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Were Desire Demons cut because they are controversial?
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 01:07
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 01:07
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The difference is that sloth demons and such doesn't make an appearance because they just doesn't, not because they were cut apart. But Desire demons does make one, and tadaa! It's totally different than the DA:O and DA2' ones.
Coincidence? Yeeeah, right...
A single encounter. Probably wasn't worth the effort to port the materials and retexture everything for the engine for a singular encounter.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 01:12
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A single encounter. Probably wasn't worth the effort to port the materials and retexture everything for the engine for a singular encounter.
The same can be said for the boss at the end of the Fade (and Imshael is a boss, too). And surely other "single encounters" I don't quite remember now (it's 2AM here, and my brain is quite addled).
But keep finding excuses instead of going for the most obvious answer, if you're happy with it.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 01:13
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Is this thread stupid ..... yep
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 01:16
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Is this thread stupid ..... yep
What did you expect with a thread title like that?
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 01:18
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pf, like I care about the utility of it...I mean, I don't even like bubbys 
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 01:24
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Desrire demons are about a controversial as sera's outfit. If such a complaint is true, then people realm do complain about everything.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 01:34
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They have naked girls on your equipment as well other statues around the place, titsicle jokes, openly gay characters and nudity (which also causes controversy) and there also no sloth or hunger demons so its not like they are the only demon missing.
Maybe they were cut for controversy but don't assume that. It could just be that they did not really fit with other demons pouring out of rifts and they have already done talking manipulate desire demons (which is what they are best at) more than once so envy and fear got a turn instead or maybe it's one of the many things that did not make the cut. They don't need to shoehorn the damn things in just because people think its a feminist conspiracy if they aren't there.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 02:17
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Desire demons didn't attract any sort of controvery that I can remember. Meanwhile, we also have the first actually naked sex scenes in a Bioware game since Mass Effect 1. So I'm not sure where the deal about Bioware being evil censoring puritans comes from.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 02:26
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I didn't notice the Desire Demons were missing until someone pointed them out. That's just how unimportant they really are in the gameplay.
Does a desire demon help you go back in time to stop the Elder One's plans?
No.
Does a desire demon affect the politics of Orlais?
No.
Does a desire demon help you get back your memories in the Fade?
No.
Does a desire demon stop you from bringing back Sir Woosley?
No.
So what the Johnny B.J. is the big deal about desire demons?
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 02:35
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No... no not everyone.
What's left?
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 02:39
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I didn't notice the Desire Demons were missing until someone pointed them out. That's just how unimportant they really are in the gameplay.
Does a desire demon help you go back in time to stop the Elder One's plans?
No.
Does a desire demon affect the politics of Orlais?
No.
Does a desire demon help you get back your memories in the Fade?
No.
Does a desire demon stop you from bringing back Sir Woosley?
No.
So what the Johnny B.J. is the big deal about desire demons?
Simply, the naked female form. It doesn't help that there are so many different religions in the world, because most if not all religions have it that men are more important than women, though they'll never admit it, but you can see it in their (religious) figures.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 03:00
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I still don't see the real reason why the Desire Demons had to be excluded from this game. i don't believe it has something to do with time constraints cause they had about 4 years when they were working on this game. Probably just wasn't worth the effort to port the model over for a single encounter? Only proves it's laziness on their part. 
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 03:07
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Did Gaxkang ever assume the desire demon form? I don't think it did, but I could be remembering wrong.
Not seeing any evidence of laziness.
Not seeing any evidence of laziness.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 03:12
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They have naked girls on your equipment as well other statues around the place, titsicle jokes, openly gay characters and nudity (which also causes controversy) and there also no sloth or hunger demons so its not like they are the only demon missing.
Maybe they were cut for controversy but don't assume that. It could just be that they did not really fit with other demons pouring out of rifts and they have already done talking manipulate desire demons (which is what they are best at) more than once so envy and fear got a turn instead or maybe it's one of the many things that did not make the cut. They don't need to shoehorn the damn things in just because people think its a feminist conspiracy if they aren't there.
Yes... they did... and funnily enough, it created a shitstorm. (See loony bin feedback subforum).
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 03:15
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Did Gaxkang ever assume the desire demon form? I don't think it did, but I could be remembering wrong.
Not seeing any evidence of laziness.
Gaxkang is male, and no, he only shifted between Arcane Horror and Revenant.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 03:16
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Did Gaxkang ever assume the desire demon form? I don't think it did, but I could be remembering wrong.
Not seeing any evidence of laziness.
Gaxkang took the form of an Arcane Horror/Revenant.
It seems reasonable that Desire Demons don't make a personal appearance since it's hardly their MO. Instead you see their subtle machinations like with Chateau d'Onterre, the mother who "fell" from the cliff and the man who fell in love with a desire demon and was killed by it.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 03:19
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I was still staring at those t!tties tho.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 03:21
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I still don't see the real reason why the Desire Demons had to be excluded from this game. i don't believe it has something to do with time constraints cause they had about 4 years when they were working on this game. Probably just wasn't worth the effort to port the model over for a single encounter? Only proves it's laziness on their part.
It's not laziness to waste manpower and money on something that many people won't even see and isn't a core part of the game.
I wish people would learn what laziness is before throwing it out there.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 04:18
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But Desire demons does make one, and tadaa! It's totally different than the DA:O and DA2' ones.
Oh, for...
Choice. Spirit.
Not a desire demon.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 04:22
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It's not laziness to waste manpower and money on something that many people won't even see and isn't a core part of the game.
I wish people would learn what laziness is before throwing it out there.
Laziness (also called indolence) is a disinclination to activity or exertion despite having the ability to do so. It is often used as a pejorative; related terms for a person seen to be lazy include couch potato, slacker, and bludger.
As i said, I still don't see the real reason why the Desire Demons had to be excluded from this game. It's bad enough that the Darkspawns have been reduced to just Hurlocks in this game.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 04:28
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So the forbidden one who insisted he was a choice spirit in spite of being a desire demon wasn't enough? I mean Desire demons have appeared more often than sloth demons have in the series and honestly I would have liked to go up against another like the one the warden and companions faced in the circle tower when it had become over run with demons and abominations...
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 04:29
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Laziness (also called indolence) is a disinclination to activity or exertion despite having the ability to do so. It is often used as a pejorative; related terms for a person seen to be lazy include couch potato, slacker, and bludger.
As i said, I still don't see the real reason why the Desire Demons had to be excluded from this game. It's bad enough that the Darkspawns have been reduced to just Hurlocks in this game.
There isn't any reason to have them in DAI. None of the plotlines necessitate the presence of Desire demons.
I mean, ignoring Imshael, who IS a Desire demon.
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Posté 01 mars 2015 - 04:33
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There isn't any reason to have them in DAI. None of the plotlines necessitate the presence of Desire demons.
I mean, ignoring Imshael, who IS a Desire demon.
This. Rather than a reason to exclude, I suspect it makes more sense to want a reason to include. Beyond, you know, t*tties and beer.
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There isn't any reason to have them in DAI. None of the plotlines necessitate the presence of Desire demons.
I mean, ignoring Imshael, who IS a Desire demon.
Doesn't mean that they should be excluded from this game. I mean, Imshael, who IS a Desire demon should have reverted back to his true from of that Desire Demon.
