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[Xilizhra]

I think everyone can agree that the southern Andrastian human perspective has been thoroughly explored in the past three games, yes? And it occurred to me that, while the general perspective of elves would be at least as interesting to follow as that of any other faction, elven culture isn't as assimilationist as Andrastianism, so being able to have a game that would focus on this would require that we play as an elf. Which I don't think is beyond Bioware's design philosophy, as DA2 was monoracial and DAI almost was; being an elf would also avoid some of the problems of DAI's attempted monoracialism, as it's not just a repeat of previous games.

 

I can see a game where the overall conflict of the PC's arc is between siding with the elves and the Tevinter Imperium, similar to how DA2 had the mages vs. templars arc. The qunari would probably be everyone's antagonists.

[Addai]

People like their boring human nobles for some reason and Bioware has to market to the mainstream. As long as we can play something else, the default can continue to be whitebread dull guy as far as I'm concerned.

[jlb524]

Would be nice but not going to happen.

There's no way they would remove the human as an option.

[WildOrchid]

Yeah, sure. After 1000 more years, when the gaming world will stop using a human dude as default in everything.

[Kondorr]

Theoretically they still can have a game with the option to play human noble, but exiled to the Elves... so the OPs story can kinda be forced into a multiracial game. But the character would have to have a forced elven background. 

[TK514]

Won't happen.

[Lorien19]

Can't say that I don't agree with the OP,especially if the fourth instalment takes place in the Northern part of Thedas as it's speculated to be.But I will also agree with Addai.

 

Unless the developers decided to make a spin off of the series that takes place in Arlathan,I can't see the canon protagonist being an elf a la Hawke.

[Fiery Phoenix]

That honestly sounds like wishful thinking to me, Xil. I think it's a cool idea, just not that high up the plausibility ladder.

[Xilizhra]

Would be nice but not going to happen.

There's no way they would remove the human as an option.

Didn't we used to think that they'd never give us romantic equality either? Bioware's clearly capable of surprising us.

[daveliam]

I'm 100% against the idea of a required single race for the PC in DA games.  But, if it were to go single race, elves would be my 3rd pick out of 4 races.  A Tal-Vashoth or Ambassadoria dwarf could just as easily fit into a Tevinter setting and offer a unique perspective.  That being said, it's all a moot point because if they did go back to a single race, it would be humans <yawn>.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Didn't we used to think that they'd never give us romantic equality either? Bioware's clearly capable of surprising us.

It's not really the same thing, though. A protagonist is a major central point of a given story, one that the player is meant to connect with in some form. Romance, on the other hand, is an optional bonus which gives it much more flexibility in practice.

[ComedicSociopathy]

Doubt it.

 

People want to play their dwarves, qunari and humans. 

[Xilizhra]

I'm 100% against the idea of a required single race for the PC in DA games.  But, if it were to go single race, elves would be my 3rd pick out of 4 races.  A Tal-Vashoth or Ambassadoria dwarf could just as easily fit into a Tevinter setting and offer a unique perspective.  That being said, it's all a moot point because if they did go back to a single race, it would be humans <yawn>.

Dwarves wouldn't work at all, they only have two classes.

 

 

It's not really the same thing, though. A protagonist is a major central point of a given story, one that the player is meant to connect with in some form. Romance, on the other hand, is an optional bonus which gives it much more flexibility in practice.

And people would have a hard time connecting with elves? It's not like they're, well, alien in any way.

[Fiery Phoenix]

And people would have a hard time connecting with elves? It's not like they're, well, alien in any way.

You'd be surprised how many actually would...

[TK514]

I could, possibly, see them making another web-based choose your own adventure where you can only play an elf, but not an actual meaningful entry into the series.

[Boost32]

I would never buy a game with a elven protagonist.
I have no interest in their history, its funny how many people says humans are boring, because, to me, the elves (both City elves and Dalish) are the boring ones.

[AWTEW]

Humans do get boring tbh.

[Herr Uhl]

It would be a fairly weird choice to a Dalish elf to side with Dalish or with the Imperium in the first place. As that is what I assume when you say non andrastian elves.

When it comes to choices like in DA2 you're usually an outsider, which DA2 kind of made clear no matter how contrived the mage Hawke was.

[daveliam]

Dwarves wouldn't work at all, they only have two classes.

 

That is a very fair point. 

[Xilizhra]

It would be a fairly weird choice to a Dalish elf to side with Dalish or with the Imperium in the first place. As that is what I assume when you say non andrastian elves.

When it comes to choices like in DA2 you're usually an outsider, which DA2 kind of made clear no matter how contrived the mage Hawke was.

I would have the PC be a city elf, actually. They wouldn't belong to the Andrastian Chantry anyway, but the Imperial Chantry, if they believe at all. But they could side with the Dalish and possibly convert to them, yes.

[TK514]

Additionally, if the just spent a year revamping a game because they realized their playbase was pretty hard core about PC racial choice, why would they turn around and backtrack on that?

 

Far more likely that what we'll see is another game where racial choice is baked in from the beginning.

[LobselVith8]

Won't happen.

Unfortunately.

[Aimi]

"Do you think that elfy times already take up too much game and lore space compared to relatively under-explored races like qunari or dwarves?"

"...yes."

"Too bad."

I would have the PC be a city elf, actually. They wouldn't belong to the Andrastian Chantry anyway, but the Imperial Chantry, if they believe at all. But they could side with the Dalish and possibly convert to them, yes.

I don't think Tevinter elves even have alienages, what with the slavery and all.

[Panda]

I just hope this human centerism stops. It's tiring when you are playing with non-human and everyone thinks you are still human cause human is default.

[Xilizhra]

"Do you think that elfy times already take up too much game and lore space compared to relatively under-explored races like qunari or dwarves?"

"...yes."

"Too bad."

Both are in a different situation from elven lore, for different reasons. For dwarves, pretty much all of their lore is underground, and a great deal would be in darkspawn-infested locations; while I'd definitely support a visit to Kal-Sharok, and I think that a game set in Tevinter could get a lot of dwarven lore in (as Tevinter is the one possible exception to the previous statement), the dwarven racial conflict isn't really about identity so much as it is about sustaining oneself in the face of darkspawn aggression. It's a good story, but it'd also be one that'd require a heavy darkspawn focus, and by the same token, wouldn't require a dwarven protagonist because the darkspawn are everyone's enemy.

 

Qunari are in a completely different spot, where issues of identity are important to them... but the Qun is so alien and so in opposition to the rest of Thedas that a story arc about whether or not to join the Qun wouldn't really work, as joining the Qun would lead to the end of one's independent adventuring career. So most if not all of qunari lore would be gained through conflict with the qunari themselves, which also doesn't have any racial requirements.

 

Elves are the only race where being a part of their struggle practically necessitates that you be part of their race.