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[prosthetic soul]

I'm watching some of the female romance play-throughs and I am just blown away.  Both at the quality itself and the amount of difference in quality when compared to the straight male romances.  Now, I can already sense some of you breaking out the shot glasses and I KNOW most of you have begun rolling your eyes right about....now.  But hear me out on this one. 

 

Why does it feel like Bioware put in 1000x more effort into the Solas/Blackwall/Cullen romances than any other?   I'm not insinuating anything and I'm not here to RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE but there comes a point where sometimes you just got to point something out.   The Solas romance for instance is so wonderfully intertwined with the story and is just filled to the brim with lore and has layers upon layers of content.  Blackwall's romance is just a choice lover's dream come true.  And I've already made a thread some weeks ago about well done his romance was.  Now, as for Cass and Josie....

 

Comparing Solas' and Blackwall's romances to Josephine's and Cass's is like comparing an F-15 to a crop duster.  Sure, they'll both take you to where you want to go, but the fighter jet is just....SO MUCH MORE FUN.  And you can shoot missiles flying that sucker!    Cass's romance has no choices.  None whatsoever.  You either choose to romance her or choose not to.  And once you do, it pretty much fizzles out for the rest of the game.  I love ya Cassandra but your romance has no meat to it.  No SUBSTANCE. 

 

Josephine's is even worse, which is quite a feat.  You either duel the guy and profess your love to her or you act like a fool and she rejects both you and that swag lord Otranto.  The End.  Once the duel is over, there are no further choices or really any scenes of any substance whatsoever.  And yes, you may be saying "Chronoid, this is an RPG, not a dating sim!"

 

Yes.  But all I'm doing is comparing these underwhelming romances to the ones which truly shine.  So I know Bioware is capable of doing better.  Much, MUCH better. 

 

tl;dr version: Read or do not read.  There is no try.  (and no coming into my thread complaining about how long my post is either)

[Colonelkillabee]

Meh, at least my bae only leaves me if I make her divine. Solas...

 

Anyway, I don't care, I adore Cassandra and I think her romance is every bit as good as Solas'. And the ladies needed some quality after the last game. Then there's all the tragicness besides Cullen.

 

Don't know about you, but the divine thing, that's a big choice, dude. I think having to choose to support her or not for whatever reasons, and having that decision affect your romance is big and has lots of meat. Especially on her thighs, lolol. Don't know what you're talking about bro. That's still tearing at me really, meanwhile as good as the Solas arc is, you get no choice in what happens with him, he just leaves. For now.

[leaguer of one]

You're kidding...

NSFW

Spoiler

Look at that. That's a woman baring her heart a soul to you. A woman who lost everything who fears losing more.

Sorry, but it's fantastic.

[daveliam]

I can't speak to Cullen or Solas (but they do seem to be two of the more popular romances).  I can speak to the Blackwall romance and, frankly, it's good, but not anything to write home about.  I've done his companion quest twice before and was really hoping for some more emotional impact with the romance and it left me feeling a little flat.  I didn't think it played out much different than it does if you don't romance him and the rest of his romance is pretty bland.  Again, it wasn't bad, it just doesn't seem as good as you're insinuating.  I've done three romances and for me, it goes:  Dorian >>>>>>>>> Blackwall > Iron Bull

[MoonDrummer]

I thought the Josephine romance was quite funny, Cassandra's was okay...

[prosthetic soul]

Meh, at least my bae only leaves me if I make her divine. Solas...

 

Anyway, I don't care, I adore Cassandra and I think her romance is every bit as good as Solas'. And the ladies needed some quality after the last game. Then there's all the tragicness besides Cullen.

 

Don't know about you, but the divine thing, that's a big choice, dude. I think having to choose to support her or not for whatever reasons, and having that decision affect your romance is big and has lots of meat. Especially on her thighs, lolol. Don't know what you're talking about bro. That's still tearing at me really, meanwhile as good as the Solas arc is, you get no choice in what happens with him, he just leaves. For now.

Yes, I suppose you're right about that.  We did get Morrigan in Origins too now that I think about it. 

[DWA824]

I Agree 100%

[Icy Magebane]

Sounds like a fair criticism to me... the straight male romances didn't really seem that ground breaking in DA:I, especially when compared to the romance plots for Solas, Cullen, and Blackwall.  Maybe it's just the fact that the writers had so many different things going on that this area didn't get that much attention?  I mean, there are a lot of romances in this game... some of them would inevitably wind up lacking when compared to the others.  I'm sure it's merely a coincidence that it's the two straight male romances though.

[AresKeith]

Sounds like a fair criticism to me... the straight male romances didn't really seem that ground breaking in DA:I, especially when compared to the romance plots for Solas, Cullen, and Blackwall.  Maybe it's just the fact that the writers had so many different things going on that this area didn't get that much attention?  I mean, there are a lot of romances in this game... some of them would inevitably wind up lacking when compared to the others.  I'm sure it's merely a coincidence that it's the two straight male romances though.

 

None of them are really "lacking" each romance are suppose to be different from each other

[DWA824]

I've been very vocal about my distaste for the Straight Male romances.

 

Cassandra's was passible but it just didn't click for me. Not to mention it felt wrong getting with right after she lost Gaylan...

 

Jossie's was really cheesy.

 

overall Fem players got a much better deal.

[leaguer of one]

Sounds like a fair criticism to me... the straight male romances didn't really seem that ground breaking in DA:I, especially when compared to the romance plots for Solas, Cullen, and Blackwall.  Maybe it's just the fact that the writers had so many different things going on that this area didn't get that much attention?  I mean, there are a lot of romances in this game... some of them would inevitably wind up lacking when compared to the others.  I'm sure it's merely a coincidence that it's the two straight male romances though.

You mean not as much problems.

One a recovering junky, one is lying to you and is lying to you and leave you.

 

It's like the da2 romances all over agein.

[prosthetic soul]

None of them are really "lacking" each romance are suppose to be different from each other

You say potato, I say EEEW I don't like Potatoes

[leaguer of one]

I've been very vocal about my distaste for the Straight Male romances.

 

Cassandra's was passible but it just didn't click for me. Not to mention it felt wrong getting with right after she lost Gaylan...

 

 

We didn't know she just lost Gaylan. Jaheria from Bulder's gate had that same issue as well

[AresKeith]

I've been very vocal about my distaste for the Straight Male romances.

 

Cassandra's was passible but it just didn't click for me. Not to mention it felt wrong getting with right after she lost Gaylan...

 

Jossie's was really cheesy.

 

overall Fem players got a much better deal.

 

They weren't together long before he died 

[leaguer of one]

You say potato, I say EEEW I don't like Potatoes

As I said before..

Those romances just have more issues.

One a recovering junky, one is lying to you and is lying to you and leave you.

 

It's like the da2 romances all over again. Why do problem make a romance better?

[prosthetic soul]

As I said before..

Those romances just have more issues.

One a recovering junky, one is lying to you and is lying to you and leave you.

 

It's like the da2 romances all over again. Why do problem make a romance better?

I'm a firm believer you can have substance in a romance without it ending in tragedy or having tons of problems or dysfunction like with the female romances.  See Blackwall as an example.  That one had a bit of dysfunction but could still end how you saw fit. 

[Icy Magebane]

You mean not as much problems.

One a recovering junky, one is lying to you and is lying to you and leave you.

 

It's like the da2 romances all over agein.

Maybe those things could be seen as negative, but at least there is actual drama and the potential for growth in those romance plots... looking for a poetry book isn't all that interesting, especially when the Inquisitor is forced to then recite lines from that book in order to progress the plot with no other options.  Ultimately, Cassandra's romance felt rather shallow... no chances were taken, and given how often she ignored the Inquisitor's flirting (pretty much every time before that poetry book nonsense), I never felt that there was any real connection between the characters.

 

Also, as the OP said, it was just so... linear and basic.  Just from point A to point B and then done.  No twists, no turns, no excitement.

[MoonDrummer]

You say potato, I say EEEW I don't like Potatoes

How can you not like potatoes?

[prosthetic soul]

How can you not like potatoes?

Oh, I love potatoes, I was just being facetious. 

[Akrabra]

To be honest the romance that touched me the most and made me feel the most was Cassandra. Her character is just so well written and acted it makes me feel for her. The romance may lack abit of content, but the Inquisitior has very deep conversations with her and she is very relevant to the Inquisiton. Was a good pairing.

[Colonelkillabee]

Yes, I suppose you're right about that.  We did get Morrigan in Origins too now that I think about it. 

Indeed! Morrigan's great. Though I honestly prefer Cassandra a lot more, which I didn't think was possible before DA I...

 

Meanwhile women had Allistair, who I adore and all but...

 

"I don't know, is touching you acceptible? Oh I looked... there... is that okay? I-I mean I just, I don't know if that's rude or, can I kiss you? Er, uh, I mean if you want? But uh"

 

*Facepalm* lol

[leaguer of one]

Maybe those things could be seen as negative, but at least there is actual drama and the potential for growth in those romance plots... looking for a poetry book isn't all that interesting, especially when the Inquisitor is forced to then recite lines from that book in order to progress the plot with no other options.  Ultimately, Cassandra's romance felt rather shallow... no chances were taken, and given how often she ignored the Inquisitor's flirting (pretty much every time before that poetry book nonsense), I never felt that there was any real connection between the characters.

But drama does not make a romance better. The depth in her romance is her emotions with it not the drama.

[MoonDrummer]

Oh, I love potatoes, I was just being facetious. 

Okay good, I thought we were gona have a problem there 

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Disagree. Blackwall's is good enough, but I didn't find it particularly profound, and Cullen's is sweet but uninteresting. Romancing Cullen is exactly as I expected it to be. I didn't care for Josephine's, but I would rank Cassandra above those three. (Dorian is still number one, though, and I've yet to finish Sera or Solas's so I can't compare those.)

[prosthetic soul]

Maybe those things could be seen as negative, but at least there is actual drama and the potential for growth in those romance plots... looking for a poetry book isn't all that interesting, especially when the Inquisitor is forced to then recite lines from that book in order to progress the plot with no other options.  Ultimately, Cassandra's romance felt rather shallow... no chances were taken, and given how often she ignored the Inquisitor's flirting (pretty much every time before that poetry book nonsense), I never felt that there was any real connection between the characters.

THIS.  EXACTLY THIS.  I think this too is why I Found the Cass romance off.  She never acknowledged your flirting until she comes up and taps on your shoulder from behind while you walk through scaffolding like a wizard.  It ruined any possible connection and character interaction potential.  It made the whole romance feel shallow and lifeless.  GREAT OBSERVATION MAGEBANE.