Hm... well, you're entitled to your opinion, but I found this plot to be boring, linear, and unimaginative. It was the equivalent of asking a girl on a date and then finding the right gifts for her. That's pretty much it... not really sure how you would find that to be so satisfying, but as I said, to each their own.
Each there own...But isn't that long term dating goes?
romance IS drama my friend. Romance is drama.
No, it does not need to be. It's not a soap opera.
Garrus/Femshep.
Touche but that had the advantage of cross species stuff and Garrus being the best character ever going for it.
Each there own...But isn't that long term dating goes?
See, I just don't find that to be very engaging as a plotline in a video game... I mean, this is the kind of plot that the Inquisitor could have had with any person at Skyhold. What makes it unique? What part of it makes me care for the characters that I'm watching? This is why I think drama is important in an interpersonal plot that takes place in video games (or any media). Without that, the story is mundane... IMO, there's really just not a lot there...
If you constantly watch soap opera's maybe
And have never been in an adult relationship that lasts longer than three months...
Touche but that had the advantage of cross species stuff and Garrus being the best character ever going for it.
Cross species did not matter. There was not drama about that. It was just two long time friend taking the next step and it just got better and better as time went on.
Tali's romance had more cross species drama because she could of die from the sex.
I LOVE Nutella. First tried it in Paris France. Couldn't get enough of the stuff. Thought it was some magical thing the French cooked up.
My guess is you're American, since only an American would call Paris "Paris, France".
See, I just don't find that to be very engaging as a plotline in a video game... I mean, this is the kind of plot that the Inquisitor could have had with any person at Skyhold. What makes it unique? What part of it makes me care for the characters that I'm watching? This is why I think drama is important in an interpersonal plot that takes place in video games (or any media). Without that, the story is mundane... IMO, there's really just not a lot there...
What makes you care is what you know and feel about the Character, not the drama they are in. Drama does not matter if you don't feel or know anything about the characters.
And have never been in an adult relationship that lasts longer than three months...
Plus what you said about Cass' romance would be the drama in it
What makes you care is what you know and feel about the Character, not the drama they are in. Drama does not matter if you don't feel or know anything about the characters.
Just watching an interaction between two interesting characters isn't enough to make me care about them. The romance was the equivalent of watching them eat breakfast... sure I like the characters, and sure they are doing something realistic, but... why am I watching this? Without any kind of conflict or drama, there is nothing to hold my attention.
Actually, watching people eat breakfast has the potential to be interesting... as soon as they come into conflict when they realize there's only one pancake left... xD
See, I just don't find that to be very engaging as a plotline in a video game... I mean, this is the kind of plot that the Inquisitor could have had with any person at Skyhold. What makes it unique? What part of it makes me care for the characters that I'm watching? This is why I think drama is important in an interpersonal plot that takes place in video games (or any media). Without that, the story is mundane... IMO, there's really just not a lot there...
Some people like relationships that actually feel plausible. I get much more emotionally invested in a romance if the character is someone I could see myself actually being with in real life. So angsty romances aren't very fulfilling for me, other than as a third party observer. I would just tell Blackwall to take a hike after the second low self-esteem speech from him and I also wouldn't be able to be with someone who did what he did. But Dorian and Cassandra worrying about never having a real relationship is something I could deal with. Hell, I wouldn't just deal with it, it's something I find relatable. Maybe some people really enjoy over the top, unrealistic romantic situations, but that's not my taste.
Some people like relationships that actually feel plausible. I get much more emotionally invested in a romance if the character is someone I could see myself actually being with in real life. So angsty romances aren't very fulfilling for me, other than as a third party observer. I would just tell Blackwall to take a hike after the second low self-esteem speech from him and I also wouldn't be able to be with someone who did what he did. But Dorian and Cassandra worrying about never having a real relationship is something I could deal with. Hell, I wouldn't just deal with it, it's something I find relatable. Maybe some people really enjoy over the top, unrealistic romantic situations, but that's not my taste.
^this.
Some people like relationships that actually feel plausible. I get much more emotionally invested in a romance if the character is someone I could see myself actually being with in real life. So angsty romances aren't very fulfilling for me, other than as a third party observer. I would just tell Blackwall to take a hike after the second low self-esteem speech from him and I also wouldn't be able to be with someone who did what he did. But Dorian and Cassandra worrying about never having a real relationship is something I could deal with. Hell, I wouldn't just deal with it, it's something I find relatable. Maybe some people really enjoy over the top, unrealistic romantic situations, but that's not my taste.
It doesn't need to be angsty at all... in fact, too much drama is one of the worst things a writer can incorporate into any story. However, the complete absence of drama or conflict means that the characters in question do not grow as individuals... this was touched upon earlier when someone else also brought up Cassandra's reluctance to enter into a relationship. While I recognize that this briefly came into play, I don't feel as though it truly had an impact on the events of the story. She said she was reluctant and unsure of herself, but nothing really came of that... she still got in bed with the Inquisitor after 1 date.
We each expect or want different things form an in game romance.
Personally, I found Jossie to fluffy bunny innocent for me, Cassandra just average, Dorian run of the mill upper class romance, Cullen too nerdy at first but good later. I like Iron Bull the best, it's different but, as the story goes on, you do see that he does care for the Inquisitor, he just expresses it in a different way, it isn't a vanilla romance.
It doesn't need to be angsty at all... in fact, too much drama is one of the worst things a writer can incorporate into any story. However, the complete absence of drama or conflict means that the characters in question do not grow as individuals... this was touched upon when someone brought up Cassandra's reluctance to enter into a relationship, but while I recognize that this briefly came into play, I don't feel as though it truly had an impact on the events of the story. She said she was reluctant and unsure of herself, but nothing really came of that... she still got in bed with the Inquisitor after 1 date.
And if you break up with her during that scene, she tells you "I knew you'd break my heart. I knew it, but I wanted this anyway. The night is still young, let's pretend a little longer."
It's still there.
And if you break up with her during that scene, she tells you "I knew you'd break my heart. I knew it, but I wanted this anyway. The night is still young, let's pretend a little longer."
It's still there.
I don't know if the resulting conversation when you end a relationship counts as far as what I'm talking about, but I guess it's better than nothing.
Still, that's the player generating conflict and creating a fairly predictable result... and actually one that is standard in pretty much every Bioware relationship plot when the PC dumps their partner...
It doesn't need to be angsty at all... in fact, too much drama is one of the worst things a writer can incorporate into any story. However, the complete absence of drama or conflict means that the characters in question do not grow as individuals... this was touched upon earlier when someone else also brought up Cassandra's reluctance to enter into a relationship. While I recognize that this briefly came into play, I don't feel as though it truly had an impact on the events of the story. She said she was reluctant and unsure of herself, but nothing really came of that... she still got in bed with the Inquisitor after 1 date.
And she also talks about how people close to her always dies, and she doesn't want the Inquisitor to leave her
I'm a firm believer you can have substance in a romance without it ending in tragedy or having tons of problems or dysfunction like with the female romances. See Blackwall as an example. That one had a bit of dysfunction but could still end how you saw fit.
Well, RL romances absolutely. I hate drama in those. For this kinda thing, though, I love my tragedies. 
Well, RL romances absolutely. I hate drama in those. For this kinda thing, though, I love my tragedies.
*Looks at Female Elf warden romantic life with Tamlen and Alistair and choosing not to do the ritual.
You mean not as much problems.
One a recovering junky, one is lying to you and is lying to you and leave you.
It's like the da2 romances all over agein.
Exquieeze me? Fenris never lied to me! Anders may have been a selfish d**che, but Fen was just scared of allowing anyone to get that close. Fenris didn't lie, he just ran and hid for a few years.
And recovering addict? Is that all you saw in Cullen? I saw a good and decent man who'd been through hell and back TWICE, find the strength and determination to give up an addictive drug that was forced on him as a prerequisite of his faith! The man is amazing. Through it all he grows in character and determination to do the right thing. Cullen is a rock!
Well, at least your straight female options visit you on the balcony after the end...
And she also talks about how people close to her always dies, and she doesn't want the Inquisitor to leave her
Exactly.
"They will say one of two things about me. That I stood at the Inquisitor's side, his protector and his lover. That it was meant to be. Or they will say I was led from the path of faith by the wiles of a madman. I believe you are a faithful man. I believe you are a part of the Maker's plan. Beyond that, I only believe that you are capable of anything and that it frightens me. I have never known anything like it. I have only been with one other man, a mage who I adventured with when I was very young. He died at the conclave. I will not let Corypheus win. I will not let him take you from me."
If you don't feel like that illustrates the reasoning behind her earlier hesitancy to get involved in something, especially when you consider how her brother died, then I don't know what to tell you, to be honest.
*Looks at Female Elf warden romantic life with Tamlen and Alistair and choosing not to do the ritual.
My female Aeducan's romantic life sucked too. She was dumped by Gamlen and Alistair, and then she chose not to do the ritual... and, well, Alistair died.
womp womp womp womp
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