I want to know her exact issue with demons it seems like she had a traumatic experience that Cole was trying to delve into in their party banter before she stops him. Is it mentioned anywhere or does she talk about it in depth somewhere and I missed it.
You're inventing details. All we know is that the one organised group of mages left in southern Thedas refused, and Vivienne waged war upon them until they surrendered.
But there are others rebels cell in Thedas, she leads the loyalist mages and to recreate the Circles you need mages. There is no mention of conflict besides Fiona's rebels.
Vivienne's supposed Loyalist supporters - of whom we see nothing - is evidently too insignificant to play any role in sealing the breach. And the scattered rebel mages are hardly likely to be significant.
The bulk of the mages - those who fought Corypheus with the Inquisition - fight her until they are crushed.
I personally can't stand people who put so much stock in "The Game." Everything word and gesture comes across as very fake and power grabby, and Vivienne falls into those tropes. Plus, many conversations she has with people come off as very flippant and rude. Half the time I can't stand her.
The people you hate are the nobles in the Wicked Hearts ball. Vivienne can play the game but I don't think she comes across as fake, as a matter of fact she usually doesn't hold back in expressing her opinion whether positive or negative. Personally I hate liars, but I never really noticed her lying to me or even manipulate, because I can ask her about her intentions and she never denied about wanting the Divine throne.
The rude and snarky comments though is a valid point, that is due to her personality and sense of being better than those around her. I usually find it funny though as its never malicious. Comments about the Hinterlands smelling like wet dog. And praising the Inquisitor for his/her choice of places to explore when they enter a dark, wet cave.
I like Vivienne. I may not agree with her politics but I like her swagger. She (and Sera) bring some much needed levity to the Inquisition. I really enjoy her party banter with Bull and Varric, and her bickering with Solas is entertaining. Plus, she has excellent taste in decor and fashion.
Viv and Blackwall is even better. She sees him as a lowlife thug.... lol. Not too far off from the truth to be fair.
Viv and Blackwall is even better. She sees him as a lowlife thug.... lol. Not too far off from the truth to be fair.
I never had both Viv and Blackwall in the same group enough to get any good snarky banter. I shall rectify this in my next playthrough. 
Yeah,I agree with you.Vivienne's supposed Loyalist supporters - of whom we see nothing - is evidently too insignificant to play any role in sealing the breach. And the scattered rebel mages are hardly likely to be significant.
The bulk of the mages - those who fought Corypheus with the Inquisition - fight her until they are crushed.
I like Vivienne. I may not agree with her politics but I like her swagger. She (and Sera) bring some much needed levity to the Inquisition. I really enjoy her party banter with Bull and Varric, and her bickering with Solas is entertaining. Plus, she has excellent taste in decor and fashion.
She can also solo dragons on nightmare.
She can also solo dragons on nightmare.
Yeah, Viv is a badass. I'm gonna give nightmare a go soonish because I really want that last achievement. I'll be sure to drag Viv along with me pretty much everywhere.
The people you hate are the nobles in the Wicked Hearts ball. Vivienne can play the game but I don't think she comes across as fake, as a matter of fact she usually doesn't hold back in expressing her opinion whether positive or negative. Personally I hate liars, but I never really noticed her lying to me or even manipulate, because I can ask her about her intentions and she never denied about wanting the Divine throne.
Vivienne doesn't allow herself to show or express weakness of any kind. When her disapproval is low enough, she rearranges the Inquisitor's furniture and says it was just a "test" to see where the Inquisitor's limits are. If the Inquisitors asks Vivienne if they have a problem, Vivienne responds "Not at all, darling." When Blackwall asks Vivienne if she's okay after taking a blow, Vivienne laughs at him as says "Aren't you sweet?"
That to me is fake. Vivienne has an issue with the Inquisitor but won't say so. She might be hurt from the blow, but can't admit to it. She might be jealous of the Inquisitor's relationship (which Blackwall calls her out on), but she can't show it. That to me is "fake" - when people put on appearances for appearances sake.
The rude and snarky comments though is a valid point, that is due to her personality and sense of being better than those around her. I usually find it funny though as its never malicious. Comments about the Hinterlands smelling like wet dog. And praising the Inquisitor for his/her choice of places to explore when they enter a dark, wet cave.
I'm not sure if Vivienne actually believes she's better than everyone or just believes she has to appear to be better than everyone... I find the second option more compelling.
Her comments about the Hinterlands and such I find more annoying than funny. What did she think she'd be doing in the Inquisition? If she has issues with where our missions takes us, she can stay home. I don't like listening to her "whine."
I don't believe it's addressed in depth. But I wish it was. I would explain a lot. The way Cole talks, she may have actually been possessed once.
She had a traumatic experience in her harrowing, a demon almost possessed her, now she distrust any Fade being.
Ahhh, okay. I could see how this could be how she understands that the "gift" she's been given should serve "man" and wants to keep Mages in line before they become abominations. Which is why she really dislikes Apostates because they are not taught this ideal.
What I want to know is why she thinks moving the furniture would bother my nomadic Dalish Elf?
All epilogue slides contain war relating the mages: only Vivienne's is resolved.
No. Leliana's are the only endings in which the rebel mages are alive and there's no immediate conflict.
In both of Vivienne's endings there's immediate revolt and/or war, and both of Cassandra's endings foreshadow war.
I wouldn't classify Vivienne's dictatorship as having "resolved" anything.
After she defeats Fiona, there is no more fight, so its resolved.No. Leliana's are the only endings in which the rebel mages are alive and there's no immediate conflict.
In both of Vivienne's endings there's immediate revolt and/or war, and both of Cassandra's endings foreshadow war.
I wouldn't classify Vivienne's dictatorship as having "resolved" anything.
What I want to know is why she thinks moving the furniture would bother my nomadic Dalish Elf?
LOL! She just doesn't have much experience with Dalish Elves. 
The Chasind skywatcher does get to call Vivienne out on her outfit (that she wore to a BOG) to which she has no response to. 
I never had both Viv and Blackwall in the same group enough to get any good snarky banter. I shall rectify this in my next playthrough.
I was running around with them yesterday and the things she says to Blackwall really bring home to me, why I dislike her so much. This is even with me not being very happy with Blackwall myself, knowing the truth about his background. I really can't stand the way she treats people and wish there was an option to call her on it.
Vivienne is like a politician, in this case, a mage politician amongst the nobility in a political setting where devious scheming and machination is a sport. If you know how to deal with a politician, you will get along with her just fine.
If politics and the political game flummoxes you or frustrates you, you will hate her. Tis' as simple as that my dear.
She is not fake nor evil. She is just a political woman with a specific world view who wants to gain more power for herself. Think of a modern day female politician from a conservative party of some form who is very driven and you get Vivienne.
As for possession, I think she may have experienced what it was like to be possessed for a moment before either ridding the demon on her own or with others' help. That dialogue with Cole shows as much. This together with her Circle upbringing is most likely the prime factor for her world views.
The only thing I don't like about Vivienne, not as a character but I do not like the fact that she was not a romance option. I think she would have made a more interesting option than the cliched Cassandra and Josephine. She is a woman who wants power. The male Inquisitor is someone who will end up getting a lot of power. During her personal quest, we get involved in a machination that is very ambiguous in nature in that it can either be interpreted as Vivienne killing her lover or failing to save Bastien. It would have been nice and certainly darker and gritter to scheme with Vivienne to off her lover so the Inquisitor and her can romance each other.
It would most certainly take the notion of romance to a whole new level. Right now its just gifts and flirting but to involve political scheming, that would have given the Inquisitor personal life a flavor of Game of Thrones.
She did tell the Inquisitor to abandon people at Haven during Corypheus's attack. While she did approve of you actually saving them all afterwards at Skyhold it doesn't change the fact that in the heat of the moment Vivienne was fine with letting those people die even they were literally right of front of you fighting for their lives or trying to escape from raging fires.
That's just one of those things that I can't get past.
I was running around with them yesterday and the things she says to Blackwall really bring home to me, why I dislike her so much. This is even with me not being very happy with Blackwall myself, knowing the truth about his background. I really can't stand the way she treats people and wish there was an option to call her on it.
Is it really that bad?
I enjoy her snark for the most part but the one time I actually wanted to slap the taste out of Viv's mouth was when she chimed in while Dorian was giving Solas grief over his choice in clothing with her "unwashed apostate hobo" remark. 
And yeah, I get that comment is pretty tame compared to some of the other stuff she spouts off but that ruffled my feathers. I can't help it. I 
Solas.
I found Vivienne one of the more interesting characters in DA:I (together with Cole and Sera).
She did tell the Inquisitor to abandon people at Haven during Corypheus's attack. While she did approve of you actually saving them all afterwards at Skyhold it doesn't change the fact that in the heat of the moment Vivienne was fine with letting those people die even they were literally right of front of you fighting for their lives or trying to escape from raging fires.
That's just one of those things that I can't get past.
& if you are in a situation where shite well and truly hit the fan...Would you save yourself first or try to save other people ?
Seriously though, I know our characters are not us but to understand Vivienne is to understand politicians...What kind of politician would spend their time saving people during trouble ? Politicians would be more interested in saving their arses.
Is it really that bad?
I enjoy her snark for the most part but the one time I actually wanted to slap the taste out of Viv's mouth was when she chimed in while Dorian was giving Solas grief over his choice in clothing with her "unwashed apostate hobo" remark.
And yeah, I get that comment is pretty tame compared to some of the other stuff she spouts off but that ruffled my feathers. I can't help it. I
Blackwall: Are you alright, Lady Vivienne?
Vivienne: Whatever are you talking about, darling?
Blackwall: In our last fight, I saw you take a blow. If I'd been there quicker—
Vivienne: Oh, aren't you precious?
Blackwall: I appear to have offended.
Vivienne: No, dear. You couldn't possibly offend me.
Blackwall: What fault do you find with me, Vivienne? I've tried to be civil.
Vivienne: Darling, your civility has so little to do with your faults. I wouldn't let that trouble you.
Blackwall: Then what am I doing wrong?
Vivienne: Just keep hitting things, my dear. Don't worry your little head about the rest.
Blackwall: Evidently, I offend you just by existing, Vivienne. What is it you want me to do?
Vivienne: I'm sure I don't know, darling. Do you imagine I spend all my waking hours worrying about your self-improvement?
Blackwall: Look, I wasn't trying to imply that you--
Vivienne: My dear Blackwall, there's nothing you can do to make your Order relevant to our present situation.
Vivienne: You really must stop assuming everything is about you. It's unbecoming.
Yeah, she can be pretty mean at times to Blackwall and it's never really understood why because she still acts this way even before his reveal.
Perhaps Fiona made her just hate Grey Wardens?
Blackwall: Are you alright, Lady Vivienne?
Vivienne: Whatever are you talking about, darling?
Blackwall: In our last fight, I saw you take a blow. If I'd been there quicker—
Vivienne: Oh, aren't you precious?
Blackwall: I appear to have offended.
Vivienne: No, dear. You couldn't possibly offend me.
Blackwall: What fault do you find with me, Vivienne? I've tried to be civil.
Vivienne: Darling, your civility has so little to do with your faults. I wouldn't let that trouble you.
Blackwall: Then what am I doing wrong?
Vivienne: Just keep hitting things, my dear. Don't worry your little head about the rest.
Blackwall: Evidently, I offend you just by existing, Vivienne. What is it you want me to do?
Vivienne: I'm sure I don't know, darling. Do you imagine I spend all my waking hours worrying about your self-improvement?
Blackwall: Look, I wasn't trying to imply that you--
Vivienne: My dear Blackwall, there's nothing you can do to make your Order relevant to our present situation.
Vivienne: You really must stop assuming everything is about you. It's unbecoming.
Yeah, she can be pretty mean at times to Blackwall and it's never really understood why because she still acts this way even before his reveal.
Perhaps Fiona made her just hate Grey Wardens?
It would also explain Vivienne's special hatred for apostate mages who do well....Morrigan practically usurped her in court...Fiona probably did so in the Circle Hierarchy...
Blackwall: Are you alright, Lady Vivienne?
Vivienne: Whatever are you talking about, darling?
Blackwall: In our last fight, I saw you take a blow. If I'd been there quicker—
Vivienne: Oh, aren't you precious?
Blackwall: I appear to have offended.
Vivienne: No, dear. You couldn't possibly offend me.
Blackwall: What fault do you find with me, Vivienne? I've tried to be civil.
Vivienne: Darling, your civility has so little to do with your faults. I wouldn't let that trouble you.
Blackwall: Then what am I doing wrong?
Vivienne: Just keep hitting things, my dear. Don't worry your little head about the rest.
Blackwall: Evidently, I offend you just by existing, Vivienne. What is it you want me to do?
Vivienne: I'm sure I don't know, darling. Do you imagine I spend all my waking hours worrying about your self-improvement?
Blackwall: Look, I wasn't trying to imply that you--
Vivienne: My dear Blackwall, there's nothing you can do to make your Order relevant to our present situation.
Vivienne: You really must stop assuming everything is about you. It's unbecoming.
Yeah, she can be pretty mean at times to Blackwall and it's never really understood why because she still acts this way even before his reveal.
Perhaps Fiona made her just hate Grey Wardens?
Ouch. 
She is not fake nor evil. She is just a political woman with a specific world view who wants to gain more power for herself. Think of a modern day female politician from a conservative party of some form who is very driven and you get Vivienne.
Politicians are fake, Vivienne's a politician, Vivienne is fake. Just how I see it.
Now her not being evil I would agree with. I think she has her priorities in the wrong place, but that certainly doesn't make her evil.
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