So I was going through another play through and paying a little closer attention but it seems like below the Shimmer Stone Mine there is a Archdemon but there was a tunnel collapse so they could not get to it.
I feel like this was mentioned very casually.
I'd definitely try to rally the Wardens and put the Inquisition's resources into getting down there and killing it.
Did anyone else pick this up? Thoughts?
Apparently they couldn't reach it, as the mine was too dangerous. Also, there's no way of knowing which Old God it was, so concievably it could be one of the five dead ones.
It made it seem like it was a more recent dig especially since the stuff didn't seem that decayed but it's possible that it's an old god that was already dead. I wish we could get some input here from Gaider lol.
I think it's highly possible there's an Archdemon burried down there.
In Asunder, Cole hear some strange music near the chasm and darkspawn are drawn to it too , if I remember correctly.
Anyway back then , I thought "Ooooh Archdemon!"
And now in DAI we know the wardens tried to reach an Old God there.
Also well , Clarel and co are building a demon army in the Western Approach to go kill an Archdemon , the wardens know where they are , and it would be stupid to raise an army there if it was in Tevinter.
Also, when claiming the landmark there, doesn't it say something about deep rumblings or vibrations being felt or something? I'm almost certain it does. If so, that would certainly indicate that something's still down there.
EDIT: Checked it out, and it says "The ground here trembles slightly underfoot." So yeah, I'd say there's definitely something down there.
I think it's highly possible there's an Archdemon burried down there.
In Asunder, Cole hear some strange music near the chasm and darkspawn are drawn to it too , if I remember correctly.
Anyway back then , I thought "Ooooh Archdemon!"
And now in DAI we know the wardens tried to reach an Old God there.
Also well , Clarel and co are building a demon army in the Western Approach to go kill an Archdemon , the wardens know where they are , and it would be stupid to raise an army there if it was in Tevinter.
Agreed.
I don't know why I find it so baffling but I do. It's just like...IT'S RIGHT THERE!- Go down and kill it. We could kill an old god as long as it is not an archdemon right?
I always got that feeling throughout the entire game we were going to stumble across an old god or there would be more on them. Like we go to the Temple of Silence, I totally thought we'd hear more on Dumat etc.
Whoa, I remember going to that location and claiming that landmark but I never read the Grey Warden journal behind it.
Pretty awesome stuff. So there's a live Archdemon /Old God under there, considering that the ground is still trembling? Why aren't the Darkspawn waking it or whatever?
Edit:
Or maybe it used to be an Old God down there one of the ones who's already been killed, and now it's just a regular old High Dragon that's taken its place? I remember that Dragon Scholar fellow mentioning that there was another smaller dragon somewhere nearby in the Western Approach after you kill the Abyssal High Dragon and ask him about other specimens in Thedas.
Wasn't this the note that mentioned that they could hear the Song so loudly that it wasn't just in their heads ala Darkspawn and Grey Wardens?
EDIT: Found it. It's from an Ancient Warden book. So it's possible it might be a dead Archdemon.
Oh this is interesting.
My own theory is that the dragons/old gods are already blighted, which is in part why they were sealed away in the first place (a tale twisted by history) and the darkspawn merely set them free having been drawn to them.
Perhaps the next game will see the Wardens or someone else finally making it down to this dragon/old god and realising it's already an archdemon, giving us a big revelation about the nature of the old gods and of blights, and kicking off another blight (possibly the last; also possibly the defining moment of the Dragon Age, when we discover what old gods really are, which will cause a transition into the next Age). We end where we began, knowing more, having had our assumptions turned on their arses, and shifting to a new paradigm in the coming Age.
Oh this is interesting.
My own theory is that the dragons/old gods are already blighted, which is in part why they were sealed away in the first place (a tale twisted by history) and the darkspawn merely set them free having been drawn to them.
Perhaps the next game will see the Wardens or someone else finally making it down to this dragon/old god and realising it's already an archdemon, giving us a big revelation about the nature of the old gods and of blights, and kicking off another blight (possibly the last; also possibly the defining moment of the Dragon Age, when we discover what old gods really are, which will cause a transition into the next Age). We end where we began, knowing more, having had our assumptions turned on their arses, and shifting to a new paradigm in the coming Age.
To be brutally honest, my own theory is that the 'old gods' are simply dragons, and what makes them Archdemons is when the soul of one of the corrupted magisters (after their form is slain) seeks them out and possesses them. That would explain why they only happen one at a time, why the Darkspawn follow them, and why the confirmed existing magister we've seen had such a command over his own dragon.
The ironic thing is that this theory would mean that they chose seven magisters, one for each God... Which lead to the belief that each archdemon was one of the Old Gods. Circular logic at its best.
Except for the Architect...whose personal account says that he awoken one by mistake.
To be brutally honest, my own theory is that the 'old gods' are simply dragons,
Whatever else they are or are not, the "old gods" of Tevinter are definitely not "just" dragons, if only because they're male, while among the canonical dragon population in DA, only females actually grow into high dragons. Thus, there is definitely something irregular about them from the very beginning.
The idea that the Archdemons are already Archdemons, though, seems likely. It was established way back in Origins and Awakening that the "old gods" call to the Darkspawn through the song of the Taint, even before Darkspawn reach and "corrupt" them. We also know that the Gray Wardens near the Western Approach in this game were amassing a demon army that they thought was going to be used to invade the Deep Roads and kill the remaining Archdemons...the mine and letter are probably connected to that. They originally attempted to do it themselves, but when they realized conditions were too dangerous, they decided to use demons.
All this stuff about sleeping Archdemons singing reminds me of Cthulhu at times.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
I'd love to see the type of thaigs that are holding them. I thought The Western Approach mission would be based around unearthing a thaig that used to house an old god and we'd get loads of new lore information about how/what contains them. 
Oh this is interesting.
My own theory is that the dragons/old gods are already blighted, which is in part why they were sealed away in the first place (a tale twisted by history) and the darkspawn merely set them free having been drawn to them.
Well, if you follow the dragon hunt questline in Western Approach you will find a confirmation of your theory 
Every dragon (that a group of scientist examined) had a cluster of tainted flesh inside them that was covered in a shell of tough, presumably taint-immune tissue. It might be that Archdemons are simply dragons who failed to develop this shell or it was somehow breached.
Wasn't this the note that mentioned that they could hear the Song so loudly that it wasn't just in their heads ala Darkspawn and Grey Wardens?
EDIT: Found it. It's from an Ancient Warden book. So it's possible it might be a dead Archdemon.
Intersting, so reading the other comments, it seems that The Archdemons are already corrupted dragons but are just sealed away and sleeping....
Well, if you follow the dragon hunt questline in Western Approach you will find a confirmation of your theory
If this is true, this means that the only cure for the blight would....kill them all! But this would probably now make sense. If the Dragons always had the tainted, how did the Magisters got it from the Black City? (which is real and tainted...)
Intersting, so reading the other comments, it seems that The Archdemons are already corrupted dragons but are just sealed away and sleeping....
If this is true, this means that the only cure for the blight would....kill them all! But this would probably now make sense. If the Dragons always had the tainted, how did the Magisters got it from the Black City? (which is real and tainted...)
No idea. But dragons ARE important. I mean, we have Flemeth/Mythal changing into dragon form. A dragon guarding an Elven god shrine. The Silent Grove (from the comics) where we learn that dragon blood is "the blood of the world". Note that it is not certain that every dragon has the Taint, just that every dragon that particular group cut open had it. There is also the question how do Dragon Thralls (tainted dragons that appear during Blight) play into this.
No idea. But dragons ARE important. I mean, we have Flemeth/Mythal changing into dragon form. A dragon guarding an Elven god shrine. The Silent Grove (from the comics) where we learn that dragon blood is "the blood of the world". Note that it is not certain that every dragon has the Taint, just that every dragon that particular group cut open had it. There is also the question how do Dragon Thralls (tainted dragons that appear during Blight) play into this.
After all games, books and statements i personally believe that Dragons were not physical creatures, but like Cole, a race of something different from spirits who were given bodies to innhabit Thedas. I mean, Cole was a spirit and became a human just like that, he can procriate, be killed and bleed when spirits can not. This could explain the song, Cole can acess people mind's as well.
Maybe Dragons came from the black city at all, and Dumat wanted to the Magisters to sent them back there. Afterall, Dragons existed before the veil....
It would be funny, considering that area is full of darkspawn, one slipped, fell in, and boom, here we go people, another round of your favorite lets kill everyone, everywhere blight thingy.
It would be funny, considering that area is full of darkspawn, one slipped, fell in, and boom, here we go people, another round of your favorite lets kill everyone, everywhere blight thingy.
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