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[DWA824]

Quick Question: If Krem was a romance option for a Male Inqusitor would it be a straight romance or a gay one? I know Krem id's as a male but they still have lady bits so....

[leaguer of one]

Disagree. Blackwall's is good enough, but I didn't find it particularly profound, and Cullen's is sweet but uninteresting. Romancing Cullen is exactly as I expected it to be. I didn't care for Josephine's, but I would rank Cassandra above those three. (Dorian is still number one, though, and I've yet to finish Sera or Solas's so I can't compare those.)

Sera's will hit you like a truck. Solas' will make you cry.

[daveliam]

Quick Question: If Krem was a romance option for a Male Inqusitor would it be a straight romance or a gay one? I know Krem id's as a male but they still have lady bits so....

 

If Krem were interested in males, he'd be a m/m option.  But this isn't the place for that discussion.  Take it to one of the Krem threads and I'll happily discuss it with you there, if you'd like.

[leaguer of one]

Quick Question: If Krem was a romance option for a Male Inqusitor would it be a straight romance or a gay one? I know Krem id's as a male but they still have lady bits so....

Why would it matter? 

[Colonelkillabee]

Why would it matter? 

This. Why even start that. It's not even related to anything.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Sera's will hit you like a truck. Solas' will make you cry.

I kind of hate Solas, so I'm not holding my breath. I'm just doing it so I can roll my eyes with authority.

[Icy Magebane]

But drama does not make a romance better. The depth in her romance is her emotions with it not the drama.

This is sometimes true depending on the drama and the romance.  In this case, Cassandra's romance didn't feel like it actually went anywhere and I think it's because there was no real conflict for the characters to overcome or fall victim to.  As long as it isn't excessive, drama can go a long way towards keeping the player invested in any story, and this is especially true about romances.  Without that, it's just a simple progression of events that forces the player to rely on their imagination to find any substance or meaning.

[AresKeith]

Maybe those things could be seen as negative, but at least there is actual drama and the potential for growth in those romance plots... looking for a poetry book isn't all that interesting, especially when the Inquisitor is forced to then recite lines from that book in order to progress the plot with no other options.  Ultimately, Cassandra's romance felt rather shallow... no chances were taken, and given how often she ignored the Inquisitor's flirting (pretty much every time before that poetry book nonsense), I never felt that there was any real connection between the characters.

 

Cassandra tells you she likes the ideal romance, the Inquisitor decides to go out and get those things to show her that wants to be that man 

[prosthetic soul]

Cassandra tells you she likes the ideal romance, the Inquisitor decides to go out and get those things to show her that wants to be that man 

Yes but it's so straightforward.  There was no conflict or hiccups along the way.  Nothing to make it interesting. 

 

Please note that this does not mean I condone the romance ending in tragedy or death.  Back off Gaider.  >_>

[(Disgusted noise.)]

But drama does not make a romance better. The depth in her romance is her emotions with it not the drama.

I agree. And that's why what makes a good romance is mostly subjective. I'm generally not a fan on angsty romance's I'm much more interested in the emotional responses and growth of a character. That's why I didn't like Josephine's, it was emotionally shallow and you didn't learn anything new about her.

[Orian Tabris]

Your post was WAY too long!

 

I've watched the Blackwall romance, and I found it to be OK. It only really got interesting once you got to his personal quest. Nothing ground-breaking, but it did show how the romances should be written. The couple undergoing difficulties in their relationship that compel the player to want to see more. It just felt too much like Alistair's romance, after the quest was done.

[prosthetic soul]

I agree. And that's why what makes a good romance is mostly subjective. I'm generally not a fan on angsty romance's I'm much more interested in the emotional responses and growth of a character. That's why I didn't like Josephine's, it was emotionally shallow and you didn't learn anything new about her.

Without conflict, there is no story.  Same could be said for characters and character interaction. 

[Icy Magebane]

Cassandra tells you she likes the ideal romance, the Inquisitor decides to go out and get those things to show her that wants to be that man 

I understand the events of the plot.  As you just demonstrated, they are not particularly complex.  My point is that I found it uninteresting and unengaging when compared to some of the other romance plots.

 

edit: Changed "them" to "it" since I've never experienced the Josephine romance...

[Orian Tabris]

You say potato, I say EEEW I don't like Potatoes

 

You don't like potatoes!? Not even mashed potatoes!? What, did you destroy your taste buds with Nutella?

[leaguer of one]

This is sometimes true depending on the drama and the romance.  In this case, Cassandra's romance didn't feel like it actually went anywhere and I think it's because there was no real conflict for the characters to overcome or fall victim to.  As long as it isn't excessive, drama can go a long way towards keeping the player invested in any story, and this is especially true about romances.  Without that, it's just a simple progression of events that forces the player to rely on their imagination to find any substance or meaning.

1. They don't need be conflict with romance or anything to overcome. Romanced don't have to be you helping a sick/injured puppy you find next to a road.

2. And Cassies issue is her not going for something she wants. She always put what she want to the side in the name of the greater good. This romance is about her for once going after what she want and no repressing it.

[prosthetic soul]

You don't like potatoes!? Not even mashed potatoes!? What, did you destroy your taste buds with Nutella?

I LOVE Nutella.  First tried it in Paris France.  Couldn't get enough of the stuff.  Thought it was some magical thing the French cooked up. 

[AresKeith]

Yes but it's so straightforward.  There was no conflict or hiccups along the way.  Nothing to make it interesting. 

 

Please note that this does not mean I condone the romance ending in tragedy or death.  Back off Gaider.  >_>

 

I understand the events of the plot.  As you just demonstrated, they are not particularly complex.  My point is that I found it uninteresting and unengaging when compared to some of the other romance plots.

 

edit: Changed "them" to "it" since I've never experienced the Josephine romance...

 

 

Conflict or drama isn't always needed to make for a good romance 

 

All of these characters drama even had nothing to do with romance, they were character arcs. Cassandra's arc would be with the Seekers

 

You could even argue the Divine talk was the drama of the romance

[leaguer of one]

Without conflict, there is no story.  Same could be said for characters and character interaction. 

Romance does not need to have conflict. There many romaces that don't have conflict.

[MoonDrummer]

You don't like potatoes!? Not even mashed potatoes!? What, did you destroy your taste buds with Nutella?

roasties for life. 

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Without conflict, there is no story.  Same could be said for characters and character interaction. 

Cassandra does have conflict in the romance, though, it's just internal rather than something over dramatic like Blackwall's constantly telling you he's not good enough for you. Cassandra wants a fairy tale romance that she doesn't think she'll ever get. She also worries about getting involved with someone only to have it end badly and have her heart broken (either by you dying of breaking it off with her). That's conflicting enough for me and preferable to what's in some other romances.

[prosthetic soul]

Romance does not need to have conflict. There many romaces that don't have conflict.

Give me a relationship in any form whether it be fictional or non fictional, that does NOT have its ups AND downs and I'll show you something that does not exist. 

[Icy Magebane]

1. They don't need be conflict with romance or anything to overcome. Romanced don't have to be you helping a sick/injured puppy you find next to a road.

2. And Cassies issue is her not going for something she wants. She always put what she want to the side in the name of the greater good. This romance is about her for once going after what she want and no repressing it.

Hm... well, you're entitled to your opinion, but I found this plot to be boring, linear, and unimaginative.  It was the equivalent of asking a girl on a date and then finding the right gifts for her.  That's pretty much it... not really sure how you would find that to be so satisfying, but as I said, to each their own.

[leaguer of one]

Give me a relationship in any form whether it be fictional or non fictional, that does NOT have its ups AND downs and I'll show you something that does not exist. 

Garrus/Femshep.

[prosthetic soul]

Conflict or drama isn't always needed to make for a good romance 

 

All of these characters drama even had nothing to do with romance, they were character arcs. Cassandra's arc would be with the Seekers

 

You could even argue the Divine talk was the drama of the romance

romance IS drama my friend.  Romance is drama. 

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Give me a relationship in any form whether it be fictional or non fictional, that does NOT have its ups AND downs and I'll show you something that does not exist. 

You're right, but none of the romances are like that. Hell, even Josephine's romance, which sounds like it was written like a twelve year old who only watches princess movies, has it.