that on purpose it's classified as trolling
I never said or pretended that what they said didn't make sense (it doesn't, but I never said it). I do think it's irredeemably stupid and dangerous though.
WTF is happening in this thread right now....
No clue. I know I've said my piece for the moment. Coffee or tea hun?
Funny, since your evidence of proving bisexuality was a case of something that can only be called rape.
That some people would go through great lengths to avoid seeing gay characters in their games.
Or that some people insist that they know me better than myself because everyone is bisexual, and I can't possibly be gay.
Or that having erection because of a thing must mean that I am sexually attracted to that thing.
Or that some are just anti-LGBT, and it is fruitless to talk to them.
A-ha! You might think you're gay, but if I blindfolded you and tied you to a chair...
*sigh* another moron.
now you're insulting people for proving you wrong
(to Vanth) I see it more as a case of a involuntary response to stimuli. You needn't be looking at anything or thinking of anything for that to happen. It is your body responding. Attraction would be looking at or thinking of someone or something and doing so would trigger the response.
Wauw, it moved a page while I was writing.
That some people would go through great lengths to avoid seeing gay characters in their games.
Or that some people insist that they know me better than myself because everyone is bisexual, and I can't possibly be gay.
Or that having erection because of a thing must mean that I am sexually attracted to that thing.
Or that some are just anti-LGBT, and it is fruitless to talk to them.
These are very sad lessons for anyone to learn. On the positive side, that is a cute profile picture.
I am staggered that so many people on this forum don't know what rape is. What a sad statement about modern society that is.
In my example there was never any implication that consent hadn't been obtained.
Because "tie a straight guy to a chair and blindfold him" implies that he agreed to it.
I'm not even convinced you're trolling at this point, because trolls know when to call it quits. I think you might actually be an idiot.
Plenty of anime did it and well in some way you can say that DA2 with brother and sister follow up, is also offering a different approach. Unfortunately I can't name them, but alternatives happen in media. Hm, no, I don't remember after all. People responsible for DA writing are not some 'great writers' but hired folk to make the hamburger. It is a game after all, it does not take as much time as book for that matter.
We'll just have to agree to disagree about most of this. I'd call the different story options in DA2 just that: different options within the same story.
Also, I don't see the perceived quality of a writer/writing team as effecting whether or not they're entitled or subject to integrity regarding their craft.
I am staggered that so many people on this forum don't know what rape is. What a sad statement about modern society that is.
In my example there was never any implication that consent hadn't been obtained.
Your example was take a man, sit him in a chair and strip him naked then blindfold him, then have another man give him oral sex. The man in your example did not consent to a man giving him oral sex. In fact, he had to be blindfolded to not say anything. That is a textbook definition of rape by deception.
No, disagreeing with someone is not attempting to dominate them, psychically or otherwise. Domination is putting someone or something in a position where you have power over them and then using that power as a means of control. Even if I were to convince him that I were correct, that would mean that we agreed, not that I had any form of power over him.
As for our understanding of the word dominate, as far as I can tell we more or less agree on the definition, we simply disagree on the concept's application.
Also, although I don't think you meant any insult, I don't appreciate having my disagreeing with him compared to his assertions that the subjugation of another human being is to be lauded.
if you convince someone of your truth, you force your thoughts on him/her. You may call it whatever you want, but it's a fact. S/he had his thought, you show more logical/more accurate... arguments, your mind is dominate thus you applied your psychical domination in the discussion. And it's not a bad thing... What I think you're talking about is physical domination which is considered a bad thing in most cultured societies.
Except that domination of others is, by it's very nature, an unhealthy attitude.
While there's nothing wrong with being a psychopath and many psychopathinc individuals function within society with no problems whatsoever, to the point they're not even recognised as having the disorder, it is nonetheless a concern when those who lie on more extreme end of the bell-curve, who's symptoms and delusions of grandeur can interfere in both their own mental health, well-being and the well-being of others?
As for your point about offspring... well, I'm not going to bring children into this because otherwise we might end up offending people? Best avoid that, as we've already got more than enough being discussed already, eh?
It is not only healthy but also required from men. Two ways; to dominate and to know your betters.
Fictional offspring.
Why bother? Wouldn't it be highly offensive to LGBT's?
Because some, maybe great many of us would like to play our games without forced agendas. Professional victims will always find something to be offended with.
We'll just have to agree to disagree about most of this. I'd call the different story options in DA2 just that: different options within the same story.
Also, I don't see the perceived quality of a writer/writing team as effecting whether or not they're entitled or subject to integrity regarding their craft.
It is not their craft, it belongs to BioWare. They craft what is required from them. Then maybe instead of toggable non straight, w should ask for different options within the same story. An option to completely eliminate non straight characters if we choose one of these options, and replace with straight ones.
nothing.
I've already said it, it's under the TBJack's quote in the same post that was addressed to you (which you quoted),
Ah that bit.
A shocking disturbing discussion we have here.
Wow. This is quite a masterpiece of sorts.
I haven't encountered a thread quite as messed up as this and I've been on these forums for years.
A-ha! You might think you're gay, but if I blindfolded you and tied you to a chair...
Are you suggesting I am chair-sexual or blindfolded-sexual? 
(the latter might be the case, the former depends on how soft the chair is.)
These are very sad lessons for anyone to learn. On the positive side, that is a cute profile picture.
I want to like your post (because sloths are cute), but this thread has exhausted my likes.
You have never used a blindfold for sex?
Well, I have never had sex period.
But I am sure that everyone who has worn a blindfold during sex knew who they would be having sex with. If they did not know, then they were not consenting thus is nonconsensual sex. The person in your example didn't even know there was going to be sex, let alone who with, so did not consent.
Are you suggesting I am chair-sexual or blindfolded-sexual?
I want to like your post (because sloths are cute), but this thread has exhausted my likes.
I'm in the same boat here. I've liked as many sensible posts as I can.
You have never used a blindfold for sex?
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Or move the goalposts entirely and fail to even acknowledge the prior responses.
I am staggered that so many people on this forum don't know what rape is. What a sad statement about modern society that is.
In my example there was never any implication that consent hadn't been obtained.
The problem with your "Cassandra raped me" assessment is that while you didn't have a last minute opportunity to officially offer consent, your Inquisitor consented by virtue of being an active and willing participant. There are certain things you can't impose upon the PC in game. They can't go around murder-knifing people, they can't actually choose to serve Coypheus instead of combatting him, and they won't phrase everything exactly the way you want them to. At that point in the story, you had pursued this relationship to a romance scene, and the Inquisitor participates in this scene.
There are similar problems here. In this case, autonomy has actually been taken away from the subject of your example.
You have never used a blindfold for sex?
You have tied your partner, blindfolded them and then without explaining anything brought someone else to have sex with them? This comes from the same person who not that long ago was yelling "rape" because there were no clear options to say no to Cassandra every step on the way in the romance? Something is missing in this picture....oh yes! the pot!
this is going to be good
Thing is we're almost reaching 40 pages and still no lockdown.
If this image were accurate, he'd have no trouble casually strolling into the building.
The problem with your "Cassandra raped me" assessment is that while you didn't have a last minute opportunity to officially offer consent, your Inquisitor consented by virtue of being an active and willing participant. There are certain things you can't impose upon the PC in game. They can't go around murder-knifing people, they can't actually choose to serve Coypheus instead of combatting him, and they won't phrase everything exactly the way you want them to. At that point in the story, you had pursued this relationship to a romance scene, and the Inquisitor participates in this scene.
One would think the text blurb stating "Pursue a romance with Cassandra" when beginning the romance would be enough of a heads-up, but apparently not.
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